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Nnamdi Asomugha was a 49er

  • Wodwo
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Originally posted by LieutKaffee:
Here's what I don't understand. We know Nmamdi was a no-risk signing and there are a lot of reasons he might not make the team (starting CBs already in place, no special teams ability, etc). But what if comes in and proves the PHI years were a fluke and he's a top-flight RCB??

Tarell Brown loses his job? Culliver or Rogers try FS? Who covers the slot?

Firstly, wait until after the draft. That might answer some questions.

Second, the best player will play. That's the point of the competition.

No point in throwing out wild guesses.
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Boldin's contract is up after this year. For now he is a one year rental.
I expect Fangio to see if Nnamdi is up to press-covering whoever is the opposition's tallest receiver. For example, I won't be surprised if Nnamdi is on Sidney Rice grabbing him at the line and just harassing the hell out of him on every play when they play the Seahawks. In fact, I won't be surprised if they try to do the same thing to Rice that the Hawks oversized corners do to our receivers - test the refs by grabbing and jabbing past the 5 yard line. It might be Harbaugh's plan to see if he can force the issue that way because he has complained that Sherman and Browner pretty much do it on every play as a coverage technique almost challenging the refs to call it on every play. If the refs call it on Nnamdi, it will set a precedent and they'll pretty much have to call it on Sherman. That's how I'm hoping they use Nnamdi.
Originally posted by Willisfn4life:
Boldin's contract is up after this year. For now he is a one year rental.

I believe Manningham's is also.
Originally posted by pwillis52beasty:
Nnamdi will be a top 5 cornerback this season. Book it.

Well.. I am not sure if Nnamdi will be weak for tackle? I just worried about it! I wanted Woodson sign for us. He can tackle and good defense too!
Originally posted by gold49digger:
Originally posted by matt49er:
Originally posted by Frisco69ers:
Boldin said he will sign an extension, and Manningham isn't going anywhere

when did he say that? would love to see it happen and give us some more cap $. we have to find more b4 we can sign our draft picks

I think he said he is open to signing one. But this could free up at least 3 million if he does

yeah I saw that in the Baltimore paper when he was first traded
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Originally posted by BuZzB28:
Originally posted by pwillis52beasty:
Nnamdi will be a top 5 cornerback this season. Book it.

Well.. I am not sure if Nnamdi will be weak for tackle? I just worried about it! I wanted Woodson sign for us. He can tackle and good defense too!
the woodson hoveround scooter has left the depot and it is not coming back, thank god. i am full confidence we will find someone who will fill that void and woodson will not, should not be on that list in my opinion
Originally posted by GNielsen:
I expect Fangio to see if Nnamdi is up to press-covering whoever is the opposition's tallest receiver. For example, I won't be surprised if Nnamdi is on Sidney Rice grabbing him at the line and just harassing the hell out of him on every play when they play the Seahawks. In fact, I won't be surprised if they try to do the same thing to Rice that the Hawks oversized corners do to our receivers - test the refs by grabbing and jabbing past the 5 yard line. It might be Harbaugh's plan to see if he can force the issue that way because he has complained that Sherman and Browner pretty much do it on every play as a coverage technique almost challenging the refs to call it on every play. If the refs call it on Nnamdi, it will set a precedent and they'll pretty much have to call it on Sherman. That's how I'm hoping they use Nnamdi.

Interesting take. This makes the signing even better. Now if we can draft Amerson and have Nnamdi mentor him our secondary will be one step closer to dominance.
Originally posted by cciowa:
Originally posted by BuZzB28:
Originally posted by pwillis52beasty:
Nnamdi will be a top 5 cornerback this season. Book it.

Well.. I am not sure if Nnamdi will be weak for tackle? I just worried about it! I wanted Woodson sign for us. He can tackle and good defense too!
the woodson hoveround scooter has left the depot and it is not coming back, thank god. i am full confidence we will find someone who will fill that void and woodson will not, should not be on that list in my opinion
Cyprien, Reid or Elam. One of those players is going to fill that gap. He'll be faster, he'll have better coverage skills than Goldson and, though he may not be a classic "enforcer", he'll be able to tackle. And don't worry about the fact that he'll be a rookie. I think Whitner usually relays the calls and makes sure everyone is in the right position anyway, so why worry? The way the NFL is evolving, a secondary needs to cover. Blasting receivers is quickly becoming a thing of the past.

Solid coverage and a good pass rush - no "enforcing".
Originally posted by gold49digger:
Originally posted by GNielsen:
I expect Fangio to see if Nnamdi is up to press-covering whoever is the opposition's tallest receiver. For example, I won't be surprised if Nnamdi is on Sidney Rice grabbing him at the line and just harassing the hell out of him on every play when they play the Seahawks. In fact, I won't be surprised if they try to do the same thing to Rice that the Hawks oversized corners do to our receivers - test the refs by grabbing and jabbing past the 5 yard line. It might be Harbaugh's plan to see if he can force the issue that way because he has complained that Sherman and Browner pretty much do it on every play as a coverage technique almost challenging the refs to call it on every play. If the refs call it on Nnamdi, it will set a precedent and they'll pretty much have to call it on Sherman. That's how I'm hoping they use Nnamdi.

Interesting take. This makes the signing even better. Now if we can draft Amerson and have Nnamdi mentor him our secondary will be one step closer to dominance.

