McNabb May Be Available After All.......

I like McNabb/Gruden as a building block. Draft a young WCO-style QB and have him sit just as Kevin Kolb did or as Matt Schaub did for Vick back in the day. Let the young guy take over in a few years after fully digesting the playbook.

Btw, before this year, McNabb had 3 excellent seasons (2007-2009) in a row, completing over 60% of his passes in all 3 years, averaging 21 TD passes to 9 INTs over that time, for an average passer rating of 90%. By any objective standards, that's pretty damn good....but hey, if people want to hate on McNabb for his production this season, and ignore the larger body of work (playoff/Super Bowl appearances, 6 pro bowls, lifetime 230 TDs to 115 INTs, and a career passer rating of 85.7 which places him 23rd all-time) it's their choice.

Offensively, the Redskins aren't really all that bad (16th overall in total offense). So maybe their 32-ranked defense has something to do with their 5-8 record.

Naw...it's all McNabb's fault!!!!!!

Originally posted by GhostofFredDean74:
I like McNabb/Gruden as a building block. Draft a young WCO-style QB and have him sit just as Kevin Kolb did or as Matt Schaub did for Vick back in the day. Let the young guy take over in a few years after fully digesting the playbook.

Btw, before this year, McNabb had 3 excellent seasons (2007-2009) in a row, completing over 60% of his passes in all 3 years, averaging 21 TD passes to 9 INTs over that time, for an average passer rating of 90%. By any objective standards, that's pretty damn good....but hey, if people want to hate on McNabb for his production this season, and ignore the larger body of work (playoff/Super Bowl appearances, 6 pro bowls, lifetime 230 TDs to 115 INTs, and a career passer rating of 85.7 which places him 23rd all-time) it's their choice.

Offensively, the Redskins aren't really all that bad (16th overall in total offense). So maybe their 32-ranked defense has something to do with their 5-8 record.

Naw...it's all McNabb's fault!!!!!!

Yeah I agree. There are a lot of things that go into being a good pro, especially at the QB position. McNabb seems like he would be a great guy for the right QB to learn from.

Also keep in mind, Warner looked like an absolute joke when he was with the Giants. But then he got another shot with a young Cards team that already had some play making receivers in place and all of a sudden he was as good as he'd ever been.

I think with the right team and right coaches McNabb could have another successful couple of years.

I'm all for getting McNabb just so long as that's not our only solution.

If we are able to get McNabb, but then Marty Morhingweg is also a logical choice at HC.

Originally posted by ZRF80:
Even though Donovan McNabb signed an extension with the Redskins earlier in the season, there is a clause in the contract that the Redskins can cut ties with him by season's end without any financial obligations. Mike Shanahan has hinted that Grossman may get a shot to play by season's end, and there are grumblings in the locker room that McNabb is getting a little antsy about his situation there.

Now I know Alex's fanboys will likely come out and claim that Alex is eons better than McNabb, and we're better off giving him a 6 year extension (thus making the 6 year plan into a 12 year one), but the reality is there is no quarterback on our roster that deserves to be a starter next season.

Assuming that Sing is gone and Gruden takes over, it would be great to get McNabb in here. Remember, Gruden revived the careers of Rich Gannon and Brad Johnson in both Oakland and TB, respectively. He knows how to play to quarterbacks strengths. In both Gannon and Johnson, Gruden had to put up with QBs that boasted weak arms and lack of mobility. Yet, both excelled under his offensive tutelage.

A McNabb/Gruden combo would keep us competitive in the NFC West for the next 2 aseasons (at least) until the "one" can be developed.

only if we dont have to trade anything away...

Originally posted by ZRF80:

Based on what ? Age ? McNabb's 34, Vick is 31. Stats ? This is McNabb's first bad year. He was a probowler last season.

I agree that we cant get a "career" out of McNabb, but its not out of the question to get at least 2-3 good years out of him ala Rich Gannon in Oakland.....

thats a very bad argument...mcnabb was decent, at best, against good teams last season.

Originally posted by GhostofFredDean74:
I like McNabb/Gruden as a building block. Draft a young WCO-style QB and have him sit just as Kevin Kolb did or as Matt Schaub did for Vick back in the day. Let the young guy take over in a few years after fully digesting the playbook.

Btw, before this year, McNabb had 3 excellent seasons (2007-2009) in a row, completing over 60% of his passes in all 3 years, averaging 21 TD passes to 9 INTs over that time, for an average passer rating of 90%. By any objective standards, that's pretty damn good....but hey, if people want to hate on McNabb for his production this season, and ignore the larger body of work (playoff/Super Bowl appearances, 6 pro bowls, lifetime 230 TDs to 115 INTs, and a career passer rating of 85.7 which places him 23rd all-time) it's their choice.

Offensively, the Redskins aren't really all that bad (16th overall in total offense). So maybe their 32-ranked defense has something to do with their 5-8 record.

Naw...it's all McNabb's fault!!!!!!

