I really hope that Culliver at LEAST turns out to be as good as Stanford Routt on the Raiders.
Also hope Harbaugh has plans to use all 3 RB's often and not give gore 28 carries a game
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May 3, 2011 at 11:58 PM
- YungAce
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May 4, 2011 at 12:18 AM
- NinerGold39
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Looks like you're one of the ones that didn't drink Mike Mayock's kool aid.
May 4, 2011 at 12:20 AM
- Niners23
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Originally posted by YungAce:
I really hope that Culliver at LEAST turns out to be as good as Stanford Routt on the Raiders.
Also hope Harbaugh has plans to use all 3 RB's often and not give gore 28 carries a game
Wait what? You wouldn't be satisfied with a 3rd round pick at CB unless he was at LEAST as good as a guy voted as the 10th best CB in the NFL by ESPN? That makes no sense.
May 4, 2011 at 12:39 AM
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Thank you for that review.
Aldon Smith is like a bigger, stronger, pass-rushing version of Manny Lawson. He won't be as good in coverage, and probably not as good against the run as Manny, but he'll be able to get to the quarterback.
The combine numbers say he can't move laterally, thank goodness offensive linemen aren't orange cones, because on film, moving laterally around lineman looks like what he does best. He uses his long arms to push off linemen in conjunction with his athleticism and gets around them in a flash. You can't push off cones with your arms, but you sure as heck can do so with linemen, because linemen are taller and weigh a lot more than cones. I'd rather have a football player, than a lateral movement around cones expert.
Kaepernick made just about every other quarterback at the Senior Bowl (with the exception of Ponder), look like slow, clumsy, Pee Wee football players in comparison. His only disadvantages are that he looks kind of skinny and he has a funny sounding name; but everything else is off the charts. Who better than Harbaugh to mold him into an elite player?
I am SO happy our coaching staff realized that the most important positions on an NFL team, pass rush and quarterbacking, have been our biggest weakness for years. No more crossing our fingers and hoping that Lawson will find the quarterback or Alex Smith will consistently make plays. We needed to swallow our pills and take our medicine sooner rather than later. We did what we needed to do.
Aldon Smith is like a bigger, stronger, pass-rushing version of Manny Lawson. He won't be as good in coverage, and probably not as good against the run as Manny, but he'll be able to get to the quarterback.
The combine numbers say he can't move laterally, thank goodness offensive linemen aren't orange cones, because on film, moving laterally around lineman looks like what he does best. He uses his long arms to push off linemen in conjunction with his athleticism and gets around them in a flash. You can't push off cones with your arms, but you sure as heck can do so with linemen, because linemen are taller and weigh a lot more than cones. I'd rather have a football player, than a lateral movement around cones expert.
Kaepernick made just about every other quarterback at the Senior Bowl (with the exception of Ponder), look like slow, clumsy, Pee Wee football players in comparison. His only disadvantages are that he looks kind of skinny and he has a funny sounding name; but everything else is off the charts. Who better than Harbaugh to mold him into an elite player?
I am SO happy our coaching staff realized that the most important positions on an NFL team, pass rush and quarterbacking, have been our biggest weakness for years. No more crossing our fingers and hoping that Lawson will find the quarterback or Alex Smith will consistently make plays. We needed to swallow our pills and take our medicine sooner rather than later. We did what we needed to do.
May 4, 2011 at 12:49 AM
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Originally posted by Niners23:Originally posted by YungAce:
I really hope that Culliver at LEAST turns out to be as good as Stanford Routt on the Raiders.
Also hope Harbaugh has plans to use all 3 RB's often and not give gore 28 carries a game
Wait what? You wouldn't be satisfied with a 3rd round pick at CB unless he was at LEAST as good as a guy voted as the 10th best CB in the NFL by ESPN? That makes no sense.
I think he's making the comparison because when the Raiders drafted Routt, they did so mostly based upon his speed and athleticism, which looks like what we have done with Culliver. The Raiders were criticized for making the pick because I think he was a high second rounder or low first rounder if I recall.
May 4, 2011 at 1:14 AM
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Originally posted by BrianGO:Originally posted by Niners23:Originally posted by YungAce:
I really hope that Culliver at LEAST turns out to be as good as Stanford Routt on the Raiders.
Also hope Harbaugh has plans to use all 3 RB's often and not give gore 28 carries a game
Wait what? You wouldn't be satisfied with a 3rd round pick at CB unless he was at LEAST as good as a guy voted as the 10th best CB in the NFL by ESPN? That makes no sense.
