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Originally posted by valrod33:
Originally posted by D_Niner:
Originally posted by hondakillerzx:
Originally posted by Otter:
Originally posted by valrod33:
I think the best move for him is to actually sign with a team like the Patriots or Colts, he still young enough to sit back a few years and learn behind those 2 dudes

That's probably the smart play for him. With the right structure he could probably play effectively. But he seems to lack that confidence, borderline arrogance, it takes to be a QB.

i think that comes from being beaten to a pulp and blamed for everything for 6 years here. probably be best for him to move on but in a shortened offseason he'll probably sign here for a year.

That's what really scares me. Alex is know for poor performance when he doesn't know the system/learning a new system. With a shortened off season, he'll probably be no better than a rookie or even David Carr...

His upside is still better than Carr but if it takes a full season to start to realize that upside, we've waisted another year on this kid. Add in that it's more than likely we draft a QB to develop into next years starter, and the Alex Smith scenario makes less sense... If we're looking for a 1 year stop gap QB, go after Bulger, Hasselbeck, or even McNabb (any QB with proven West Coast ability and system knowledge).

Alex just doesn't make sense as a 1 year stop gap QB in a West Coast O...

Alex played in the West Coast System his rookie year, we drafted him to be a West Coast QB, obviously he didnt perform well in that offense(1 TD, 11 INTs) but the point im making is he knows the system or at least he knows the principles of it. So it wont be like he is learning a completely new system.

Im not saying Alex is the future, that ship has sailed but in the current situation we are in he makes the most sense.

Sign Alex, Sign Bulger or Hasselbeck and draft 2 rookies. Let the 2 vets compete for the starting job, have the best rookie as 3rd and keep the other on the Practice squad

this is all overblown, he was a 20-year old rookie in A HORRIBLE PATHETIC TEAM.

How he performed THAT season tells me absolutely nothing about how he will be able to perform in a WC system, just my .02
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Originally posted by vrabbit:
Originally posted by valrod33:
Originally posted by D_Niner:
Originally posted by hondakillerzx:
Originally posted by Otter:
Originally posted by valrod33:
I think the best move for him is to actually sign with a team like the Patriots or Colts, he still young enough to sit back a few years and learn behind those 2 dudes

That's probably the smart play for him. With the right structure he could probably play effectively. But he seems to lack that confidence, borderline arrogance, it takes to be a QB.

i think that comes from being beaten to a pulp and blamed for everything for 6 years here. probably be best for him to move on but in a shortened offseason he'll probably sign here for a year.

That's what really scares me. Alex is know for poor performance when he doesn't know the system/learning a new system. With a shortened off season, he'll probably be no better than a rookie or even David Carr...

His upside is still better than Carr but if it takes a full season to start to realize that upside, we've waisted another year on this kid. Add in that it's more than likely we draft a QB to develop into next years starter, and the Alex Smith scenario makes less sense... If we're looking for a 1 year stop gap QB, go after Bulger, Hasselbeck, or even McNabb (any QB with proven West Coast ability and system knowledge).

Alex just doesn't make sense as a 1 year stop gap QB in a West Coast O...

Alex played in the West Coast System his rookie year, we drafted him to be a West Coast QB, obviously he didnt perform well in that offense(1 TD, 11 INTs) but the point im making is he knows the system or at least he knows the principles of it. So it wont be like he is learning a completely new system.

Im not saying Alex is the future, that ship has sailed but in the current situation we are in he makes the most sense.

Sign Alex, Sign Bulger or Hasselbeck and draft 2 rookies. Let the 2 vets compete for the starting job, have the best rookie as 3rd and keep the other on the Practice squad

this is all overblown, he was a 20-year old rookie in A HORRIBLE PATHETIC TEAM.

