Something Is Missing......

Originally posted by 5280High:

Originally posted by NinerGM:

Originally posted by TonyStarks:
Peyton Manning and Drew Brees are once in an era QB's.

That being said, they aren't perfect. The last super bowl was won on onside kicks and defensive t.d.'s.

I would Peyton Manning is .... not sure about Brees yet. If anything Brees, like Montana may have found the best system with Peyton as coach. We will see if New Orleans can sustain that output. Time is always the test.

Manning and Brady are certainly once in an era QB's, Brees needs to do it consistently for more than just two years to show he is more than the next Rich Gannon with Raiders, Trent Green with the Chiefs or Kurt Warner with the Rams/Cards (though you can make the argument that Warner is a HOF). Brees seems like a good guy so I'm rootin for him, but not penciling him in as a sure fire hall of famer just yet.

And I think I know what's missing... Optimism Hopefully this season will answer everyones questions.

I was a doubter of K. Warner when he was with the Rams, but after he managed to revive his career with the Cardinals, and played the key role in bringing them to the SB, I think the guy will have as a good shot at a HOF spot as any QB out there. The number of QBs who had brought more than one team to the SBs could be counted with just a few fingers. Even the great Montana could not take the Chiefs to the SB.

Brees will need one or two more great seasons to be a shoo-in for the HOF. Before 2009, he was just a slightly better Matt Schaub.

Manning will be voted in as soon as his 5 years wait is through.

Originally posted by NatralBrnThrila:
Waaay too early to be making my wish list for next off season but it's always fun to think about it. (my job sucks)

Our D-line was far better last year than the year previous and I expect them to keep getting better. Just the same, I'd like to see us take a run at a proper NT next off season. There's some wicked one's coming up in free agency:

Pat Williams is up and Minny has a lot of talent to make decisions on next year, so maybe he'll escape the franchise tag. Haven't seen em in a 3-4 but I'm sure he'd handle himself just fine. Shaun Rogers will have had enough of Cleveland and I'm sure we'll make an honest run at landing em this time. Ngata's up too but I'm sure he'll be franchised. Here's to hoping

I think we're pretty much set everywhere else as long as we keep drafting well. IMO we're at the stage of the game where we're drafting for depth. I'm expecting us to be drafting WELL into the back half this year so my draft wish list would be:

1-NT; Unless we fluke out. Come on Ngata Kinda doubt 1 would slide to us in the 1st round if we pick late.

2-weak side pass rusher; I'm giving Lawson and Brooks the benefit of the doubt but you can never have enough pass rush. Again, I doubt 1 will slide to us but there's always the "raw" guys.

3-CB (1st rd'er); I can't see us letting Clemons' contract mature to $11 mil+ unless he really steps up his game this year. Really hope we can find a way to trade up on this one.

4-DE (2nd rd'er); I'm kinda anticipating having to replace McDonald and the guys below him are kind of unknowns. On top of that, Justin Smith can't play forever so might as well get the talent in the system before hand.

[u]5-WR (3rd rd'er)[u/]; There's always a bad 40 time waiting to be drafted in this round and you don't get the 1st round attitude. Might lose Quincey Morgan next year and this could wind up being a cheap upgrade.

[u]6-DE again (4th rd'er)[u/]; For the same reason as the first DE.

[u]7-the best O-lineman we can get (5th rd'er)[u/]; I'd like to see us keep the cupboard full this time and avoid another mess. Little make work projects like this should pan out with the line coaches we have now.

[u]8-FB (6th rd'er)[u/]; Does Bar None have any kids coming up soon? If so, get em in here cuz our Full Backs have been stock as a rock for way too long.

[u]9-K/P (7th rd'er)[u/]; not exactly pressing but I wasn't gonna bring up the Q word in the 7th round. If we're drafting another Q word it'll be in the top 10 anyway. Besides, last year I think I seen one of Ned's old balls fall out the bottom of his pants. Never hurts to have someone for the team to wedgie either.

Now that's how you waste a work day.

With no CBA in place there is no Franchise tender next year.

~Ceadder

Originally posted by NatralBrnThrila:

Originally posted by D-NOTTE:
Enough about Smith.... I dont want to turn this into one of those threads. I do think we could have upgraded at the center position. Is the old center from the titans last year still availible, good for veteran depth if nothing else. Hell we know he can run block(see chris Johnson stats)

I really like Heitmann at C. Imo he's gonna be that glue guy, not only because he's the center and makes the line calls but because he's the most experienced 9er and is the unquestioned leader up front. I think those traits are going to be key in bringing this line together quickly. Imo, letting go of that kind of leadership would be a huge set back, particularly to the interior lineman where Heitmann has experience at playing G.

