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Mar 6, 2013 at 3:08 AM
- tatdwolf49
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Luv goldson but he makes dumb mistakes N dumb mistakes at horrible times N at $9mill a yr no thanx walker at a mill or 2 is crazy for someone that goz on dropies streaks like he does ... think we should draft tha te ouuta UCLA he's a bigg red zone TD machine
Mar 6, 2013 at 3:11 AM
- tatdwolf49
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Also Jennings maybe looking at a nice pay day with bowe signed N Wes close to signing bac with pats...
Mar 6, 2013 at 3:19 AM
- LieutKaffee
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Originally posted by tatdwolf49:
Luv goldson but he makes dumb mistakes N dumb mistakes at horrible times N at $9mill a yr no thanx walker at a mill or 2 is crazy for someone that goz on dropies streaks like he does ... think we should draft tha te ouuta UCLA he's a bigg red zone TD machine
In 2011 Weddle got 5 years $40m $19m guaranteed at age 26 to remain with the Chargers. I think it's clear Goldson cares about money, but we can assume he'll stay here if we're willing to match what the market bears. That's $8m a year at the absolute worst.
Mar 6, 2013 at 3:39 AM
- tatdwolf49
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Yea N goldson 29 now are u really willing to pay 8+ mill to a 33-34 yr old that mite get worse N frm what I heard we offered him bigg money N he still wantd more .. no way we can pay everybody on defense 7+ mill a yr N keep key offensive players also ...
Mar 6, 2013 at 3:45 AM
- LieutKaffee
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Originally posted by tatdwolf49:
Yea N goldson 29 now are u really willing to pay 8+ mill to a 33-34 yr old that mite get worse N frm what I heard we offered him bigg money N he still wantd more .. no way we can pay everybody on defense 7+ mill a yr N keep key offensive players also ...
No one in the NFL ever stays around for their whole contract. Players say they want the "security" of a long-term deal, but when they actually need is the security of that guarantee before they become another cap casualty. Sign Goldson for 4 years, $32m with $16m guaranteed and then cut him when the cap space becomes more important elsewhere.
Mar 6, 2013 at 3:52 AM
- tatdwolf49
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I'd rather take a shot at tha safety frm det younger has had a few injurys so we could bring in on tha cheap hopefully or even a one yr like Rogers N draft a safety or 2 cus whitner has 1 yr left
Mar 6, 2013 at 6:38 PM
- GorefullBore
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I am sold on the first two picks, but I don't think we can afford both Goldson and Walker. The market would have to really bring their asking price down to earth for that to happe.
Mar 7, 2013 at 9:51 AM
- blm7754
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You have us keeping Walker and drafting a TE in round 3? Who's going to play WR?
As for Goldson.... it's not that we can't afford him now. We could easily make room for him. It's 2 years down the road that I think Baalke is worried about. Our offense will get much more expensive with Kaepernick, Crabtree, A. Davis, and Iupati all with extensions looming. And we can't forget about Aldon Smith. Premier pass rushers are almost as expensive as franchise QBs.
Can't pay a safety $8M. Even a good one. Not worth it.
As for Goldson.... it's not that we can't afford him now. We could easily make room for him. It's 2 years down the road that I think Baalke is worried about. Our offense will get much more expensive with Kaepernick, Crabtree, A. Davis, and Iupati all with extensions looming. And we can't forget about Aldon Smith. Premier pass rushers are almost as expensive as franchise QBs.
Can't pay a safety $8M. Even a good one. Not worth it.
Mar 7, 2013 at 1:51 PM
- LieutKaffee
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Originally posted by blm7754:
You have us keeping Walker and drafting a TE in round 3? Who's going to play WR?
As for Goldson.... it's not that we can't afford him now. We could easily make room for him. It's 2 years down the road that I think Baalke is worried about. Our offense will get much more expensive with Kaepernick, Crabtree, A. Davis, and Iupati all with extensions looming. And we can't forget about Aldon Smith. Premier pass rushers are almost as expensive as franchise QBs.
Can't pay a safety $8M. Even a good one. Not worth it.
I get the salary cap concerns for 1-2 years down the road. But does that really make it so we have to lose our All-Pro safety this year when we are SB favorites? Isn't there a win-win contract we could come to that gets him a sizable guarantee but it's front-loaded?
As for Walker, I really think he's important. Not as a TE, but as an H-back and special teams player. I think he does enough to warrant a new contract, and it would be harder to replace him through the draft or free agency.
As for pass-catchers, I think it should be our highest priority in FA. Our WR group is just too thin, and I don't think the draft is going to be the place to get an immediately productive #2. If Jennings is too expensive, maybe Brandon Gibson or Brian Hartline or whoever. I like the idea of getting a tall RZ type TE to create additional matchup problems with VD.
Although I didn't put one in my top few picks, I think we should also take a WR or two down the line.
Mar 7, 2013 at 2:37 PM
- AB81Rules
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Goldson's deal will be similar to Bowman and Brooks' deals, low signing bonus, plus 750k roster bonuses, 100k workout bonuses, and incentives. If not, forget it.