How he performed THAT season tells me absolutely nothing about how he will be able to perform in a WC system, just my .02

I agree with you, i just wanted to put that in there so it didnt seem like i was saying Alex knows the WCO like the back of his tiny hands. I think Harbaugh can get the most out of Alex but it shouldnt be for more than 1 year. Bridge the gap to our Rookie QB
Originally posted by valrod33:
Originally posted by vrabbit:
Originally posted by valrod33:
Originally posted by D_Niner:
Originally posted by hondakillerzx:
Originally posted by Otter:
Originally posted by valrod33:
I think the best move for him is to actually sign with a team like the Patriots or Colts, he still young enough to sit back a few years and learn behind those 2 dudes

That's probably the smart play for him. With the right structure he could probably play effectively. But he seems to lack that confidence, borderline arrogance, it takes to be a QB.

i think that comes from being beaten to a pulp and blamed for everything for 6 years here. probably be best for him to move on but in a shortened offseason he'll probably sign here for a year.

That's what really scares me. Alex is know for poor performance when he doesn't know the system/learning a new system. With a shortened off season, he'll probably be no better than a rookie or even David Carr...

His upside is still better than Carr but if it takes a full season to start to realize that upside, we've waisted another year on this kid. Add in that it's more than likely we draft a QB to develop into next years starter, and the Alex Smith scenario makes less sense... If we're looking for a 1 year stop gap QB, go after Bulger, Hasselbeck, or even McNabb (any QB with proven West Coast ability and system knowledge).

Alex just doesn't make sense as a 1 year stop gap QB in a West Coast O...

Alex played in the West Coast System his rookie year, we drafted him to be a West Coast QB, obviously he didnt perform well in that offense(1 TD, 11 INTs) but the point im making is he knows the system or at least he knows the principles of it. So it wont be like he is learning a completely new system.

Im not saying Alex is the future, that ship has sailed but in the current situation we are in he makes the most sense.

Sign Alex, Sign Bulger or Hasselbeck and draft 2 rookies. Let the 2 vets compete for the starting job, have the best rookie as 3rd and keep the other on the Practice squad

this is all overblown, he was a 20-year old rookie in A HORRIBLE PATHETIC TEAM.

How he performed THAT season tells me absolutely nothing about how he will be able to perform in a WC system, just my .02

I agree with you, i just wanted to put that in there so it didnt seem like i was saying Alex knows the WCO like the back of his tiny hands. I think Harbaugh can get the most out of Alex but it shouldnt be for more than 1 year. Bridge the gap to our Rookie QB

http://49ers.pressdemocrat.com/2011/04/inside-the-49ers/tollner-alex-smith-close-to-becoming-a-championship-qb/

ted tolliner thinks alex can do well
Originally posted by valrod33:
Originally posted by D_Niner:
Originally posted by hondakillerzx:
Originally posted by Otter:
Originally posted by valrod33:
I think the best move for him is to actually sign with a team like the Patriots or Colts, he still young enough to sit back a few years and learn behind those 2 dudes

That's probably the smart play for him. With the right structure he could probably play effectively. But he seems to lack that confidence, borderline arrogance, it takes to be a QB.

i think that comes from being beaten to a pulp and blamed for everything for 6 years here. probably be best for him to move on but in a shortened offseason he'll probably sign here for a year.

That's what really scares me. Alex is know for poor performance when he doesn't know the system/learning a new system. With a shortened off season, he'll probably be no better than a rookie or even David Carr...

His upside is still better than Carr but if it takes a full season to start to realize that upside, we've waisted another year on this kid. Add in that it's more than likely we draft a QB to develop into next years starter, and the Alex Smith scenario makes less sense... If we're looking for a 1 year stop gap QB, go after Bulger, Hasselbeck, or even McNabb (any QB with proven West Coast ability and system knowledge).

Alex just doesn't make sense as a 1 year stop gap QB in a West Coast O...

Alex played in the West Coast System his rookie year, we drafted him to be a West Coast QB, obviously he didnt perform well in that offense(1 TD, 11 INTs) but the point im making is he knows the system or at least he knows the principles of it. So it wont be like he is learning a completely new system.

