Should we have gone for Cassel or another QB

Originally posted by krizay:
trade for Kevin Kolb

im down for that

All these QB threads is funny!!!

What makes you think Cassel would have been better? He not necessarily making KC a better team?!

I DON'T CARE IF "GOD" IS BACK THERE....NO ONE WILL BE SUCCESSFUL BEHIND THIS OL PLAY.

I don't coaches need to step there game up or make some moves bc its a bit of both; player and coaching.

Originally posted by Esco:
Yeah because the Chiefs look so good right now

Cassel is not the whole team dude. Raye is calling plays that fit Hills potential which is not much. Put Ryan in our offense and we would look very different.

Originally posted by SybErkRimInAL:
i wanted cutler.

ME TO

Originally posted by English:

Originally posted by alpha81:
I think all we are missing is a good QB. Put Favre or Cassel in our offense and we would be good. Hill is not the future people please understand that.

And please understand that to say all we are missing is a good QB slightly misses the point that we have no O line.

True the o-line is leaky, but a QB with a better pocket presence than what have could still be moderately successful. I say give Davis some garbage time reps ( Like yesterday's 4th quarter ) and make an assessment of his future. If he doesn't progress than draft someone like Colt McCoy. Hill or Smith are obviously not the answer, but with basically a young team getting an aging veteran like Warner or Favre makes no sense. This team is more than one player away from a Super Bowl.

Its funny that nobody blames Hill. I know our o-line has not been great but when you hold the damn ball over 4 seconds you end up on your back on most teams. Its ovious how they are calling plays to fit Hill. There is a reason this dude did not have a snap in over 4 years. There is a reason he is called a "game manager". A back-up is a game manager...manages a game after a starter goes down. Think how a GOOD qb would look in our offense...think about it.

Originally posted by danimal:
I said with nothing but sincerity, we should have traded for Cutler..Or traded up for Sanchez.

I really hoped they would go after Cutler or look to trade-up to get Sanchez but the cost would have been awfully high. Just go back and look at what the Bears and Jets gave-up to see what the 49ers would have had to improve on to get either guy.

The reason why Warner was more attractive was because he could be acquired without having to give-up players or draft picks and because we would have been taking him from the Cardinals. To get Cutler or Sanchez, it would have taken players and draftpicks plus the money of redoing Cutler's contract or signing Sanchez to a top 2 or 3 QB draft pick contract. I would suggest that in light of Hill's finish last year, many 49er fans would have been against giving up the draft picks to get Cutler or having to sign Sanchez to a contract that would have been even larger than the one Alex Smith signed a in 2005.

We all know that his W-L record notwithstanding, Hill's upside is limited. Even the 49ers know it but he is the best QB on the roster, which is why he is and should be the starter. The real question is regardless of where this season takes the 49ers, will they want to hitch their future to Hill, Smith, Davis, a high draft pick QB or try to find an upgrade in free agency or through a trade.

My suspicion continues to be that the trade to acquire Carolina's 1st round pick for next year was done at least in part with an eye towards having the ammunition to trade up for a QB in next year's draft if necessary.

Originally posted by krizay:

Originally posted by SybErkRimInAL:
i wanted cutler.

me too man! me too!

What would we have given up?

cassel sucks. I knew he wasn't as good as everyone was hyping him up to be while covering for Brady. CUTLER FTW!!!!

Originally posted by kem99:

Originally posted by danimal:
I said with nothing but sincerity, we should have traded for Cutler..Or traded up for Sanchez.

I really hoped they would go after Cutler or look to trade-up to get Sanchez but the cost would have been awfully high. Just go back and look at what the Bears and Jets gave-up to see what the 49ers would have had to improve on to get either guy.

The reason why Warner was more attractive was because he could be acquired without having to give-up players or draft picks and because we would have been taking him from the Cardinals. To get Cutler or Sanchez, it would have taken players and draftpicks plus the money of redoing Cutler's contract or signing Sanchez to a top 2 or 3 QB draft pick contract. I would suggest that in light of Hill's finish last year, many 49er fans would have been against giving up the draft picks to get Cutler or having to sign Sanchez to a contract that would have been even larger than the one Alex Smith signed a in 2005.

We all know that his W-L record notwithstanding, Hill's upside is limited. Even the 49ers know it but he is the best QB on the roster, which is why he is and should be the starter. The real question is regardless of where this season takes the 49ers, will they want to hitch their future to Hill, Smith, Davis, a high draft pick QB or try to find an upgrade in free agency or through a trade.

My suspicion continues to be that the trade to acquire Carolina's 1st round pick for next year was done at least in part with an eye towards having the ammunition to trade up for a QB in next year's draft if necessary.

well next years draft scares the s**t out of me.....honestly I think "ONCE AGAIN" we missed the boat.