Exactly. What we need NOW is a bridge to the future. Clearly, the team will be blown up (at least offensively and coaching) this offseason......we can either go back to rebuild mode by drafting a bunch of youngsters, but that would be years wasted on guys like Willis and Gore who want to win NOW...........or you bridge to the future.

McNabb is having a bad year, but he is more than capable of keeping us competitive in the NFC West for another 2-3 years. If anyone can maximize his potential, it is Gruden.

Im amazed that even after going through the Alex Smith project, people have the audacity to call McNabb a "bad" quarterback that doesnt belong in a Niners uniform.

Originally posted by Otter:

Originally posted by ZRF80:

Originally posted by 49ersalldaway126:

Originally posted by ZRF80:

Originally posted by boast:

Originally posted by ZRF80:

Originally posted by boast:
are you serious? you want to bring in this no heart has been?

f**k Donovan McKchoke!

Yeah, yeah........f**k McChoke. Forget Vick the dog killer.

We dont need these guys.....we have all the talent we need on our roster.

15 INTS
10 FUMBLES
77.1 QB RATING


that's talent?

Michael Vick 2006

13 INTS
11 FUMBLES
73.1 QB RATING

Everyone's entitled to a bad season. Whats troubling is when it becomes a bad habit eg Alex Smith's career. McNabb has had a decent career with one bad year. Apparently, it didnt affect Vick, so why should we be concerned with McNabb ?

because mcnabb is on the downhill of his career vick is in his prime

Based on what ? Age ? McNabb's 34, Vick is 31. Stats ? This is McNabb's first bad year. He was a probowler last season.

I agree that we cant get a "career" out of McNabb, but its not out of the question to get at least 2-3 good years out of him ala Rich Gannon in Oakland.....

McNabb is awful. He would constantly bounce passes at receiver's feet. I have a few friends that are fans of the Eagles, and they weren't bothered by McNabb staying in the division.

Also, not counting this year because it isn't over and his rookie year, out of 10 seasons in Philly, McNabb played 16 games only 4 times. He's older now, can his body take a full season now when it seems he's had trouble with that when he was younger.

If he's not the most sacked qb in the league I'm sure he's in the top 3 most sacked and he's still playing every week.

I'd rather bring back Alex Smith than bring in McNabb. He is awful now. Forget about it.

I think the answer might be to go trade for Kolb. I doubt the Eagles will keep him as their backup long term.

Originally posted by Ninerjohn:
I'd rather bring back Alex Smith than bring in McNabb. He is awful now. Forget about it.

I think the answer might be to go trade for Kolb. I doubt the Eagles will keep him as their backup long term.

Honestly, for a one year stop-gap, I'd rather have McNabb, all things considered.

But that's like saying that you'd take a Pinto over a Yugo. Both are garbage.

Originally posted by Ninerjohn:
I'd rather bring back Alex Smith than bring in McNabb. He is awful now. Forget about it.

I think the answer might be to go trade for Kolb. I doubt the Eagles will keep him as their backup long term.

the cost for Kolb (1st &3rd) is way too much.

McNabb looked good in philly
Vick looks good in Philly
McNabb looks bad in Wash
Vick looks bad in ATL

Something makes me think its Reid thats making McNabb and Vick look good.

Originally posted by modninerfan:
McNabb looked good in philly
Vick looks good in Philly
McNabb looks bad in Wash
Vick looks bad in ATL

Something makes me think its Reid thats making McNabb and Vick look good.

Didn't Vick take the falcons to the NFC championship?

Originally posted by GhostofFredDean74:
I like McNabb/Gruden as a building block. Draft a young WCO-style QB and have him sit just as Kevin Kolb did or as Matt Schaub did for Vick back in the day. Let the young guy take over in a few years after fully digesting the playbook.

Btw, before this year, McNabb had 3 excellent seasons (2007-2009) in a row, completing over 60% of his passes in all 3 years, averaging 21 TD passes to 9 INTs over that time, for an average passer rating of 90%. By any objective standards, that's pretty damn good....but hey, if people want to hate on McNabb for his production this season, and ignore the larger body of work (playoff/Super Bowl appearances, 6 pro bowls, lifetime 230 TDs to 115 INTs, and a career passer rating of 85.7 which places him 23rd all-time) it's their choice.

Offensively, the Redskins aren't really all that bad (16th overall in total offense). So maybe their 32-ranked defense has something to do with their 5-8 record.

Naw...it's all McNabb's fault!!!!!!

McNabb in FA for 2 years and then draft Locker or Stanzi or Devlin in the 2nd/3rd?

McNabb has nothing around him in Washington. I'd be fine with him as the 9ers QB for a year or 2.

Originally posted by Willisfn4life:

Originally posted by modninerfan:
McNabb looked good in philly
Vick looks good in Philly
McNabb looks bad in Wash
Vick looks bad in ATL

Something makes me think its Reid thats making McNabb and Vick look good.

Didn't Vick take the falcons to the NFC championship?

yep and was beaten by McChoke