But depth wise it would be a great move you're right. I don't think any of our guys are going to get enough top team reps to ever be able to come into a game and replace Heitmann. We'll only get that from a guy who's done it already. Trick is finding one to sit on the bench and be a teacher.

No offense and I'm not trying to rehash the Heitmann issue. But isn't this EXACTLY why Ray and Solari were brought in? Solari being a McKittrick disciple and Ray having PLAYED every position on the Line? You want your leader who can coach and lend advice from the Bench? Isn't that what Ray will be doing? Personally I just want Heitmann to shut up and do his job. Let the coaches coach and Ray lend game time feedback. I want Heitmann to concentrate on his job, make better calls and protect the middle. He may be able to plant me like a 5'10" railroad spike, but if I see Smith or ANY of our QBs' get rocked like Rocky Bernard rocked Smith and completely untouched, he's the first guy I'm picking bones with. No excuse for that from a guy that is considered one of the best Scheme callers in the game. I disagree with that, but as I said I'm not here to rehash.

I just want our QB to have the same 3-4 seconds that the rest of the league seems to enjoy. Is that too much to ask?

~Ceadder

Originally posted by D-NOTTE:
Call me a pessimist.... (I JUST WANT TO WIN BABY). I do believe there are areas on our team that we are just sitting content on that could be improved. All of us want that bonifide QB, so I wont speak on that, but couldnt we have picked up a pass rusher capable of getting more than 6 sacks or a proven safety in case one of our young ones don't pan out. An edge is missing that could be the difference in us taking the west as well as the NFC. Pride in our players is one thing and maximize our talent pool is another. Something sexy is missing. I for one will not be over proud to just be good or having a winning record, and as much of a fan as I am I will hold my head down and admit I dont think(i pray I'm wrong)[b] we will win the SB this year. Not strong enough.

[/b]


1.Get that A.Davis crap outta here (lol

2.You cannot see the 49ers improvement last year???
They are a team on the rise

3.SB win this year???lol
That would be outstanding but we're not in the 80's no more(SB or bust).
Their goal right now is to get to the playoffs

Go Niners

Originally posted by Ceadderman:

Originally posted by NatralBrnThrila:

Originally posted by D-NOTTE:
Enough about Smith.... I dont want to turn this into one of those threads. I do think we could have upgraded at the center position. Is the old center from the titans last year still availible, good for veteran depth if nothing else. Hell we know he can run block(see chris Johnson stats)

I really like Heitmann at C. Imo he's gonna be that glue guy, not only because he's the center and makes the line calls but because he's the most experienced 9er and is the unquestioned leader up front. I think those traits are going to be key in bringing this line together quickly. Imo, letting go of that kind of leadership would be a huge set back, particularly to the interior lineman where Heitmann has experience at playing G.

But depth wise it would be a great move you're right. I don't think any of our guys are going to get enough top team reps to ever be able to come into a game and replace Heitmann. We'll only get that from a guy who's done it already. Trick is finding one to sit on the bench and be a teacher.

No offense and I'm not trying to rehash the Heitmann issue. But isn't this EXACTLY why Ray and Solari were brought in? Solari being a McKittrick disciple and Ray having PLAYED every position on the Line? You want your leader who can coach and lend advice from the Bench? Isn't that what Ray will be doing? Personally I just want Heitmann to shut up and do his job. Let the coaches coach and Ray lend game time feedback. I want Heitmann to concentrate on his job, make better calls and protect the middle. He may be able to plant me like a 5'10" railroad spike, but if I see Smith or ANY of our QBs' get rocked like Rocky Bernard rocked Smith and completely untouched, he's the first guy I'm picking bones with. No excuse for that from a guy that is considered one of the best Scheme callers in the game. I disagree with that, but as I said I'm not here to rehash.

I just want our QB to have the same 3-4 seconds that the rest of the league seems to enjoy. Is that too much to ask?

~Ceadder

Ya I hear where you're coming from on that 1. But at some point during a game, the young fellers are gonna have questions and I would hope Heitmann's the guy they're looking to for answers. If you can't trust the man in the middle to handle all of his responsibilities then he's not worth keeping.