Im not saying Alex is the future, that ship has sailed but in the current situation we are in he makes the most sense.

Sign Alex, Sign Bulger or Hasselbeck and draft 2 rookies. Let the 2 vets compete for the starting job, have the best rookie as 3rd and keep the other on the Practice squad

That's why I said "any QB with proven West Coast ability and system knowledge". Alex test drove the West Coast O; but, was not able to have the slightest amount of success in it. In fact he was horrible at it. 51% completions, 11 Interceptions, and only 1 TD in the last and final game of the season (we all know the stats).

I'm not against the competition; but, if we get any other vet West Cost QB, I think the Niners should resend the offer immediately. I'd rather we find out what the rookies could do and get them reps in practice than have another QB competition where reps are split between only 2 players...
Originally posted by vrabbit:
Originally posted by valrod33:
Originally posted by D_Niner:
Originally posted by hondakillerzx:
Originally posted by Otter:
Originally posted by valrod33:
I think the best move for him is to actually sign with a team like the Patriots or Colts, he still young enough to sit back a few years and learn behind those 2 dudes

That's probably the smart play for him. With the right structure he could probably play effectively. But he seems to lack that confidence, borderline arrogance, it takes to be a QB.

i think that comes from being beaten to a pulp and blamed for everything for 6 years here. probably be best for him to move on but in a shortened offseason he'll probably sign here for a year.

That's what really scares me. Alex is know for poor performance when he doesn't know the system/learning a new system. With a shortened off season, he'll probably be no better than a rookie or even David Carr...

His upside is still better than Carr but if it takes a full season to start to realize that upside, we've waisted another year on this kid. Add in that it's more than likely we draft a QB to develop into next years starter, and the Alex Smith scenario makes less sense... If we're looking for a 1 year stop gap QB, go after Bulger, Hasselbeck, or even McNabb (any QB with proven West Coast ability and system knowledge).

Alex just doesn't make sense as a 1 year stop gap QB in a West Coast O...

Alex played in the West Coast System his rookie year, we drafted him to be a West Coast QB, obviously he didnt perform well in that offense(1 TD, 11 INTs) but the point im making is he knows the system or at least he knows the principles of it. So it wont be like he is learning a completely new system.

Im not saying Alex is the future, that ship has sailed but in the current situation we are in he makes the most sense.

Sign Alex, Sign Bulger or Hasselbeck and draft 2 rookies. Let the 2 vets compete for the starting job, have the best rookie as 3rd and keep the other on the Practice squad

this is all overblown, he was a 20-year old rookie in A HORRIBLE PATHETIC TEAM.

How he performed THAT season tells me absolutely nothing about how he will be able to perform in a WC system, just my .02

Whats overblown is the excuses he gets.

First year he gets a pass because he was 20 and we were bad.

Second year we get the "he showed improvement" excuse which somehow people believe to be true (no one could be worse than he was year 1, he had a few good games and was god awful the rest of the year).

Third year he was awful again but people point to his third coordinator and that he got hurt.

Fourth year he was hurt but people make up this excuse that Martz said he was good and was going to be his QB (complete and utter bs....Alex was slated to be the 2nd or 3rd string QB BEFORE his injury).

Fifth year he lost a QB battle to a journeyman QB and had a below average season when finally put in.

Sixth year he was hurt for part of the season and was awful in most of the games he played. Aside from a few good games, he was a bottom tier QB.

At what point are we just going to say this guy isnt any good? He has had some unfortunate circumstances yes. But good/great players can rise above circumstances at some point. Alex still hasnt. Its time to let this bust go.
Originally posted by 80sbaby24:
Originally posted by vrabbit:
Originally posted by valrod33:
Originally posted by D_Niner:
Originally posted by hondakillerzx:
Originally posted by Otter:
Originally posted by valrod33:
I think the best move for him is to actually sign with a team like the Patriots or Colts, he still young enough to sit back a few years and learn behind those 2 dudes

That's probably the smart play for him. With the right structure he could probably play effectively. But he seems to lack that confidence, borderline arrogance, it takes to be a QB.

i think that comes from being beaten to a pulp and blamed for everything for 6 years here. probably be best for him to move on but in a shortened offseason he'll probably sign here for a year.

