Jaguars release David Garrard

Originally posted by unst4bl3:

Originally posted by sf49ersx11:

Washington Redskins and Seattle Seahawks are the two most likely teams to end up with the Top Pick in the NFC. The Cincinnati Bengals will finish last in their division and may possibly be in the running as well even though they have Andy Dalton and dropped a 2nd rounder on him. The Buffalo Bills and Miami Dolphins are dark horses in this matter as well. I doubt any AFC team finishes worse. So yeah your right but who knows maybe the Colts finish dead last....

Colts + kerry collins are good for at least 7 wins, with some luck they get 8. Plust their division minus the texans is just as bad as ours now.

Worst records this year imo.
1. bills- Even if Fitzpatrick does good, I don't think they can pass on luck.
2. bengals- They have Dalton, but same as the bills, can you really pass on luck when your qb situation isn't 100% set?
3. broncos- Have orton, and tebow, and will prob not be looking for a qb.
4. Dolphins- Will probably go for luck if available, but I don't see them jumping up.
5. Panthers- Got scam newton.
6. Redskins- Maybe
7. Seahawks- After tjax flames out, they will def want luck or barkley.

So I'm hoping someone else grabs luck, (please redskins) but I feel he will end up in our division.

Especially with the new rookie salary caps limiting the 1st round contracts, there will be MUCH less of a barrier or issue picking the same positions in back to back years with your 1st rounder.

Originally posted by OnTheClock:
Especially with the new rookie salary caps limiting the 1st round contracts, there will be MUCH less of a barrier or issue picking the same positions in back to back years with your 1st rounder.

Good point, so teams may not feel the need to trade their pick.

Originally posted by OnTheClock:

Originally posted by unst4bl3:

Originally posted by sf49ersx11:
Washington Redskins and Seattle Seahawks are the two most likely teams to end up with the Top Pick in the NFC. The Cincinnati Bengals will finish last in their division and may possibly be in the running as well even though they have Andy Dalton and dropped a 2nd rounder on him. The Buffalo Bills and Miami Dolphins are dark horses in this matter as well. I doubt any AFC team finishes worse. So yeah your right but who knows maybe the Colts finish dead last....

Colts + kerry collins are good for at least 7 wins, with some luck they get 8. Plust their division minus the texans is just as bad as ours now.

Worst records this year imo.
1. bills- Even if Fitzpatrick does good, I don't think they can pass on luck.
2. bengals- They have Dalton, but same as the bills, can you really pass on luck when your qb situation isn't 100% set?
3. broncos- Have orton, and tebow, and will prob not be looking for a qb.
4. Dolphins- Will probably go for luck if available, but I don't see them jumping up.
5. Panthers- Got scam newton.
6. Redskins- Maybe
7. Seahawks- After tjax flames out, they will def want luck or barkley.

So I'm hoping someone else grabs luck, (please redskins) but I feel he will end up in our division.

Especially with the new rookie salary caps limiting the 1st round contracts, there will be MUCH less of a barrier or issue picking the same positions in back to back years with your 1st rounder.

Still $25+ mil guaranteed to the same position (it will be more than 25 next year since Newton got 25 this year) back-to-back years would be a lot.

Originally posted by unst4bl3:

Originally posted by sf49ersx11:
Washington Redskins and Seattle Seahawks are the two most likely teams to end up with the Top Pick in the NFC. The Cincinnati Bengals will finish last in their division and may possibly be in the running as well even though they have Andy Dalton and dropped a 2nd rounder on him. The Buffalo Bills and Miami Dolphins are dark horses in this matter as well. I doubt any AFC team finishes worse. So yeah your right but who knows maybe the Colts finish dead last....

Colts + kerry collins are good for at least 7 wins, with some luck they get 8. Plust their division minus the texans is just as bad as ours now.

Worst records this year imo.
1. bills- Even if Fitzpatrick does good, I don't think they can pass on luck.
2. bengals- They have Dalton, but same as the bills, can you really pass on luck when your qb situation isn't 100% set?
3. broncos- Have orton, and tebow, and will prob not be looking for a qb.
4. Dolphins- Will probably go for luck if available, but I don't see them jumping up.
5. Panthers- Got scam newton.
6. Redskins- Maybe
7. Seahawks- After tjax flames out, they will def want luck or barkley.

So I'm hoping someone else grabs luck, (please redskins) but I feel he will end up in our division.

1. I have a little faith in Fitzpatrick. 3k Yards passing 23td's 81.8 QB rating. Fitz is a good enough QB to get them AT LEAST 5 to 6 wins.
2. Bengals could stink it up this year as they usually do. Andy Dalton = Jimmy Clausen 2.0? Likely a Top 3 Worse team. (Palmer get your ass back to work!)
3. Broncos clearly want a fresh start and didn't Harbaugh pass up the Broncos? I bet they wouldn't think twice on Andrew Luck.
4. Dolphins could flat out suck this year or could flat out surprise I never know with this team.
5. Panthers = No Way.
6. Rex Grosman and John Beck No maybe's here Luck will be a clear cut selection if the opportunity presents itself.
7. I hope the Seahawks throw in Whitehurst sooner rather than later. Tavaris Jackson is absolute garbage!

