qb trades/fa in nfc west

Originally posted by Super5:

Originally posted by 49erRider:

Originally posted by Super5:

Originally posted by PatrickWillisHOF:

Originally posted by elguapo:
This is more important than anything to the niners. Right now even with alex smith we have the most talent and are the best team in our division on offense And defense.

With kolb palmer and mcnabb out there its going to be a lot harder to win the division with any of these qbs going to sea and ariz. Yes sea and ariz are horrible on d but if ariz gets any one of those qbs fitz and breaston and company are going to be a challenge again. Sea has hasslebeck but when he is done this year or the next....say if they get mcnabb or kolb or palmer we are going to have trouble beating them....especially at their home where we always struggle.

If ariz or sea get one of these qbs we are in some trouble although with a new offensive coach who is actually smart and our good d led by willis we should still win the division. This would make it all the more harder.
As far as the rams go.....bradford may become a good qb although he was rated behind smith and hasslebeck with a better ol and the shortest passing game i have seen in at least 20 years......im not worried about the rams. People seem to forget they just lost their best player on d and lond is their only player worth mentioning. Their offense has not one playmaker and their secondary has to be among the worst in the league now maybe the worst with their fs leaving. And yes jackson is a good rb but by no means a playmaker just a solid workhorse.

Just wanted to see what you thought about who may be getting what qbs and what are the niners chances if they do?

That is what everybody said last year. Alex Smith won't get it done. I dont care who the coach is; if you are not accurate, you will not succeed.

You should care because the new coach is Jim Harbaugh who has proven thus far he can develop QB's.Whichever QB he & Balke decide on,us fans should have some confidence he will know what he's doing

He's never developed an already-broken QB. Alex is already damaged goods. You can blame that on previous coaches or schemes or whatever. In the end, the only thing that matters is he's battered mentally.

knock knock,anybody home???

Well let's see.. You respond to someone who was talking about ALEX SMITH in his post, and you're gonna sit there and act like he is not included in "whichever QB?"

Please.

I am challenging your statement by saying it's unlikely Alex Smith can be fixed by Harbaugh, therefor your "whichever QB" statement is what's under fire. In other words, I agree with the previous poster who said he doesn't care who the coach is because ALEX SMITH cannot get it done.

Let me break it down further so you get it. You act like Harbaugh can fix any QB. I'm saying he can't fix Alex, therefor he cannot fix "whichever QB" they decide on. Get it? Let me know if you need further assistance.

It's funny that YOU fail to realize what's being said, but you have the nerve to ask ME if anybody's home? Ironic.

[ Edited by 49erRider on Mar 13, 2011 at 11:58:14 ]

Originally posted by 49erRider:

Originally posted by Super5:

Originally posted by 49erRider:

Originally posted by Super5:

Originally posted by PatrickWillisHOF:

Originally posted by elguapo:
This is more important than anything to the niners. Right now even with alex smith we have the most talent and are the best team in our division on offense And defense.

With kolb palmer and mcnabb out there its going to be a lot harder to win the division with any of these qbs going to sea and ariz. Yes sea and ariz are horrible on d but if ariz gets any one of those qbs fitz and breaston and company are going to be a challenge again. Sea has hasslebeck but when he is done this year or the next....say if they get mcnabb or kolb or palmer we are going to have trouble beating them....especially at their home where we always struggle.

If ariz or sea get one of these qbs we are in some trouble although with a new offensive coach who is actually smart and our good d led by willis we should still win the division. This would make it all the more harder.
As far as the rams go.....bradford may become a good qb although he was rated behind smith and hasslebeck with a better ol and the shortest passing game i have seen in at least 20 years......im not worried about the rams. People seem to forget they just lost their best player on d and lond is their only player worth mentioning. Their offense has not one playmaker and their secondary has to be among the worst in the league now maybe the worst with their fs leaving. And yes jackson is a good rb but by no means a playmaker just a solid workhorse.

Just wanted to see what you thought about who may be getting what qbs and what are the niners chances if they do?

That is what everybody said last year. Alex Smith won't get it done. I dont care who the coach is; if you are not accurate, you will not succeed.

You should care because the new coach is Jim Harbaugh who has proven thus far he can develop QB's.Whichever QB he & Balke decide on,us fans should have some confidence he will know what he's doing

He's never developed an already-broken QB. Alex is already damaged goods. You can blame that on previous coaches or schemes or whatever. In the end, the only thing that matters is he's battered mentally.

knock knock,anybody home???

Well let's see.. You respond to someone who was talking about ALEX SMITH in his post, and you're gonna sit there and act like he is not included in "whichever QB?"