That's what really scares me. Alex is know for poor performance when he doesn't know the system/learning a new system. With a shortened off season, he'll probably be no better than a rookie or even David Carr...

His upside is still better than Carr but if it takes a full season to start to realize that upside, we've waisted another year on this kid. Add in that it's more than likely we draft a QB to develop into next years starter, and the Alex Smith scenario makes less sense... If we're looking for a 1 year stop gap QB, go after Bulger, Hasselbeck, or even McNabb (any QB with proven West Coast ability and system knowledge).

Alex just doesn't make sense as a 1 year stop gap QB in a West Coast O...

Alex played in the West Coast System his rookie year, we drafted him to be a West Coast QB, obviously he didnt perform well in that offense(1 TD, 11 INTs) but the point im making is he knows the system or at least he knows the principles of it. So it wont be like he is learning a completely new system.

Im not saying Alex is the future, that ship has sailed but in the current situation we are in he makes the most sense.

Sign Alex, Sign Bulger or Hasselbeck and draft 2 rookies. Let the 2 vets compete for the starting job, have the best rookie as 3rd and keep the other on the Practice squad

this is all overblown, he was a 20-year old rookie in A HORRIBLE PATHETIC TEAM.

How he performed THAT season tells me absolutely nothing about how he will be able to perform in a WC system, just my .02

Whats overblown is the excuses he gets.

First year he gets a pass because he was 20 and we were bad.

Second year we get the "he showed improvement" excuse which somehow people believe to be true (no one could be worse than he was year 1, he had a few good games and was god awful the rest of the year).

Third year he was awful again but people point to his third coordinator and that he got hurt.

Fourth year he was hurt but people make up this excuse that Martz said he was good and was going to be his QB (complete and utter bs....Alex was slated to be the 2nd or 3rd string QB BEFORE his injury).

Fifth year he lost a QB battle to a journeyman QB and had a below average season when finally put in.

Sixth year he was hurt for part of the season and was awful in most of the games he played. Aside from a few good games, he was a bottom tier QB.

At what point are we just going to say this guy isnt any good? He has had some unfortunate circumstances yes. But good/great players can rise above circumstances at some point. Alex still hasnt. Its time to let this bust go.

Ted Tollner disagrees with you.
Originally posted by WillistheWall:
Originally posted by 80sbaby24:
Originally posted by vrabbit:
Originally posted by valrod33:
Originally posted by D_Niner:
Originally posted by hondakillerzx:
Originally posted by Otter:
Originally posted by valrod33:
I think the best move for him is to actually sign with a team like the Patriots or Colts, he still young enough to sit back a few years and learn behind those 2 dudes

That's probably the smart play for him. With the right structure he could probably play effectively. But he seems to lack that confidence, borderline arrogance, it takes to be a QB.

i think that comes from being beaten to a pulp and blamed for everything for 6 years here. probably be best for him to move on but in a shortened offseason he'll probably sign here for a year.

That's what really scares me. Alex is know for poor performance when he doesn't know the system/learning a new system. With a shortened off season, he'll probably be no better than a rookie or even David Carr...

His upside is still better than Carr but if it takes a full season to start to realize that upside, we've waisted another year on this kid. Add in that it's more than likely we draft a QB to develop into next years starter, and the Alex Smith scenario makes less sense... If we're looking for a 1 year stop gap QB, go after Bulger, Hasselbeck, or even McNabb (any QB with proven West Coast ability and system knowledge).

Alex just doesn't make sense as a 1 year stop gap QB in a West Coast O...

