Will Singletary get us to the playoffs?

Originally posted by ezrider:

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MS wants a balanced attack with an EMPHASIS ON THE RUN. That scares me. He said he wants to be able to run the ball EVEN IF THEIR ARE 8 OR 9 IN THE BOX -- which tells me he's going to force his philosophy for the sake of philosophy which is not good. He's emphasizing the run and hired a me-too lap dog in Raye which also means we can expect a fairly anemic passing game that is not able to rack up points or get the niners out of trouble.

In an official article on this site it said he wanted a perfectly balanced attack. That is, 5 passes for every 5 runs in a typical offensive series. To compare, Martz's philosophy was 5 1/2 passes to 4 runs (also very balanced and basically the same thing) yet MS fired him and brought a career loser like Raye in?

You need to take a class in remedial reading. Mike wants a balanced attack with an emphasis on the run in the second half to run out the clock and discourage and tire the defense. It may tell you something, but certainly not me. Mike studied offense under Walsh and wants to use his schemes. That is why he brought in Jimmy Raye who is anything but a career loser. Your post seems to indicate that you were looking in the mirror when you made that statement.

As to calling Martz balanced, you have to be kidding. He ran the ball plenty in the first half, then abandoned the run in the 4th quarter and blew two games for us. In fact, if that ex-Lamb hadn't insisted on wasting our time with JT O'Interception and had used Hill from the beginning we very likely would have made the playoffs and Martzy would still have a job.

Singletary and Raye will lead us deep into the playoffs this season. Take if from an old-time vet who watched the Niners develop a championship team in the late '70s and win it in 1981. We're on the right track and this season's defense will be awesome.

Co signed!! Mike Singletary is no Nolan...He will make adjustments. Looking at Jimmy Rayes credentials it seems to me if you give him talent he succeeds. If not the O still looks halfway decent. I am more confident in my team now more than with Nolan. He had us looking like confused idiots.

Originally posted by pasodoc9er:
Well, let's see:

On O we have a diminished Gore, may or may not have a Qb, got Staley and chilo on the line, Morgan, and maybe jhill, and a maybe an OC/or not.

On D we have P-52, and unh...unh...jsmith, and unnh...well, not much else.(And please don't tell me about Nate, because w/out a passrush, he is very mediocre.)

We have a green HC who got interim HC time last yr, but has no other HC, OC, DC, RB, QB, TE,WR, OL, DB, DL, coaching experience. Really.

We have jedi jed as the new owner in place-in training, with no experience, being shown the ropes by McC...or is it the other way around? And even if jed is the man, does anybody really think jyork is going to relinquish the checkbook? i don't.

We got/had Paraag in the review box(oh that changed...DIDN'T it?)

And THAT is supposed to get us to the playoffs? Actually, we got a bunch of great second stringers, or subs if you like. But from what i see, we look about like a team starting over from scratch with one all pro at LB.

Add it all together and if you can get to playoffs like that, well...

Doc, glad to see you're posting more frequently again, and hope your health is fully restored.

I completely understand your pessimism, and you make some very valid points. I would like, however, to point out one thing that cannot and should not be overlooked: Nolan is no long the HC.

So many of the problems with the team over the past four years were directly related to the HC, IMO. The improvement of the the talent level went for naught, because he didn't know how to use the talent he got, so people began to doubt Scot Mc's ability as a talent evaluator, and the ownership's dedication to improvement, etc.

Things have changed. Singletary may or may not be the answer, but let's give him a chance.

I was very skeptical of Singletary at first. However, seeing how the team responded to his coaching, last season, gives me hope for the future. When a guy like Spikes says he wants to come back to finish what was started under Singletary, well, that speaks volumes, IMO.

So, although your pessimistic evaluation is not without basis--given what we've suffered through over these past five years, and more--hold on. Things are changing. Look at what Singletary is doing (paying attention to the players he's got, instead of wooing some big name free agents) and saying (he likes Raye for OC because of Raye's fire, his old school attitude), and don't give up on the team just yet.

if he gets a monster pass rush then yes.

Originally posted by 49erjoe:
if he gets a monster pass rush then yes.

I think it takes a monster pass rush to win the super bowl but not win the NFC West.

i voted yes

[quote=pasodoc9er]Well, let's see:

On O we have a diminished Gore, may or may not have a Qb, got Staley and chilo on the line, Morgan, and maybe jhill, and a maybe an OC/or not.