No cost would have been too high for Cutler, and for Sanchez well all draft picks are a gamble, and thats the guy I want to be gambling on

Originally posted by danimal:

Originally posted by kem99:

Originally posted by danimal:
I said with nothing but sincerity, we should have traded for Cutler..Or traded up for Sanchez.

I really hoped they would go after Cutler or look to trade-up to get Sanchez but the cost would have been awfully high. Just go back and look at what the Bears and Jets gave-up to see what the 49ers would have had to improve on to get either guy.

The reason why Warner was more attractive was because he could be acquired without having to give-up players or draft picks and because we would have been taking him from the Cardinals. To get Cutler or Sanchez, it would have taken players and draftpicks plus the money of redoing Cutler's contract or signing Sanchez to a top 2 or 3 QB draft pick contract. I would suggest that in light of Hill's finish last year, many 49er fans would have been against giving up the draft picks to get Cutler or having to sign Sanchez to a contract that would have been even larger than the one Alex Smith signed a in 2005.

We all know that his W-L record notwithstanding, Hill's upside is limited. Even the 49ers know it but he is the best QB on the roster, which is why he is and should be the starter. The real question is regardless of where this season takes the 49ers, will they want to hitch their future to Hill, Smith, Davis, a high draft pick QB or try to find an upgrade in free agency or through a trade.

My suspicion continues to be that the trade to acquire Carolina's 1st round pick for next year was done at least in part with an eye towards having the ammunition to trade up for a QB in next year's draft if necessary.

well next years draft scares the s**t out of me.....honestly I think "ONCE AGAIN" we missed the boat.

No cost would have been too high for Cutler, and for Sanchez well all draft picks are a gamble, and thats the guy I want to be gambling on

Both are fair but given that the 49ers might not have had a QB the Broncos liked, it might have taken something like this year's No. 1 and No. 2, next year's No. 1 and No. 3 and Hill. Again, I don't know but it would have had to blow the Broncos away given that they needed to get a QB back.

Originally posted by kem99:

Originally posted by danimal:

Originally posted by kem99:

Originally posted by danimal:
I said with nothing but sincerity, we should have traded for Cutler..Or traded up for Sanchez.

I really hoped they would go after Cutler or look to trade-up to get Sanchez but the cost would have been awfully high. Just go back and look at what the Bears and Jets gave-up to see what the 49ers would have had to improve on to get either guy.

The reason why Warner was more attractive was because he could be acquired without having to give-up players or draft picks and because we would have been taking him from the Cardinals. To get Cutler or Sanchez, it would have taken players and draftpicks plus the money of redoing Cutler's contract or signing Sanchez to a top 2 or 3 QB draft pick contract. I would suggest that in light of Hill's finish last year, many 49er fans would have been against giving up the draft picks to get Cutler or having to sign Sanchez to a contract that would have been even larger than the one Alex Smith signed a in 2005.

We all know that his W-L record notwithstanding, Hill's upside is limited. Even the 49ers know it but he is the best QB on the roster, which is why he is and should be the starter. The real question is regardless of where this season takes the 49ers, will they want to hitch their future to Hill, Smith, Davis, a high draft pick QB or try to find an upgrade in free agency or through a trade.

My suspicion continues to be that the trade to acquire Carolina's 1st round pick for next year was done at least in part with an eye towards having the ammunition to trade up for a QB in next year's draft if necessary.

well next years draft scares the s**t out of me.....honestly I think "ONCE AGAIN" we missed the boat.

No cost would have been too high for Cutler, and for Sanchez well all draft picks are a gamble, and thats the guy I want to be gambling on

Both are fair but given that the 49ers might not have had a QB the Broncos liked, it might have taken something like this year's No. 1 and No. 2, next year's No. 1 and No. 3 and Hill. Again, I don't know but it would have had to blow the Broncos away given that they needed to get a QB back.

you are totally right, we would have had to outbid the Bears with more picks. I just think that was the time to go out on a limb

Originally posted by fortyninerglory:

Originally posted by krizay:

Originally posted by SybErkRimInAL:
i wanted cutler.

me too man! me too!

What would we have given up?

I'm talking present and future. I know the question was past tense but..........


As for what would/will I give up? 1st and a 3rd.

Originally posted by SybErkRimInAL:
i wanted cutler.

Originally posted by krizay:

Originally posted by fortyninerglory:

Originally posted by krizay:

Originally posted by SybErkRimInAL:
i wanted cutler.

me too man! me too!

What would we have given up?

I'm talking present and future. I know the question was past tense but..........


As for what would/will I give up? 1st and a 3rd.

I think it would have took two 1sts, a 2nd and Hill.

Or three 1sts.(so no Crabtree and no 1sts next season)