I would hope the new line coaches will designate a guy as their on field coach and that has to be Heitmann on this crew. I think he can handle his role on this team. He's played in the league for a while now and has seen some good line play and seen even more bad line play. By now he should know within a half second of snapping the ball whether his Guards are doing the right thing and where he needs to slide. Heitmann's the one I'm looking at to help this group during game time. This groups so young the coaching can't stop at the sideline. They're gonna need someone to beat the messages into their heads constantly for the 1st little while and hopefully, it IS just a little while.

I was just agreeing with the previous poster that having a veteran backup would be an asset as I don't trust anybody that we have, to come into a game and do a good job with the line we have this year. Despite my complete faith in the new coaching staff, I think we come up short on leadership up front and if Heitmann were to go down I think we'd be in a bad spot. Maybe Baas if he doesn't win a spot a G this year but we definitely lose something there and I've never seen Sims play C but I think that guy plays football like how old people f**k. Dude can't play T and he can barely play G but I suppose the knowledge is still there (although I don't know what kind of knowledge you would have gained playing for the Raiders) ???

But the hard part is finding a good veteran C who's willing to sit on the bench and answer dumb questions from the young guys. So I guess the back half of what I wrote in both of my posts was completely pointless. I just really don't have anything better to do.

Depth and Holes are two totally different things...

Our "hole" is RT and LG, where we drafted in the 1st round. Iupati should be able to contribute this season, Davis is learning at a slower pace from what I read??? Who knows tho, training camp isn't here yet. Hopefully he is studying his blocking assignments and improving his cardio. I would love to see Boone push for time at RT if Davis doesn't get it by week 1.

Depth issues...

#1- NT, Franklin may not get that extension so we need another body if Balmer and RJF arent the answer, I see both as DE.

#2- CB, we need more young bodies...lets hope for a healthy year for our top 4 guys.

#3- C, I like Heitmann but we need another guy.

#4- FB, we need to get a top flight FB(3rd rounder) to block for Gore and Coffee and for those 3rd and 1 calls where we need a bruiser to get that yard!

Our draft next year isn't going to have too many sexy picks, but it will go along way towards getting us into the playoffs.

whats missing is just 2 letters......TO BABY!!!!





He would be a better #2 WR than Josh Morgan, a better #3 than Hill or Ginn

This team is ready to go the fans know it, the coaches know it, and most off all the NFL knows it with 5 national tv games. Last season this team lost 2 games as time expired hopefully they learned and it wont happen again this year. I would put 21 out of the 22 starters against any team in the league. (meaning the only thing that holds us back is qb play) Dont want to make this a Smith thread but there is no reason why he shouldnt go for 3,500 yards 25 tds and 10ints. If that happens 11 wins should be no problem and once your in the playoffs anything can happen.

Originally posted by theninermaniac:
whats missing is just 2 letters......TO BABY!!!!





He would be a better #2 WR than Josh Morgan, a better #3 than Hill or Ginn

You honestly have yourself convince that Team Obliterator will want to play #2 and not be a whiny little drama queen about it. The guy is a washed up prima donna that just isn't worth the trouble, the fact that no team has signed him yet just proves it.

Originally posted by NatralBrnThrila:

Originally posted by Ceadderman:

Originally posted by NatralBrnThrila:

Originally posted by D-NOTTE:
Enough about Smith.... I dont want to turn this into one of those threads. I do think we could have upgraded at the center position. Is the old center from the titans last year still availible, good for veteran depth if nothing else. Hell we know he can run block(see chris Johnson stats)

I really like Heitmann at C. Imo he's gonna be that glue guy, not only because he's the center and makes the line calls but because he's the most experienced 9er and is the unquestioned leader up front. I think those traits are going to be key in bringing this line together quickly. Imo, letting go of that kind of leadership would be a huge set back, particularly to the interior lineman where Heitmann has experience at playing G.

But depth wise it would be a great move you're right. I don't think any of our guys are going to get enough top team reps to ever be able to come into a game and replace Heitmann. We'll only get that from a guy who's done it already. Trick is finding one to sit on the bench and be a teacher.

No offense and I'm not trying to rehash the Heitmann issue. But isn't this EXACTLY why Ray and Solari were brought in? Solari being a McKittrick disciple and Ray having PLAYED every position on the Line? You want your leader who can coach and lend advice from the Bench? Isn't that what Ray will be doing? Personally I just want Heitmann to shut up and do his job. Let the coaches coach and Ray lend game time feedback. I want Heitmann to concentrate on his job, make better calls and protect the middle. He may be able to plant me like a 5'10" railroad spike, but if I see Smith or ANY of our QBs' get rocked like Rocky Bernard rocked Smith and completely untouched, he's the first guy I'm picking bones with. No excuse for that from a guy that is considered one of the best Scheme callers in the game. I disagree with that, but as I said I'm not here to rehash.

