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Week 1: Thoughts after rewatching the game...

Originally posted by Joecool:
The folks who don't take things too personal when it comes to comments on players already know this.

oldman, Aside from the TD drop by Marshal, Cutler sucked big balls last night. I was talking about Rodgers. Even when he has bad games, dude still looks pretty damn good.

BTW, any worries that we are peaking too soon? I believe in JH and his staple is focus and not looking too far ahead, but I will be a little uneasy that we may be peaking too soon.

If we had any coach other than Harbaugh maybe.
Originally posted by Joecool:
The folks who don't take things too personal when it comes to comments on players already know this.

oldman, Aside from the TD drop by Marshal, Cutler sucked big balls last night. I was talking about Rodgers. Even when he has bad games, dude still looks pretty damn good.

BTW, any worries that we are peaking too soon? I believe in JH and his staple is focus and not looking too far ahead, but I will be a little uneasy that we may be peaking too soon.

If you mean Rodgers looks good by his checkdowns and throws underneath to wide open targets for short gains? Yeah... he's been looking pretty good in bad games.

Nah... Harbaugh and Roman are gonna keep things fresh and keep opponents guessing. Peaking too soon? I think we will be able to sustain our peakage all the way through to ring # 6.
Bowman forced a fumble that Brooks recovered vs. GB?? When did this happen?

http://blogs.mercurynews.com/49ers/2012/09/14/bowmans-first-career-int-rogers-first-sack-just-start-of-other-firsts-left-to-conquer/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+49ersHotRead+%2849ers+Hot+Read%29

Oops nevermind, that was saying look for it to happen in the future lol
[ Edited by lordfangio on Sep 14, 2012 at 10:24:17 ]
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Originally posted by Joecool:
Originally posted by Memphis9er:
Originally posted by oldman9er:
Funny thing about this is... Marshall was wide open on two deep passes... but if Alex had thrown the exact passes on those plays as Jay did? Certain people ( YOU especially ) would be yelling, "Good quarterbacks put better ball placement on those passes. Why did Alex have to put so much on the passes? Marshall already has a crazy good wingspan... Alex just put the ball in tough spots where the WR had to make a spectacular catch.. when he could have just put better placement on those passes to make it easier for Marshall."

Where now you want to say for Cutler that the passes were awesomely placed balls. Even two-time ProBowl CB Eric Davis said this morning that both deep passes were "tough spots." So is Eric Davis wrong here? Or are you now learning that your bias against Alex is playing a large part in your assessments?

I have been assuming that Joe is just one of those guys that likes to get a rise outta folks. I don't think even he believes some of the stuff he posts.

The folks who don't take things too personal when it comes to comments on players already know this.

oldman, Aside from the TD drop by Marshal, Cutler sucked big balls last night. I was talking about Rodgers. Even when he has bad games, dude still looks pretty damn good.

BTW, any worries that we are peaking too soon? I believe in JH and his staple is focus and not looking too far ahead, but I will be a little uneasy that we may be peaking too soon.
after one game I find it hard to believe anyone can think we are peaking to soon. This is the same mind set from last year when some screamed that we have been exposed after we lost to the cards and ravens. I know i do not travel in same packs as some people but I just think we have began the year on a very high level and as long as we control the things we can control there is no reason why we can not continue this high level of play. Sure there will be some games where we get sloppy and we may struggle but i do not think its tragic and unlike last year I hope people do not over react when we lose one or two or three games
In the photo spread of GB/49ers, it was interesting to see how many pics of alex actually had him smiling as he was at the LOS. His 20/26 included 2 or 3 throwaways, and then there were the 3 Delanie drops. Against a super team like GB, that would have made me smile also...even if Raji was right in front of me and Clay was on the Lt side. I think the smile was because alex knew our coach had these guys bamboozled, and each play had a good shot at working.
Originally posted by Joecool:
You have to admit though, there some seriously awesomely placed balls he threw that were dropped.

I think teams are beginning to realize GB loves those deeper seam/slant/post routes. It's their favorite throw (splitting the FS and CB). They cover that well and it takes a lot away.

GB WRs dropping Balls isn't any different than what Alex Smith had to deal with the past 6 years (average WR crop with no true #1 WR over 1k yards). Remember Greg Jennings was out and he probably will not resign with packers after this season.

Like I said, since the 49ers exposed the packers' pass dominate offense by playing mostly dime and nickel, every other team facing the packers will do the same.
"You have to admit" the bears' defense got to rodgers and abused that weak o-line while they played great defense on the back end (which in turn cause alot of miss passes, dropped passes and 1 INT plus a few more that was dropped) that didn't happen for no reason LOL.
[ Edited by MrTruth on Sep 14, 2012 at 11:34:36 ]
Originally posted by NCommand:
But, but he's elite! LOL. He's lucky he didn't have 3 INT's this game (see Eli in the NFCCG). And then if you get to him, he's even more pedestrian. No doubt the QB is a product of his environment as much as he can affect his as well. But when many of the things in the environment are failing (see Alex Smith's career through 2010) such as the OL, running game, pass protection, WR's not on the same page, injuries, dropped passes, etc. its funny how all these elite QB's look...well, like how Alex Smith did (Eli, Brady, Rodgers, Brees, etc.).

