What Is the Niner's Strategy Re A. Franklin?

Originally posted by cwilson830:

Originally posted by DaDivaRecieva15:
food

You play NT for us, we give you 1,000,000

Originally posted by jimmy49erfan:

Originally posted by oldman9er:
Fine... this is not getting through, so I'll give up on it. As always, you will believe what you want and take nothing else in for consideration. No problem.

I just dont forget the past is all. So I cant really consider a player becoming something he never was before. Id rather lose Clements, Lawson and Goldson before Franklin. Hes just too important and 34 NTs are as rare players. Not every DT can play the nose as good as Franklin. Those that can are locked up long term by smart teams. Im just hoping this GM is smarter than the last and that York opens the checkbook.

Ummmmm, I agree that ICE was not very good when he played NT years ago, but he also wasn't very good at DE at that time, either. Some players just take longer to pick up the techniques form their coaches. Athletically, he is a bit of a freak, and he was initially moved to DE because he had the fastest get off of anyone on the line. He has become a very good DE in the 3-4, and his responsibilities there are not terribly dissimilar from what they would be at NT, in a primarily 1 gap scheme. I think Franklin is a fat kid at heart, just looking to get paid.

Originally posted by asyouwere:
theyll probably let him go to sign alex smith, and bring back rashaun woods.

thats false

I really think that losing Franklin is being overlooked by a lot of the posters. Having a good NT is essential to a 3-4 D. I think it's worth over paying him as it is not an easy position to fill. Maybe Soap would be good there and maybe even RJF. But those guys are unknowns and it just seems like it would be wiser to keep the guy we know can play well, even if it means over paying him.

Originally posted by The_Distort:
I really think that losing Franklin is being overlooked by a lot of the posters. Having a good NT is essential to a 3-4 D. I think it's worth over paying him as it is not an easy position to fill. Maybe Soap would be good there and maybe even RJF. But those guys are unknowns and it just seems like it would be wiser to keep the guy we know can play well, even if it means over paying him.

Not that simple anymore.

In order to sign him, you have to outbid all the other teams that want him.

If he's as important as you say, he will get a larger offer somewhere else.

Why? If the 49ers really wanted to keep him and overpay, they would have used the franchise tag again.

They didn't... so it seems logical to conclude that Franklin won't be back.

Such is life.

I think they are gonna let him walk.

Originally posted by susweel:
I think they are gonna let him walk.

Originally posted by Wodwo:

Originally posted by susweel:
I think they are gonna let him walk.

Seriously. No one is gonna outbid Dan the Fan once he decides he wants a player. If Franklin is really tops on the Redskins list, than he is going to be vastly overpaid.

Originally posted by WRATHman44:

Originally posted by Wodwo:

Originally posted by susweel:
I think they are gonna let him walk.

Seriously. No one is gonna outbid Dan the Fan once he decides he wants a player. If Franklin is really tops on the Redskins list, than he is going to be vastly overpaid.

thats right, we wont be able to outbid the man that gave Albert Haynesworth his big payday ...but losing Franklin wont hurt us as much as people think, we will find a decent NT in free agency to platoon at NT with Ice and RJF , I would rather see us Resign Ray Mac than break the bank for Franklin

Originally posted by oldman9er:

Quote:
Free agent NT Aubrayo Franklin is expected to be "at the very top" of the Redskins' offseason wish list.

Previous reports and speculation suggest the 49ers are prepared to move on without Franklin, and that he'll be "Priority A" for Washington. The Skins have more cap room than much of the league, and Franklin would be an immediate fix to last year's Albert Haynesworth disaster. As for Franklin's contract, our projection is $32 million over four seasons, with $15-17 million guaranteed.

http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/2231/player?r=1

Still want him?

The 1980's-90's 49ers probably would look to sign him back then... before the salary cap was created. You saw what happened to us when we paid out big, but then the cap reared its ugly head.