I just want our QB to have the same 3-4 seconds that the rest of the league seems to enjoy. Is that too much to ask?

~Ceadder

Ya I hear where you're coming from on that 1. But at some point during a game, the young fellers are gonna have questions and I would hope Heitmann's the guy they're looking to for answers. If you can't trust the man in the middle to handle all of his responsibilities then he's not worth keeping.

I would hope the new line coaches will designate a guy as their on field coach and that has to be Heitmann on this crew. I think he can handle his role on this team. He's played in the league for a while now and has seen some good line play and seen even more bad line play. By now he should know within a half second of snapping the ball whether his Guards are doing the right thing and where he needs to slide. Heitmann's the one I'm looking at to help this group during game time. This groups so young the coaching can't stop at the sideline. They're gonna need someone to beat the messages into their heads constantly for the 1st little while and hopefully, it IS just a little while.

I was just agreeing with the previous poster that having a veteran backup would be an asset as I don't trust anybody that we have, to come into a game and do a good job with the line we have this year. Despite my complete faith in the new coaching staff, I think we come up short on leadership up front and if Heitmann were to go down I think we'd be in a bad spot. Maybe Baas if he doesn't win a spot a G this year but we definitely lose something there and I've never seen Sims play C but I think that guy plays football like how old people f**k. Dude can't play T and he can barely play G but I suppose the knowledge is still there (although I don't know what kind of knowledge you would have gained playing for the Raiders) ???

But the hard part is finding a good veteran C who's willing to sit on the bench and answer dumb questions from the young guys. So I guess the back half of what I wrote in both of my posts was completely pointless. I just really don't have anything better to do.

I don't know about your take but Sims sure held down the LT position admirably when he was moved over after Staley went down. I think that a lot of players are simply played out of their natural position based on a team's needs. We needed a RT due to Staley owning the LT position. So Sims was a back up there. It made me wonder how many players are victims of this. I mean I'm pretty sure that 3 of our guys last year were playing out of position besides Sims. Rachal, Baas and Heitmann.

YES I say Heitmann. We ALL know that he was supposed to be short term answer at Center. He's a Guard and a good one at that. When Newberry went down Heitmann slid over and this team has not even really looked for his replacement. Baas was SUPPOSED to be that guy. And Rachal imho his footwork is suited for LG. All this got me wondering if our resident Photoshop Posterboy shouldn't have been on the Left Side instead of the Right. Cause when he go manhandled the opening move would be a shove to the Left Shoulder Pad which put him off balance. This indicates a Right balance stance.

So say I come at you and your natural balance is on your Right. If I give you a sharp shot to the left shoulder your body will naturally move to the right. It's almost involuntary.

I'm not saying Harris would have made a great LT. Cause one thing that is needed with a Right handed QB is a tenacious LT who faces the premier Pass Rush specialists in the game. Kwame was more of a Run Blocker than a Pass Blocker. Part of that could be due to being victimized out of position. But some of that could be due to attitude. Look at how Sims approached the LT position if you need a frame of reference. I believe that I even mentioned Sims for his outstanding play at the LT after his first game and continued to mention his play after that on more than one occasion.

~Ceadder

Too much to read for me ^^^

Originally posted by Memphis9er:

Originally posted by theninermaniac:
whats missing is just 2 letters......TO BABY!!!!





He would be a better #2 WR than Josh Morgan, a better #3 than Hill or Ginn

You honestly have yourself convince that Team Obliterator will want to play #2 and not be a whiny little drama queen about it. The guy is a washed up prima donna that just isn't worth the trouble, the fact that no team has signed him yet just proves it.

Say what you want..........numbers dont lie.

Team Obliterator.....how about Touchdown Owner

Team - games played - catches - yards - TDs

2009 Buffalo Bills 16 55 829 5 (shipwrecked on the worst passing team in NFL)

2008 Dallas Cowboys 16 69 1,052 10 (that's a lot of TDs!)

2007 Dallas Cowboys 15 81 1,355 15 (hello, Pro Bowl!)

2006 Dallas Cowboys 16 85 1,180 13 (Dallas loves them some TO!)

2005 Philadelphia Eagles 7 47 763 6 (played in playoffs despite broken ankle)

2004 Philadelphia Eagles 14 77 1,200 14 (Philly loves them some TO!)

2003 San Francisco 49ers 15 80 1,102 9

2002 San Francisco 49ers 14 100 1,300 13


COMPARE WITH Josh Morgan's 52 catches for 527 and 3 TDs last year.