Luck in Buffalo, he could be the next Jim Kelly

Still would like......

Originally posted by unst4bl3:
Colts + kerry collins are good for at least 7 wins, with some luck they get 8. Plust their division minus the texans is just as bad as ours now.

Worst records this year imo.
1. bills- Even if Fitzpatrick does good, I don't think they can pass on luck.
2. bengals- They have Dalton, but same as the bills, can you really pass on luck when your qb situation isn't 100% set?
3. broncos- Have orton, and tebow, and will prob not be looking for a qb.
4. Dolphins- Will probably go for luck if available, but I don't see them jumping up.
5. Panthers- Got scam newton.
6. Redskins- Maybe
7. Seahawks- After tjax flames out, they will def want luck or barkley.

So I'm hoping someone else grabs luck, (please redskins) but I feel he will end up in our division.

Cam Newton a scam??? Then what is Alex?

So I guess he'll be going over to Indy I take it.

Originally posted by susweel:
I'd take Garrard in a NY minute.

So you'd get ANOTHER mediocre quarterback to take over hmmmmmmmm........
Great plan

This was one of the dumbest moves I've EVER seen following sports.

Manning is out for the year, this division is wide open, and you cut your starting QB days before the opener to roll with one of these McCown jokers?

They waived the white flag before the season even started in the ONE YEAR where they actually may have done something.

Originally posted by unst4bl3:
Colts + kerry collins are good for at least 7 wins, with some luck they get 8. Plust their division minus the texans is just as bad as ours now.

Worst records this year imo.
1. bills- Even if Fitzpatrick does good, I don't think they can pass on luck.
2. bengals- They have Dalton, but same as the bills, can you really pass on luck when your qb situation isn't 100% set?
3. broncos- Have orton, and tebow, and will prob not be looking for a qb.
4. Dolphins- Will probably go for luck if available, but I don't see them jumping up.
5. Panthers- Got scam newton.
6. Redskins- Maybe
7. Seahawks- After tjax flames out, they will def want luck or barkley.

So I'm hoping someone else grabs luck, (please redskins) but I feel he will end up in our division.

First of all: If you got the 1st ovr, sth went extremely wrong. And if you have a shot on Luck, you go for him unless you have a franchise QB for years.

Bills: Don't see them being 1st ovr. No, not b/c they blowout KC yesterday. They already have a very good defense which will prevent them from losing that much. A qb is a possible option for them anyway.

Bengals: I dont think that they are THAT bad.

Broncos: Could happen. No, sorry it will happen. B/c if they suck, that means that neither Orton nor Tebow is a help. New regimes mean new QBs usually.

Phins: They will go for a new QB and I dont think that they have to jump up that much. That will be a bad season for them imo. Top3-pick.

Panthers: If Newton doesnt break down, they won't go for Luck. Trade-down and scoop up some d-guys and perhaps a new WR instead.

Skins: Very possible imo. I think that Luck has all the tools for Shanahan's Offense, strong arm and enough athleticism.

Seachickens: Book it.

Teams which you didnt mention: Chiefs (Cassel is limited), Cardinals (unless Kolb has a breakout-season), Colts (obvious, I think), Raiders (obvious as well), Titans (I like Locker but the staff must be convinced about him).

One more: We have a Rookie salary cap that means there is one barrier less to jump up. Whoever lands the 1st ovr but has his franchise QB, will get a Julio Jones squared deal.

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
This was one of the dumbest moves I've EVER seen following sports.

Manning is out for the year, this division is wide open, and you cut your starting QB days before the opener to roll with one of these McCown jokers?

They waived the white flag before the season even started in the ONE YEAR where they actually may have done something.

Thought the same at the first moment. But you should read my citation in the Garrard-Thread which came from a Jags-fan. Then you will know why Garrard was really cut.

The agent for free-agent QB David Garrard(Jaguars), Albert Irby, said his client wants to sign with a team that he can help lead to a championship, not simply be a short-term fix. "We're not interested in being a temporary fix," Irby said. "Dave wants to go somewhere where eventually he can help the team win a championship. Although there are some temporary jobs out there, it's not that we're saying absolutely no. We would rather just go to one more organization and call it a day." Irby said five teams called in the 24 hours after Garrard's release and he's fielded a few more calls since then.

I'm calling Bengals on this one

i'm ready for this Garrad saga to just be over with. Pick a team already man

Originally posted by matt49er:
i'm ready for this Garrad saga to just be over with. Pick a team already man

seriously