Exactly LOL
Originally posted by MrTruth:
Originally posted by Joecool:
You have to admit though, there some seriously awesomely placed balls he threw that were dropped.

I think teams are beginning to realize GB loves those deeper seam/slant/post routes. It's their favorite throw (splitting the FS and CB). They cover that well and it takes a lot away.

GB WRs dropping Balls isn't any different than what Alex Smith had to deal with the past 6 years (average WR crop with no true #1 WR over 1k yards). Remember Greg Jennings was out and he probably will not resign with packers after this season.

Like I said, since the 49ers exposed the packers' pass dominate offense by playing mostly dime and nickel, every other team facing the packers will do the same.
"You have to admit" the bears' defense got to rodgers and abused that weak o-line while they played great defense on the back end (which in turn cause alot of miss passes, dropped passes and 1 INT plus a few more that was dropped) that didn't happen for no reason LOL.

I'm talking about the difficulty level of those throws. It's one thing dropping an easy open pass and it's another when that pass is threaded so tight that it barely grazes the perfectly positioned defender or splits the tight FS/CB window.

I'm not talking about the dropped passes. I'm talking about the actual throw.
Originally posted by Memphis9er:
Funny how that works huh? All those guys that thought Smith was the main problem look pretty ignorant now, some for some odd reason seem bitter that Smith is still improving his game

Those "fans" are the so called whiners that never understand football is a team game and good coaching improves success significantly in the NFL, both of which these Alex Smith whiner and the media fail to understand.
Originally posted by Joecool:
Originally posted by MrTruth:
Originally posted by Joecool:
You have to admit though, there some seriously awesomely placed balls he threw that were dropped.

I think teams are beginning to realize GB loves those deeper seam/slant/post routes. It's their favorite throw (splitting the FS and CB). They cover that well and it takes a lot away.

GB WRs dropping Balls isn't any different than what Alex Smith had to deal with the past 6 years (average WR crop with no true #1 WR over 1k yards). Remember Greg Jennings was out and he probably will not resign with packers after this season.

Like I said, since the 49ers exposed the packers' pass dominate offense by playing mostly dime and nickel, every other team facing the packers will do the same.
"You have to admit" the bears' defense got to rodgers and abused that weak o-line while they played great defense on the back end (which in turn cause alot of miss passes, dropped passes and 1 INT plus a few more that was dropped) that didn't happen for no reason LOL.

I'm talking about the difficulty level of those throws. It's one thing dropping an easy open pass and it's another when that pass is threaded so tight that it barely grazes the perfectly positioned defender or splits the tight FS/CB window.

I'm not talking about the dropped passes. I'm talking about the actual throw.

Right, rodgers is accurate (so does a lot of other NFL QBs in the league), he can run well for yards with his legs (so does a lot of other NFL QBs in the league) and he knows his packer WCO offense well (having to sit behind Favre and inheriting a good play-off team with a well established offense, unlike Alex Smith). But now without a good o-line, WRs getting wide open, stepping up and catching everything and the chance to run for yds. He isn't and don't look as elite as many people think he is.
i.e. Under adversity rodgers shows his true colors, his WRs isn't as open as they use to be, he doesn't have as much time as he use to have to, he can't scramble to get more time or yds with his leg, and ultimately he isn't as accurate as he use to look. He looks average like Alex Smith use to look with fail coaching and supporting cast (even though he still has the same great HC).
[ Edited by MrTruth on Sep 14, 2012 at 11:51:46 ]
Originally posted by MrTruth:
Originally posted by Joecool:
Originally posted by MrTruth:
Originally posted by Joecool:
You have to admit though, there some seriously awesomely placed balls he threw that were dropped.

I think teams are beginning to realize GB loves those deeper seam/slant/post routes. It's their favorite throw (splitting the FS and CB). They cover that well and it takes a lot away.

GB WRs dropping Balls isn't any different than what Alex Smith had to deal with the past 6 years (average WR crop with no true #1 WR over 1k yards). Remember Greg Jennings was out and he probably will not resign with packers after this season.

Like I said, since the 49ers exposed the packers' pass dominate offense by playing mostly dime and nickel, every other team facing the packers will do the same.
"You have to admit" the bears' defense got to rodgers and abused that weak o-line while they played great defense on the back end (which in turn cause alot of miss passes, dropped passes and 1 INT plus a few more that was dropped) that didn't happen for no reason LOL.