Let's allow Coach Sing to do his job and get the most out of his players. TO as our #2 could easily reach 55-65 catches, 800-900 yards and 5-8 TDs. Not sure Morgan or any other current WR minus Crabtree is capable of those numbers.

Originally posted by D-NOTTE:
Call me a pessimist.... (I JUST WANT TO WIN BABY). I do believe there are areas on our team that we are just sitting content on that could be improved. All of us want that bonifide QB, so I wont speak on that, but couldnt we have picked up a pass rusher capable of getting more than 6 sacks or a proven safety in case one of our young ones don't pan out. An edge is missing that could be the difference in us taking the west as well as the NFC. Pride in our players is one thing and maximize our talent pool is another. Something sexy is missing. I for one will not be over proud to just be good or having a winning record, and as much of a fan as I am I will hold my head down and admit I dont think(i pray I'm wrong) we will win the SB this year. Not strong enough.

"Something sexy is missing."

Originally posted by Ceadderman:

Originally posted by NatralBrnThrila:

Originally posted by Ceadderman:

Originally posted by NatralBrnThrila:

Originally posted by D-NOTTE:
Enough about Smith.... I dont want to turn this into one of those threads. I do think we could have upgraded at the center position. Is the old center from the titans last year still availible, good for veteran depth if nothing else. Hell we know he can run block(see chris Johnson stats)

I really like Heitmann at C. Imo he's gonna be that glue guy, not only because he's the center and makes the line calls but because he's the most experienced 9er and is the unquestioned leader up front. I think those traits are going to be key in bringing this line together quickly. Imo, letting go of that kind of leadership would be a huge set back, particularly to the interior lineman where Heitmann has experience at playing G.

But depth wise it would be a great move you're right. I don't think any of our guys are going to get enough top team reps to ever be able to come into a game and replace Heitmann. We'll only get that from a guy who's done it already. Trick is finding one to sit on the bench and be a teacher.

No offense and I'm not trying to rehash the Heitmann issue. But isn't this EXACTLY why Ray and Solari were brought in? Solari being a McKittrick disciple and Ray having PLAYED every position on the Line? You want your leader who can coach and lend advice from the Bench? Isn't that what Ray will be doing? Personally I just want Heitmann to shut up and do his job. Let the coaches coach and Ray lend game time feedback. I want Heitmann to concentrate on his job, make better calls and protect the middle. He may be able to plant me like a 5'10" railroad spike, but if I see Smith or ANY of our QBs' get rocked like Rocky Bernard rocked Smith and completely untouched, he's the first guy I'm picking bones with. No excuse for that from a guy that is considered one of the best Scheme callers in the game. I disagree with that, but as I said I'm not here to rehash.

I just want our QB to have the same 3-4 seconds that the rest of the league seems to enjoy. Is that too much to ask?

~Ceadder

Ya I hear where you're coming from on that 1. But at some point during a game, the young fellers are gonna have questions and I would hope Heitmann's the guy they're looking to for answers. If you can't trust the man in the middle to handle all of his responsibilities then he's not worth keeping.

I would hope the new line coaches will designate a guy as their on field coach and that has to be Heitmann on this crew. I think he can handle his role on this team. He's played in the league for a while now and has seen some good line play and seen even more bad line play. By now he should know within a half second of snapping the ball whether his Guards are doing the right thing and where he needs to slide. Heitmann's the one I'm looking at to help this group during game time. This groups so young the coaching can't stop at the sideline. They're gonna need someone to beat the messages into their heads constantly for the 1st little while and hopefully, it IS just a little while.

I was just agreeing with the previous poster that having a veteran backup would be an asset as I don't trust anybody that we have, to come into a game and do a good job with the line we have this year. Despite my complete faith in the new coaching staff, I think we come up short on leadership up front and if Heitmann were to go down I think we'd be in a bad spot. Maybe Baas if he doesn't win a spot a G this year but we definitely lose something there and I've never seen Sims play C but I think that guy plays football like how old people f**k. Dude can't play T and he can barely play G but I suppose the knowledge is still there (although I don't know what kind of knowledge you would have gained playing for the Raiders) ???