Alex played in the West Coast System his rookie year, we drafted him to be a West Coast QB, obviously he didnt perform well in that offense(1 TD, 11 INTs) but the point im making is he knows the system or at least he knows the principles of it. So it wont be like he is learning a completely new system.

Im not saying Alex is the future, that ship has sailed but in the current situation we are in he makes the most sense.

Sign Alex, Sign Bulger or Hasselbeck and draft 2 rookies. Let the 2 vets compete for the starting job, have the best rookie as 3rd and keep the other on the Practice squad

this is all overblown, he was a 20-year old rookie in A HORRIBLE PATHETIC TEAM.

How he performed THAT season tells me absolutely nothing about how he will be able to perform in a WC system, just my .02

Whats overblown is the excuses he gets.

First year he gets a pass because he was 20 and we were bad.

Second year we get the "he showed improvement" excuse which somehow people believe to be true (no one could be worse than he was year 1, he had a few good games and was god awful the rest of the year).

Third year he was awful again but people point to his third coordinator and that he got hurt.

Fourth year he was hurt but people make up this excuse that Martz said he was good and was going to be his QB (complete and utter bs....Alex was slated to be the 2nd or 3rd string QB BEFORE his injury).

Fifth year he lost a QB battle to a journeyman QB and had a below average season when finally put in.

Sixth year he was hurt for part of the season and was awful in most of the games he played. Aside from a few good games, he was a bottom tier QB.

At what point are we just going to say this guy isnt any good? He has had some unfortunate circumstances yes. But good/great players can rise above circumstances at some point. Alex still hasnt. Its time to let this bust go.

Ted Tollner disagrees with you.

Good for Ted Tollner. The fact that you and others are buying the crap that this guy is selling is a joke. Dude has been fired from every NFL job he has had in almost record time, and Niner fans HATED him when he was with us. Yet now that he praises Alex Smith and all of a sudden this guy knows what he is talking about. LOL.
Originally posted by 80sbaby24:
Originally posted by WillistheWall:
Originally posted by 80sbaby24:
Originally posted by vrabbit:
Originally posted by valrod33:
Originally posted by D_Niner:
Originally posted by hondakillerzx:
Originally posted by Otter:
Originally posted by valrod33:
I think the best move for him is to actually sign with a team like the Patriots or Colts, he still young enough to sit back a few years and learn behind those 2 dudes

That's probably the smart play for him. With the right structure he could probably play effectively. But he seems to lack that confidence, borderline arrogance, it takes to be a QB.

i think that comes from being beaten to a pulp and blamed for everything for 6 years here. probably be best for him to move on but in a shortened offseason he'll probably sign here for a year.

That's what really scares me. Alex is know for poor performance when he doesn't know the system/learning a new system. With a shortened off season, he'll probably be no better than a rookie or even David Carr...

His upside is still better than Carr but if it takes a full season to start to realize that upside, we've waisted another year on this kid. Add in that it's more than likely we draft a QB to develop into next years starter, and the Alex Smith scenario makes less sense... If we're looking for a 1 year stop gap QB, go after Bulger, Hasselbeck, or even McNabb (any QB with proven West Coast ability and system knowledge).

Alex just doesn't make sense as a 1 year stop gap QB in a West Coast O...

Alex played in the West Coast System his rookie year, we drafted him to be a West Coast QB, obviously he didnt perform well in that offense(1 TD, 11 INTs) but the point im making is he knows the system or at least he knows the principles of it. So it wont be like he is learning a completely new system.

Im not saying Alex is the future, that ship has sailed but in the current situation we are in he makes the most sense.

Sign Alex, Sign Bulger or Hasselbeck and draft 2 rookies. Let the 2 vets compete for the starting job, have the best rookie as 3rd and keep the other on the Practice squad

this is all overblown, he was a 20-year old rookie in A HORRIBLE PATHETIC TEAM.

How he performed THAT season tells me absolutely nothing about how he will be able to perform in a WC system, just my .02

Whats overblown is the excuses he gets.