This is just what I would like to see as a strategy. We all know Harbaugh has had a real problem with Browner and Sherman using illegal contact as a constant coverage strategy, the thinking being that if they just do it every play, they're daring the refs to call it every play, which the refs don't want to do, especially in Seattle. So, if Fangio has Nnamdi do the exact same thing, it might put the refs in an untenable position and if they call it on him, they'll have to call it on Sherman and Browner. And, if they start calling it on Sherman and Browner, you're going to see their effectiveness heavily drop off because they're too big to move with quicker cuts without using that tactic - that's why you hardly ever see corners their size. I'm hoping that we see Nnamdi locked up on Sidney Rice, who is their tallest receiver at 6'4". I'd like to see him grabbing Rice at the line and then progressively grabbing him farther and farther down field just to see if he can push the envelope the way Sherman and Browner do.

By the way, this all assumes that Harbaugh and Baalke won't get anywhere with their film of the tactic for the NFL during the off-season. It's always possible that Harbaugh WILL actually be able to make a case and the refs will start looking for it and call it to put an end to Sherman and Browner tactics right off the bat.
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Originally posted by GNielsen:
Originally posted by cciowa:
Originally posted by BuZzB28:
Originally posted by pwillis52beasty:
Nnamdi will be a top 5 cornerback this season. Book it.

Well.. I am not sure if Nnamdi will be weak for tackle? I just worried about it! I wanted Woodson sign for us. He can tackle and good defense too!
the woodson hoveround scooter has left the depot and it is not coming back, thank god. i am full confidence we will find someone who will fill that void and woodson will not, should not be on that list in my opinion
Cyprien, Reid or Elam. One of those players is going to fill that gap. He'll be faster, he'll have better coverage skills than Goldson and, though he may not be a classic "enforcer", he'll be able to tackle. And don't worry about the fact that he'll be a rookie. I think Whitner usually relays the calls and makes sure everyone is in the right position anyway, so why worry? The way the NFL is evolving, a secondary needs to cover. Blasting receivers is quickly becoming a thing of the past.

Solid coverage and a good pass rush - no "enforcing".
this times infinity there were a few of us who said from the beginning that we were not worried to start a rookie. Not to blast former players but i started to grow very tired of goldson blasting someone, diving in late, removing his helmet and other things that extended drives for the other team not to mention his inability to tackle someone straight up. whitner and a rookie will be just fine and we have more than enough respectable depth behind them that we will be just fine there
Originally posted by GNielsen:
This is just what I would like to see as a strategy. We all know Harbaugh has had a real problem with Browner and Sherman using illegal contact as a constant coverage strategy, the thinking being that if they just do it every play, they're daring the refs to call it every play, which the refs don't want to do, especially in Seattle. So, if Fangio has Nnamdi do the exact same thing, it might put the refs in an untenable position and if they call it on him, they'll have to call it on Sherman and Browner. And, if they start calling it on Sherman and Browner, you're going to see their effectiveness heavily drop off because they're too big to move with quicker cuts without using that tactic - that's why you hardly ever see corners their size. I'm hoping that we see Nnamdi locked up on Sidney Rice, who is their tallest receiver at 6'4". I'd like to see him grabbing Rice at the line and then progressively grabbing him farther and farther down field just to see if he can push the envelope the way Sherman and Browner do.

By the way, this all assumes that Harbaugh and Baalke won't get anywhere with their film of the tactic for the NFL during the off-season. It's always possible that Harbaugh WILL actually be able to make a case and the refs will start looking for it and call it to put an end to Sherman and Browner tactics right off the bat.

If this strategy works, then I don't see how the seahawks can beat us. With 2 physical receivers in crabtree and burners in williams,jenkins and manningham when he returns, how will they stop them without holding and being too physical. Plus with Nnamdi guarding their biggest receiver, terrell can focus on the slot or wherever Harvin will be while cully and rogers can focus on the other guys.

Nnamdi might have just won the west for us
Originally posted by LieutKaffee:
Here's what I don't understand. We know Nmamdi was a no-risk signing and there are a lot of reasons he might not make the team (starting CBs already in place, no special teams ability, etc). But what if comes in and proves the PHI years were a fluke and he's a top-flight RCB??

Tarell Brown loses his job? Culliver or Rogers try FS? Who covers the slot?

most of the time theres 3 WRs on the field anyway so having the top 3 corners play is not a problem. cully, brown. asomugha and rogers are all starting quality so i dont see how this is a problem. the best will play, simple as that. i think nnamdi gets into the top 3
Originally posted by hondakillerzx:
Originally posted by LieutKaffee:
Here's what I don't understand. We know Nmamdi was a no-risk signing and there are a lot of reasons he might not make the team (starting CBs already in place, no special teams ability, etc). But what if comes in and proves the PHI years were a fluke and he's a top-flight RCB??

Tarell Brown loses his job? Culliver or Rogers try FS? Who covers the slot?

most of the time theres 3 WRs on the field anyway so having the top 3 corners play is not a problem. cully, brown. asomugha and rogers are all starting quality so i dont see how this is a problem. the best will play, simple as that. i think nnamdi gets into the top 3

Nnamdi over Culliver please.
Originally posted by BuZzB28:
Originally posted by pwillis52beasty:
Nnamdi will be a top 5 cornerback this season. Book it.

Well.. I am not sure if Nnamdi will be weak for tackle? I just worried about it! I wanted Woodson sign for us. He can tackle and good defense too!

Buzz closing in on 2k posts! Definitely deserves its own thread.
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