But the hard part is finding a good veteran C who's willing to sit on the bench and answer dumb questions from the young guys. So I guess the back half of what I wrote in both of my posts was completely pointless. I just really don't have anything better to do.

I don't know about your take but Sims sure held down the LT position admirably when he was moved over after Staley went down. I think that a lot of players are simply played out of their natural position based on a team's needs. We needed a RT due to Staley owning the LT position. So Sims was a back up there. It made me wonder how many players are victims of this. I mean I'm pretty sure that 3 of our guys last year were playing out of position besides Sims. Rachal, Baas and Heitmann.

YES I say Heitmann. We ALL know that he was supposed to be short term answer at Center. He's a Guard and a good one at that. When Newberry went down Heitmann slid over and this team has not even really looked for his replacement. Baas was SUPPOSED to be that guy. And Rachal imho his footwork is suited for LG. All this got me wondering if our resident Photoshop Posterboy shouldn't have been on the Left Side instead of the Right. Cause when he go manhandled the opening move would be a shove to the Left Shoulder Pad which put him off balance. This indicates a Right balance stance.

So say I come at you and your natural balance is on your Right. If I give you a sharp shot to the left shoulder your body will naturally move to the right. It's almost involuntary.

I'm not saying Harris would have made a great LT. Cause one thing that is needed with a Right handed QB is a tenacious LT who faces the premier Pass Rush specialists in the game. Kwame was more of a Run Blocker than a Pass Blocker. Part of that could be due to being victimized out of position. But some of that could be due to attitude. Look at how Sims approached the LT position if you need a frame of reference. I believe that I even mentioned Sims for his outstanding play at the LT after his first game and continued to mention his play after that on more than one occasion.

~Ceadder

Ya you got me there. Sims held down the fort when Staley went down. I agree that he probably has been victimized by being asked to play out of position and my opinion was formulated on seeing him lose his job on the right side. What can I say, I expected the vet to take over and he looked bad. I think my misconception is probably that it's just plain easier to play the right side than the left. May have some truth to it but it's understandable that many guys have trouble coordinating their bodies as well as they would if they were playing the spot that they've always played.

As far as Kwame went lol! I hated on this man for years and I refuse to believe he would of been able to handle the back side but I will say that his lack of whatever was emphasized by our entire line's lack of whatever. I always thought Kwame let guys get up on em with too much speed and he just didn't play aggressively when pass blocking. You let anyone deliver the 1st blow or take 3 or more strides before you engage and your not giving yourself a very good chance, especially if you're playing the wrong side. More than anything I think he just wasn't a mean guy... Just didn't have it in em.

Originally posted by theninermaniac:

Originally posted by Memphis9er:

Originally posted by theninermaniac:
whats missing is just 2 letters......TO BABY!!!!





He would be a better #2 WR than Josh Morgan, a better #3 than Hill or Ginn

You honestly have yourself convince that Team Obliterator will want to play #2 and not be a whiny little drama queen about it. The guy is a washed up prima donna that just isn't worth the trouble, the fact that no team has signed him yet just proves it.

Say what you want..........numbers dont lie.

Team Obliterator.....how about Touchdown Owner

Team - games played - catches - yards - TDs

2009 Buffalo Bills 16 55 829 5 (shipwrecked on the worst passing team in NFL)

2008 Dallas Cowboys 16 69 1,052 10 (that's a lot of TDs!)

2007 Dallas Cowboys 15 81 1,355 15 (hello, Pro Bowl!)

2006 Dallas Cowboys 16 85 1,180 13 (Dallas loves them some TO!)

2005 Philadelphia Eagles 7 47 763 6 (played in playoffs despite broken ankle)

2004 Philadelphia Eagles 14 77 1,200 14 (Philly loves them some TO!)

2003 San Francisco 49ers 15 80 1,102 9

2002 San Francisco 49ers 14 100 1,300 13


COMPARE WITH Josh Morgan's 52 catches for 527 and 3 TDs last year.

Let's allow Coach Sing to do his job and get the most out of his players. TO as our #2 could easily reach 55-65 catches, 800-900 yards and 5-8 TDs. Not sure Morgan or any other current WR minus Crabtree is capable of those numbers.

TO will not ever be happy unless he is in the spotlight, he would be nothing but trouble and a distraction. Don't you think that if he were worth the trouble Jerry Jones would've kept paying his lame ass? The guy is a 36 year old child that has lost a step and while his physical skills might let him play #2, I doubt his ego will. We do not need this kind of distraction on this team.