First year he gets a pass because he was 20 and we were bad.

Second year we get the "he showed improvement" excuse which somehow people believe to be true (no one could be worse than he was year 1, he had a few good games and was god awful the rest of the year).

Third year he was awful again but people point to his third coordinator and that he got hurt.

Fourth year he was hurt but people make up this excuse that Martz said he was good and was going to be his QB (complete and utter bs....Alex was slated to be the 2nd or 3rd string QB BEFORE his injury).

Fifth year he lost a QB battle to a journeyman QB and had a below average season when finally put in.

Sixth year he was hurt for part of the season and was awful in most of the games he played. Aside from a few good games, he was a bottom tier QB.

At what point are we just going to say this guy isnt any good? He has had some unfortunate circumstances yes. But good/great players can rise above circumstances at some point. Alex still hasnt. Its time to let this bust go.

Ted Tollner disagrees with you.

Good for Ted Tollner. The fact that you and others are buying the crap that this guy is selling is a joke. Dude has been fired from every NFL job he has had in almost record time, and Niner fans HATED him when he was with us. Yet now that he praises Alex Smith and all of a sudden this guy knows what he is talking about. LOL.

norv turner prasises his as does harbaugh and gruden all are good qb gurus
Originally posted by 80sbaby24:
Originally posted by WillistheWall:
Originally posted by 80sbaby24:
Originally posted by vrabbit:
Originally posted by valrod33:
Originally posted by D_Niner:
Originally posted by hondakillerzx:
Originally posted by Otter:
Originally posted by valrod33:
I think the best move for him is to actually sign with a team like the Patriots or Colts, he still young enough to sit back a few years and learn behind those 2 dudes

That's probably the smart play for him. With the right structure he could probably play effectively. But he seems to lack that confidence, borderline arrogance, it takes to be a QB.

i think that comes from being beaten to a pulp and blamed for everything for 6 years here. probably be best for him to move on but in a shortened offseason he'll probably sign here for a year.

That's what really scares me. Alex is know for poor performance when he doesn't know the system/learning a new system. With a shortened off season, he'll probably be no better than a rookie or even David Carr...

His upside is still better than Carr but if it takes a full season to start to realize that upside, we've waisted another year on this kid. Add in that it's more than likely we draft a QB to develop into next years starter, and the Alex Smith scenario makes less sense... If we're looking for a 1 year stop gap QB, go after Bulger, Hasselbeck, or even McNabb (any QB with proven West Coast ability and system knowledge).

Alex just doesn't make sense as a 1 year stop gap QB in a West Coast O...

Alex played in the West Coast System his rookie year, we drafted him to be a West Coast QB, obviously he didnt perform well in that offense(1 TD, 11 INTs) but the point im making is he knows the system or at least he knows the principles of it. So it wont be like he is learning a completely new system.

Im not saying Alex is the future, that ship has sailed but in the current situation we are in he makes the most sense.

Sign Alex, Sign Bulger or Hasselbeck and draft 2 rookies. Let the 2 vets compete for the starting job, have the best rookie as 3rd and keep the other on the Practice squad

this is all overblown, he was a 20-year old rookie in A HORRIBLE PATHETIC TEAM.

How he performed THAT season tells me absolutely nothing about how he will be able to perform in a WC system, just my .02

Whats overblown is the excuses he gets.

First year he gets a pass because he was 20 and we were bad.

Second year we get the "he showed improvement" excuse which somehow people believe to be true (no one could be worse than he was year 1, he had a few good games and was god awful the rest of the year).

Third year he was awful again but people point to his third coordinator and that he got hurt.

Fourth year he was hurt but people make up this excuse that Martz said he was good and was going to be his QB (complete and utter bs....Alex was slated to be the 2nd or 3rd string QB BEFORE his injury).

Fifth year he lost a QB battle to a journeyman QB and had a below average season when finally put in.