The article you quote says the Redskins are not that interested in Franklin if at all given the mistake they made on Albert Haynesworth.

http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/2231/player?r=1

If the 49ers are trying to get to the playoffs and Superbowl, you gotta have good players

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by jimmy49erfan:

Originally posted by oldman9er:
Fine... this is not getting through, so I'll give up on it. As always, you will believe what you want and take nothing else in for consideration. No problem.

I just dont forget the past is all. So I cant really consider a player becoming something he never was before. Id rather lose Clements, Lawson and Goldson before Franklin. Hes just too important and 34 NTs are as rare players. Not every DT can play the nose as good as Franklin. Those that can are locked up long term by smart teams. Im just hoping this GM is smarter than the last and that York opens the checkbook.

Your right, NT's are rare, but they also took time to learn the position too. So far the only one that comes to mind that stepped right in and dominated from the get go at the NT position has been Vince Wilfork. Since then no rookie or first time starter at the NT position has made quite the impact. Franklin wasn't who he was the first two years starting for us, either was Sione Pouha who filled in nicely for Kris Jenkins making him expendable, or even Paul Soliai. What I'm pretty much getting at is Sopoaga his first year starting at the NT wasn't anything of spectacular yes, but since then hes had to bounce back from NT to DE and only now has he been able to concentrate at one position, now hes being asked to move back inside again.

Now we all should know that a ILB assignments differ from a OLB's in a 3-4 correct?? Well the same goes for D-lineman in a 3-4, penetration is not always asked of them, but its a big plus if they do isn't it. Our D-line is a big part in why we were ranked in the top 15 or so in run defense and our staff has had more than enough time to replace Sopoaga, if he wasn't doing his job don't you think they would've replaced him by now??

Now I'm probably all over the place with the message I'm trying to get across. But in no way do I think Sopoaga is the answer, but only a very serviceable D-lineman that is the least of our worries on defense. Now if you wanna talk about how badly our Safeties have been out of position, now there's something that should be recognized.

So what you're saying is the 49ers should pay Franklin, correct?

Originally posted by MiamiNiner:

The article you quote says the Redskins are not that interested in Franklin if at all given the mistake they made on Albert Haynesworth.

Yes, it has apparently been updated to now say the Redskins interest is not what was previously speculated. Guess their "source" ( if they ever had one ) has been trumped. The whole article screamed of speculation from the start anyway... I just found the specific numbers for Franklin intriguing.

Keeping good players is important for success (of course), but at some point, there has to be considerations of how much a team is willing to overpay. (of course, again) If we could tender Franklin to a 1-year, 5 mil deal? I am feeling sure that we would... but we can't. We would have to lock him up to a long deal with lots of guaranteed money. Worth it? Perhaps... but I don't like that gamble.

Originally posted by oldman9er:

Originally posted by MiamiNiner:

The article you quote says the Redskins are not that interested in Franklin if at all given the mistake they made on Albert Haynesworth.

Yes, it has apparently been updated to now say the Redskins interest is not what was previously speculated. Guess their "source" ( if they ever had one ) has been trumped. The whole article screamed of speculation from the start anyway... I just found the specific numbers for Franklin intriguing.

Keeping good players is important for success (of course), but at some point, there has to be considerations of how much a team is willing to overpay. (of course, again) If we could tender Franklin to a 1-year, 5 mil deal? I am feeling sure that we would... but we can't. We would have to lock him up to a long deal with lots of guaranteed money. Worth it? Perhaps... but I don't like that gamble.

Way too much speculation. how do we know that the niner really dont want him considering we dont know the D?

NFL Network's Jason LaCanfora reports the Redskins plan to make a "splash" in free agency, targeting WR Santonio Holmes, OG Marshal Yanda, DE Cullen Jenkins, NT Kris Jenkins, and DT Barry Cofield.


http://www.rotoworld.com/headlines/nfl/206327/report-skins-plan-to-target-holmes-jenkins


So if the Skins target Jenkins, who does that leave as a major FA competitor?

Originally posted by gold49er2183:

Originally posted by jreff22:
there's no NFL who cares now

Soon child! REF stop scaring the f**king kids i swear to god my mother was right about you!