I'm talking about the difficulty level of those throws. It's one thing dropping an easy open pass and it's another when that pass is threaded so tight that it barely grazes the perfectly positioned defender or splits the tight FS/CB window.

I'm not talking about the dropped passes. I'm talking about the actual throw.

Right, rodgers is accurate, he can run well for yards with his legs and he knows his packer WCO offense well (having to sit behind Favre and inheriting a good play-off team with a well established offense, unlike Alex Smith). But now without a good o-line, WRs stepping up and catching everything and the chance to run for yds. He isn't and don't look as elite as many people think he is.
i.e. Under adversity rodgers shows his true colors, his WRs isn't as open as they use to be, he doesn't have as much time as he use to have to, he can't scramble to get more time or yds with his leg, and ultimately he isn't as accurate as he use to look. He looks average like Alex Smith use to look with fail coaching and supporting cast (even though he still has the same great HC).

Sorry, but Rodgers does look just as accurate as he did and if that were other QBs, they would probably do what Cutler did (throw INTs) or what Alex does (not throw it at all). The crappy play of the players around him did not keep him from accurately delivering the ball into tight windows. He didn't let that take his "trust" in himself away.

Try to separate the actual play around him from his pure responsibilities. He held up his part of the responsibility for the most part. He didn't get tight or lose confidence in his own raw ability. If he did, he would have never attempted that throw to Finley (known for drops) or Nelson.

There's a HUGE difference.
Originally posted by Joecool:
Sorry, but Rodgers does look just as accurate as he did
Who cares, the fartkers blow now and I LOVE IT!!! Fartgers will never again duplicate his stats last year, their o-line blows, their OC left for MIA, their #1 WR is out and will leave next season, their starting RB is someone they got off the street just before the season started (an obvious desperation move by the coaching staff to cover a weakness), they try to fix their defense but it still blows and they will probably still try to fix it next draft and as a result their offense will suffer MORE, on top of all of that the 49ers took it to the fartkers and everyone and their grand mom knows what to do on defense to stop or at least slow down the fartker offense now. They're NOT fooling anyone anymore LOL!!! I'll call it now, Fartgers will NOT be a packer by 2018, he will be traded by then cause he will blow more lol.

The time has run out for the fartkers and fartgers, IT'S THE 49er's TIME to SHINE
[ Edited by MrTruth on Sep 14, 2012 at 12:10:12 ]
Originally posted by pasodoc9er:
In the photo spread of GB/49ers, it was interesting to see how many pics of alex actually had him smiling as he was at the LOS. His 20/26 included 2 or 3 throwaways, and then there were the 3 Delanie drops. Against a super team like GB, that would have made me smile also...even if Raji was right in front of me and Clay was on the Lt side. I think the smile was because alex knew our coach had these guys bamboozled, and each play had a good shot at working.

Alex Smith looks like he's finally having some fun for the first time in his entire career. -He feels in complete control of himself, and his surroundings, total comfort zone.
Originally posted by SnakePlissken:
Originally posted by pasodoc9er:
In the photo spread of GB/49ers, it was interesting to see how many pics of alex actually had him smiling as he was at the LOS. His 20/26 included 2 or 3 throwaways, and then there were the 3 Delanie drops. Against a super team like GB, that would have made me smile also...even if Raji was right in front of me and Clay was on the Lt side. I think the smile was because alex knew our coach had these guys bamboozled, and each play had a good shot at working.

Alex Smith looks like he's finally having some fun for the first time in his entire career. -He feels in complete control of himself, and his surroundings, total comfort zone.

Don't get all honky dory ...Smith still takes too many hits and could get injured (rocky Bernard style)
Originally posted by SnakePlissken:
Originally posted by pasodoc9er:
In the photo spread of GB/49ers, it was interesting to see how many pics of alex actually had him smiling as he was at the LOS. His 20/26 included 2 or 3 throwaways, and then there were the 3 Delanie drops. Against a super team like GB, that would have made me smile also...even if Raji was right in front of me and Clay was on the Lt side. I think the smile was because alex knew our coach had these guys bamboozled, and each play had a good shot at working.

Alex Smith looks like he's finally having some fun for the first time in his entire career. -He feels in complete control of himself, and his surroundings, total comfort zone.

Was great to see and I did notice it throughout the game. Said it long before... Alex isn't the type of person to be dropping dead of high blood pressure. He's not tightly wrapped like that. He's more of an easy smile and relax player. Why? I think it is because despite his actions (hard work to always get better), he has lived enough to know that football isn't everything. He understands this and therefore can just go out and chill as he performs in games the way he practices throughout the week. So he doesn't feel that inner pressure of "OMGzzz.. it all comes down to this! My world all hangs on this possession!" .. because he knows it doesn't.