Please.

I am challenging your statement by saying it's unlikely Alex Smith can be fixed by Harbaugh, therefor your "whichever QB" statement is what's under fire. In other words, I agree with the previous poster who said he doesn't care who the coach is because ALEX SMITH cannot get it done.

Let me break it down further so you get it. You act like Harbaugh can fix any QB. I'm saying he can't fix Alex, therefor he cannot fix "whichever QB" they decide on. Get it? Let me know if you need further assistance.

It's funny that YOU fail to realize what's being said, but you have the nerve to ask ME if anybody's home? Ironic.

I believe he's one of those "harbaugh iz god he cans fix anyones" fans. Hasn't coached a game but he's already brought back the walsh era to us apparently.

What about Hassleback for 2 years? I mean he be a much better stop gap then Alex would and has actually won in this league..

Originally posted by fakers23:
What about Hassleback for 2 years? I mean he be a much better stop gap then Alex would and has actually won in this league..

Hasslebeck was a product of mike Holmgren's system....He wouldn't have done sh*t without him. At this point in their careers, even the Bust man is a better player than closet homosexual Hasslebeck.

Originally posted by fakers23:
What about Hassleback for 2 years? I mean he be a much better stop gap then Alex would and has actually won in this league..

take a look at his stats the past 3 years before u want to sign him for 2 more years, i'm not an alex guy but his stats have been better than hasselbecks lately

Unless trades and cba is done the niners are looking for the best qb in freeagency. Currently thats alex smith!

Originally posted by TheGoldDiggerrrr:
Unless trades and cba is done the niners are looking for the best qb in freeagency. Currently thats alex smith!

Alex Smith has never been the best at anything other than losing.

Originally posted by bigmike55:

Originally posted by TheGoldDiggerrrr:
Unless trades and cba is done the niners are looking for the best qb in freeagency. Currently thats alex smith!

Alex Smith has never been the best at anything other than losing.

Agreed.. A least with Bulger,Palmer,or Hassleback... You know your still in the game if down 7 points.. With Alex if your down 7 the game is over. lol

Originally posted by 80sbaby24:

Originally posted by bigmike55:

Originally posted by elguapo:
This is more important than anything to the niners. Right now even with alex smith we have the most talent and are the best team in our division on offense And defense.

With kolb palmer and mcnabb out there its going to be a lot harder to win the division with any of these qbs going to sea and ariz. Yes sea and ariz are horrible on d but if ariz gets any one of those qbs fitz and breaston and company are going to be a challenge again. Sea has hasslebeck but when he is done this year or the next....say if they get mcnabb or kolb or palmer we are going to have trouble beating them....especially at their home where we always struggle.

If ariz or sea get one of these qbs we are in some trouble although with a new offensive coach who is actually smart and our good d led by willis we should still win the division. This would make it all the more harder.
As far as the rams go.....bradford may become a good qb although he was rated behind smith and hasslebeck with a better ol and the shortest passing game i have seen in at least 20 years......im not worried about the rams. People seem to forget they just lost their best player on d and lond is their only player worth mentioning. Their offense has not one playmaker and their secondary has to be among the worst in the league now maybe the worst with their fs leaving. And yes jackson is a good rb but by no means a playmaker just a solid workhorse.

Just wanted to see what you thought about who may be getting what qbs and what are the niners chances if they do?

Alex Smith starting at QB automatically makes us the 2nd worst or worst team in the NFC west. Bradford > hasselback > Alex smith > whoever the cardinals QB is. If the Cards manage to pick up a solid FA QB, we will have the worst QB in the NFC west, and bottom 5 starting QB in the entire league.

Quoted for truth.

Facts count!

[ Edited by solidg2000 on Mar 28, 2011 at 17:43:01 ]

Originally posted by solidg2000:

Originally posted by 80sbaby24:

Originally posted by bigmike55:

Originally posted by elguapo:
This is more important than anything to the niners. Right now even with alex smith we have the most talent and are the best team in our division on offense And defense.

With kolb palmer and mcnabb out there its going to be a lot harder to win the division with any of these qbs going to sea and ariz. Yes sea and ariz are horrible on d but if ariz gets any one of those qbs fitz and breaston and company are going to be a challenge again. Sea has hasslebeck but when he is done this year or the next....say if they get mcnabb or kolb or palmer we are going to have trouble beating them....especially at their home where we always struggle.