On D we have P-52, and unh...unh...jsmith, and unnh...well, not much else.(And please don't tell me about Nate, because w/out a passrush, he is very mediocre.)

We have a green HC who got interim HC time last yr, but has no other HC, OC, DC, RB, QB, TE,WR, OL, DB, DL, coaching experience. Really.

We have jedi jed as the new owner in place-in training, with no experience, being shown the ropes by McC...or is it the other way around? And even if jed is the man, does anybody really think jyork is going to relinquish the checkbook? i don't.

We got/had Paraag in the review box(oh that changed...DIDN'T it?)

And THAT is supposed to get us to the playoffs? Actually, we got a bunch of great second stringers, or subs if you like. But from what i see, we look about like a team starting over from scratch with one all pro at LB.

Add it all together and if you can get to playoffs like that, well...





Facts and truth...BRAVO!! Couldn't agree more.

Probably not this year..... Still need a dominating NT and a pass rush. Shaun Hill is servicable but is he the answer?? Will the O-line finally pass block?? Will the young WR's step up? I highly doubt were going to be out coaching anybody this season... soooooooo... I'm thinking 8-8 is the best possibility.

Originally posted by jays9ers:
Probably not this year..... Still need a dominating NT and a pass rush. Shaun Hill is servicable but is he the answer?? Will the O-line finally pass block?? Will the young WR's step up? I highly doubt were going to be out coaching anybody this season... soooooooo... I'm thinking 8-8 is the best possibility.

so negative, yes, this year come on

Originally posted by Sabrason:
[[u]quote=pasodoc9er]We have jedi jed as the new owner in place-in training, with no experience, being shown the ropes by McC...or is it the other way around? And even if jed is the man, does anybody really think jyork is going to relinquish the checkbook? i don't.

I seem to recall another young owner with no experience given the team by his rich Father and floundering for the first couple of years with a new set of coaches. I also recall people at the time complaining that Eddie wasn't really controlling the purse strings.

Originally posted by jon_aztecs12:

Originally posted by jays9ers:
Probably not this year..... Still need a dominating NT and a pass rush. Shaun Hill is servicable but is he the answer?? Will the O-line finally pass block?? Will the young WR's step up? I highly doubt were going to be out coaching anybody this season... soooooooo... I'm thinking 8-8 is the best possibility.

so negative, yes, this year come on

I wish I could be more optimistic, but I've had my hopes crushed year and year out waiting on them to develop into a play off caliber team.. We shall see though..

Originally posted by jays9ers:

Originally posted by jon_aztecs12:

Originally posted by jays9ers:
Probably not this year..... Still need a dominating NT and a pass rush. Shaun Hill is servicable but is he the answer?? Will the O-line finally pass block?? Will the young WR's step up? I highly doubt were going to be out coaching anybody this season... soooooooo... I'm thinking 8-8 is the best possibility.

so negative, yes, this year come on

I wish I could be more optimistic, but I've had my hopes crushed year and year out waiting on them to develop into a play off caliber team.. We shall see though..

Most zoners accept Singletary as our football GOD. Singletary will motivate the team to places we haven't visited before.

From what he showed me last year, I believe he can. However, this offseason has been a complete 180! I hope the team brings it during the regular season. If we flop during the season, I'll be off the bandwagon. I'm a realist.

Good luck tracking peoples predictions...nothing ever comes from it. I guarantee you the biggest majority I have ever seen on this forum was back when the Rollin with Nolan movement began. Literally 9 out of every 10 zoners were riding this guys nuts. Then 12 months ago 9 out of 10 zoners wanted him fired...and even in this huge reversal of support the demand for personal accountability on the zone just wasn't there.

So who cares, sometimes people are wrong and sometimes they are right. We just have to depend on the honor system that people will post when they have been wrong about something or somebody. I do...problem is I am rarely wrong. With that being said, I don't think Sing is a good HC, and I doubt he is going to become a good one.

If he keeps up his hard-nosed, "get off my field" mentality, we could hit the playoffs as early as 09'. He made some calls last year that Nolan would never have even thought of. My only real complaint was the second 4th and goal in the Dallas game. Not going for it lost us that game!

If not in 09', I think Sing will get us there by 2010. At least I sure as hell hope so, it has been a long time since I been to playoff game!

The thing about Singletary is every player who comes to the team respects him as a HOF linebacker with a SB ring. That's got to count for a lot.