Sixth year he was hurt for part of the season and was awful in most of the games he played. Aside from a few good games, he was a bottom tier QB.

At what point are we just going to say this guy isnt any good? He has had some unfortunate circumstances yes. But good/great players can rise above circumstances at some point. Alex still hasnt. Its time to let this bust go.

Ted Tollner disagrees with you.

Good for Ted Tollner. The fact that you and others are buying the crap that this guy is selling is a joke. Dude has been fired from every NFL job he has had in almost record time, and Niner fans HATED him when he was with us. Yet now that he praises Alex Smith and all of a sudden this guy knows what he is talking about. LOL.

He was hated by 9er fans? WTF??? When he came in as offensive "advisor" or whatever in 07 he actually made Hostler's system look decent. Then Martz was the QB coach and there wasnt really a problem with his performance. He got fired when Sing hired dumbass Raye and Raye brought in Mike Johnson. So WTF are you talking about?
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They seriously need to check Tollner for dementia.
Maybe hated was the wrong word....but he definitely wasnt LIKED. No one was complaining when we fired him. I didnt see people complaining when he was fired after 1-2 years from EVERY other NFL job he has ever had.

And as far as stating that people like him goes, how can you possibly just assume people are telling the truth? Harbaugh cant speak 100% truthfully about how he feels because he isnt just speaking for himself. He has the entire franchise to look out for. IF he felt Alex was the worst QB in NFL history, do you think he would say that publicly? Absolutely not. And Norv? You think Norv would throw a former player of his under the bus? Norv has coached good/great QBs in his NFL coaching career. He knows what a good QB is. Alex was a bottom tier QB when he played for Norv, so there is no way you can assume that Norv is being genuine when he says he likes him.

Like I have been saying, just because a coach/gm publicly says something positive about Alex doesnt mean he is being honest. These guys have hidden agendas and other things to look out for. I will trust what I have seen for 6 years with my own two eyes over something said by a former coach with other motives aside from being completely honest.
[ Edited by 80sbaby24 on Apr 22, 2011 at 12:41 PM ]
Originally posted by WillistheWall:

Ted Tollner disagrees with you.

Tollner use to praise Jamarcus Russell too...
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Originally posted by 80sbaby24:
Maybe hated was the wrong word....but he definitely wasnt LIKED. No one was complaining when we fired him. I didnt see people complaining when he was fired after 1-2 years from EVERY other NFL job he has ever had.

And as far as stating that people like him goes, how can you possibly just assume people are telling the truth? Harbaugh cant speak 100% truthfully about how he feels because he isnt just speaking for himself. He has the entire franchise to look out for. IF he felt Alex was the worst QB in NFL history, do you think he would say that publicly? Absolutely not. And Norv? You think Norv would throw a former player of his under the bus? Norv has coached good/great QBs in his NFL coaching career. He knows what a good QB is. Alex was a bottom tier QB when he played for Norv, so there is no way you can assume that Norv is being genuine when he says he likes him.

Like I have been saying, just because a coach/gm publicly says something positive about Alex doesnt mean he is being honest. These guys have hidden agendas and other things to look out for. I will trust what I have seen for 6 years with my own two eyes over something said by a former coach with other motives aside from being completely honest.

Yep. I would bet if the labor issue wasn't uncertain, Harbaugh wouldn't have been blowing so much smoke up AS's butt. It is need based praise.
my guess is alex gets a one year deal and loses qb battle to whomever he is against. Smith has lost QB battles to Rattay, Hill and O'Sullivan.
Originally posted by Jamespowers:
my guess is alex gets a one year deal and loses qb battle to whomever he is against. Smith has lost QB battles to Rattay, Hill and O'Sullivan.

Agreed. So seeing as how Harbaugh has repeatedly said we will have a QB competiton, why would we resign a QB that has lost every QB battle he has ever taken part in to far below average QBs?

Since we know there will be a competition and we know Alex will lose, why dont we save money and not sign him?

All of this seems so simple.
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