Vincent Jackson is the missing piece for the 49ers

Originally posted by andes14:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
"06" is your parameter and guideline. Not mine.

As long as they have all been playing those guys are better. Don't care what years you are counting. "As long as they have all been playing and can be compared to eachohter." Is that easier for you?....

Sure but then don't respond to my statement saying Rodgers fits the critetia of the statement I made. Because he clearly doesn't. The bottom line is VJax has been catching passes since '06 from one of the top 3 or 4 QB's over THAT period of time and yet still hasn't put up SUPER good numbers.

He's not a top 3 - 4 QB over that time. He's less good than that. He's overrated. We agree to disagree.

Vincent Jackson has put up real good #'s. They also have Gates and Floyd. And for a while at least had LT and Michael Turner and Sproles. So they spread the ball around. Vincent Jackson could have put up bigger #'s. But he's just part of it over there. Not the whole thing.

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:

He's not a top 3 - 4 QB over that time. He's less good than that. He's overrated. We agree to disagree.

Vincent Jackson has put up real good #'s. They also have Gates and Floyd. And for a while at least had LT and Michael Turner and Sproles. So they spread the ball around. Vincent Jackson could have put up bigger #'s. But he's just part of it over there. Not the whole thing.

We agree to disagree only because you're including guys like Rodgers that don't even qualify. Answer me though, if the Panthers win the Super Bowl next year, are you gonna consider Newton a better NFL QB since '06 like you do with Rodgers?

Also, btw, I wouldn't be surprised if Rivers were the only QB in NFL history to win his division each of his 1st 4 years of starting (while also playing in at least the 2nd round in all 4 as well). I can't even think of another QB that's done so even his first 2 years of starting, let alone 4.

Originally posted by Fal_Mc11:
So back to the point...Jackson.

-Now that Routh is a chief, Bowe is going to tagged. (#1 WR projected on the market, my opinion of course!)
-Next Wallace is more than likely going to be tendered, let the bidding war begin (#2 WR on the market, not worth over paying and losing a 1st in the process)
-And then there was Jackson (#3 WR on the market, but first to really hit the open market)

He is going to be over valued and over paid by someone, but not us. He fits the scheme, better than the other two, but cost will make us look else where. Plus is there a question about his work ethic? Wasn't this guy holding out not to long ago? How old is he, 30?

We will pass, set it in stone. Second tier guy or guys will be brought in. GM likes hungry guys, team guys, and not selfish guys.

Frank Gore did the same thing, how selfish is he. VJax held out but came into camp and played the entire season without getting that new contract. How does that make him selfish.

Originally posted by andes14:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
He's not a top 3 - 4 QB over that time. He's less good than that. He's overrated. We agree to disagree.

Vincent Jackson has put up real good #'s. They also have Gates and Floyd. And for a while at least had LT and Michael Turner and Sproles. So they spread the ball around. Vincent Jackson could have put up bigger #'s. But he's just part of it over there. Not the whole thing.

We agree to disagree only because you're including guys like Rodgers that don't even qualify. Answer me though, if the Panthers win the Super Bowl next year, are you gonna consider Newton a better NFL QB since '06 like you do with Rodgers?

The Panthers won't win the Super Bowl. LOL.

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:

The Panthers won't win the Super Bowl. LOL.

I said IF. Answer the question. Ok fine, let's say Baltimore wins it. Flacco>Rivers since '06 in your eyes?

he's got something to say about that

Originally posted by andes14:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
The Panthers won't win the Super Bowl. LOL.

I said IF. Answer the question.

Won't happen. LOL....

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:

Won't happen. LOL....

Stop being like that and answer the question. The Panthers winning the SB next year wouldn't be the craziest thing in NFL history. Has no 6-10 team won the SB the next year? What was the Patriots' record the year before they won their first. Just answer the damn question. And if it HAS to be an upper echelon team, fine, if Baltimore wins it, is Flacco>Rivers since '06????? Man up and answer the damn question.

Originally posted by andes14:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Won't happen. LOL....

Stop being like that and answer the question. The Panthers winning the SB next year wouldn't be the craziest thing in NFL history. Has no 6-10 team won the SB the next year? What was the Patriots' record the year before they won their first. Just answer the damn question. And if it HAS to be an upper echelon team, fine, if Baltimore wins it, is Flacco>Rivers since '06????? Man up and answer the damn question.

lol and Kurt Thomas is the best power forward ever right andes?

Originally posted by DRnSFw:


he's got something to say about that

10 mill? lol

Originally posted by WillistheWall:

lol and Kurt Thomas is the best power forward ever right andes?

Ya because that's EXACTLY what I said, dick.

Originally posted by andes14:

Originally posted by WillistheWall:
lol and Kurt Thomas is the best power forward ever right andes?

Ya because that's EXACTLY what I said, dick.

PERSONAL ATTACKER NOOOOoo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Lets start a count down to getting warned, I'll start.1...2...3...2...1...0!

Originally posted by WillistheWall:

PERSONAL ATTACKER NOOOOoo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Lets start a count down to getting warned, I'll start.1...2...3...2...1...0!

Are you f**kin' 7?

Originally posted by andes14:

Originally posted by WillistheWall:
PERSONAL ATTACKER NOOOOoo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Lets start a count down to getting warned, I'll start.1...2...3...2...1...0!

Are you f**kin' 7?

Another attack, this dude is about to get banned

Originally posted by andes14:

Originally posted by WillistheWall:

lol and Kurt Thomas is the best power forward ever right andes?

Ya because that's EXACTLY what I said, dick.

See it.