If ariz or sea get one of these qbs we are in some trouble although with a new offensive coach who is actually smart and our good d led by willis we should still win the division. This would make it all the more harder.
As far as the rams go.....bradford may become a good qb although he was rated behind smith and hasslebeck with a better ol and the shortest passing game i have seen in at least 20 years......im not worried about the rams. People seem to forget they just lost their best player on d and lond is their only player worth mentioning. Their offense has not one playmaker and their secondary has to be among the worst in the league now maybe the worst with their fs leaving. And yes jackson is a good rb but by no means a playmaker just a solid workhorse.

Just wanted to see what you thought about who may be getting what qbs and what are the niners chances if they do?

Alex Smith starting at QB automatically makes us the 2nd worst or worst team in the NFC west. Bradford > hasselback > Alex smith > whoever the cardinals QB is. If the Cards manage to pick up a solid FA QB, we will have the worst QB in the NFC west, and bottom 5 starting QB in the entire league.

Quoted for truth.

Facts count!

Stats don't mean anything if you can't win any games.

Mark Sanchez
Shaun Hill
Bret Favre
Chad Henne
Sam Bradford
Donovan McNabb
Matt Hasselbeck

Are all better QBs than Alex Smith, regardless of the stats.

Now on the other hand, Alex Smith fits right in with...

Derek Anderson
Jimmy Clausen
Ryan Fitzpatrick
Alex Smith

Thus making him a bottom 5 QB in the NFL.

Originally posted by dj43:

Originally posted by Snider8706:

Originally posted by LasVegasWally:
Is Pennington worth looking at and investing in. If yes, what would the cost be and how do you all feel he'll do?

Pennington is very accurate and could fit the WCO.....I loved him on the jets.

Last time he commented it was to say he felt it was time to retire due to multiple injuries to this throwing shoulder.

In his final games with Miami his velocity was noticeably down.

Not a reasonable answer.

He is a free agent and has said he planned on coming back for another season. In his final game with Miami - he only threw the ball what, once? He was hurt and out for the season in the first few minutes. Hardly much to judge his velocity by.

Regardless, I heard on the radio Saturday that Pennington tore his ACL in a pick-up basketball game. He's 34 now, and going to lose another seaon to injury? I'd say he's done.

Originally posted by bigmike55:

Originally posted by solidg2000:

Originally posted by 80sbaby24:

Originally posted by bigmike55:

Originally posted by elguapo:
This is more important than anything to the niners. Right now even with alex smith we have the most talent and are the best team in our division on offense And defense.

With kolb palmer and mcnabb out there its going to be a lot harder to win the division with any of these qbs going to sea and ariz. Yes sea and ariz are horrible on d but if ariz gets any one of those qbs fitz and breaston and company are going to be a challenge again. Sea has hasslebeck but when he is done this year or the next....say if they get mcnabb or kolb or palmer we are going to have trouble beating them....especially at their home where we always struggle.

If ariz or sea get one of these qbs we are in some trouble although with a new offensive coach who is actually smart and our good d led by willis we should still win the division. This would make it all the more harder.
As far as the rams go.....bradford may become a good qb although he was rated behind smith and hasslebeck with a better ol and the shortest passing game i have seen in at least 20 years......im not worried about the rams. People seem to forget they just lost their best player on d and lond is their only player worth mentioning. Their offense has not one playmaker and their secondary has to be among the worst in the league now maybe the worst with their fs leaving. And yes jackson is a good rb but by no means a playmaker just a solid workhorse.

Just wanted to see what you thought about who may be getting what qbs and what are the niners chances if they do?

Alex Smith starting at QB automatically makes us the 2nd worst or worst team in the NFC west. Bradford > hasselback > Alex smith > whoever the cardinals QB is. If the Cards manage to pick up a solid FA QB, we will have the worst QB in the NFC west, and bottom 5 starting QB in the entire league.

Quoted for truth.

Facts count!

Stats don't mean anything if you can't win any games.

Mark Sanchez
Shaun Hill
Bret Favre
Chad Henne
Sam Bradford
Donovan McNabb
Matt Hasselbeck

Are all better QBs than Alex Smith, regardless of the stats.

Now on the other hand, Alex Smith fits right in with...

Derek Anderson
Jimmy Clausen
Ryan Fitzpatrick
Alex Smith

Thus making him a bottom 5 QB in the NFL.

So then Dan Marino isn't one of the greatest QBs ever.
Got it

Originally posted by mjboot:

Originally posted by bigginz54:
I think the niners have the most to offer. we have a new offensive minded coach and VD and crabtree are pretty decent targets. I Think we could land one of the top FA qbs over the other NFC west teams based on that alone...... but what does this noob know....

Kolb is an average qb. He was mediocre in his starts with the eagles and with the niners ol and new offense worse. Don't thing harbow will trade a 2nd for him.

What about 2 7ths?