I think he's making the comparison because when the Raiders drafted Routt, they did so mostly based upon his speed and athleticism, which looks like what we have done with Culliver. The Raiders were criticized for making the pick because I think he was a high second rounder or low first rounder if I recall.
No, I get the comparison to Routt as far as draft status. However, I don't get the at least as good as him part.
May 4, 2011 at 1:15 AM
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Originally posted by BrianGO:Originally posted by Niners23:Originally posted by YungAce:
I really hope that Culliver at LEAST turns out to be as good as Stanford Routt on the Raiders.
Also hope Harbaugh has plans to use all 3 RB's often and not give gore 28 carries a game
Wait what? You wouldn't be satisfied with a 3rd round pick at CB unless he was at LEAST as good as a guy voted as the 10th best CB in the NFL by ESPN? That makes no sense.
I think he's making the comparison because when the Raiders drafted Routt, they did so mostly based upon his speed and athleticism, which looks like what we have done with Culliver. The Raiders were criticized for making the pick because I think he was a high second rounder or low first rounder if I recall.
We shall see.
Also i'd like gore to max out at 20 carries, best would be 16 and 100 yards. Dixon getting about 10, and the rookie getting a few carries mixed in to keep both fresh!
May 4, 2011 at 1:25 AM
- Niners23
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Originally posted by TheGoldDiggerrrr:Originally posted by BrianGO:Originally posted by Niners23:Originally posted by YungAce:
I really hope that Culliver at LEAST turns out to be as good as Stanford Routt on the Raiders.
Also hope Harbaugh has plans to use all 3 RB's often and not give gore 28 carries a game
Wait what? You wouldn't be satisfied with a 3rd round pick at CB unless he was at LEAST as good as a guy voted as the 10th best CB in the NFL by ESPN? That makes no sense.
I think he's making the comparison because when the Raiders drafted Routt, they did so mostly based upon his speed and athleticism, which looks like what we have done with Culliver. The Raiders were criticized for making the pick because I think he was a high second rounder or low first rounder if I recall.
We shall see.
Also i'd like gore to max out at 20 carries, best would be 16 and 100 yards. Dixon getting about 10, and the rookie getting a few carries mixed in to keep both fresh!
Wait, 16 for Gore, 10 for Dixon and a few for the rookie equals roughly 30 carries a game. We averaged about 25/game last year, and having 30 would put us in the top 5 in the league for runs/game - I'm not sure we want to run that much.
Also, I think you're being overly optimistic with 16 carries for 100 yards for Gore. That's 6.25 YPC, and in his best season Gore only got 5.4, and has never broken 4.9 expect for that season.
May 4, 2011 at 1:42 AM
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Originally posted by Niners23:Originally posted by BrianGO:Originally posted by Niners23:Originally posted by YungAce:
I really hope that Culliver at LEAST turns out to be as good as Stanford Routt on the Raiders.
Also hope Harbaugh has plans to use all 3 RB's often and not give gore 28 carries a game
Wait what? You wouldn't be satisfied with a 3rd round pick at CB unless he was at LEAST as good as a guy voted as the 10th best CB in the NFL by ESPN? That makes no sense.
I think he's making the comparison because when the Raiders drafted Routt, they did so mostly based upon his speed and athleticism, which looks like what we have done with Culliver. The Raiders were criticized for making the pick because I think he was a high second rounder or low first rounder if I recall.
No, I get the comparison to Routt as far as draft status. However, I don't get the at least as good as him part.
One could make a better comparison between Sammy Davis and Chris Culliver, as they both lack football instincts. Raw athleticism means nothing if you arent a football player, otherwise the NFL would see track stars trying out for teams on a daily basis. I am not a fan of the pick at all, but I hope that the coaching staff can prove me wrong.
May 4, 2011 at 3:55 AM
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Originally posted by Niners23:Originally posted by TheGoldDiggerrrr:Originally posted by BrianGO:Originally posted by Niners23:Originally posted by YungAce:
I really hope that Culliver at LEAST turns out to be as good as Stanford Routt on the Raiders.
Also hope Harbaugh has plans to use all 3 RB's often and not give gore 28 carries a game
Wait what? You wouldn't be satisfied with a 3rd round pick at CB unless he was at LEAST as good as a guy voted as the 10th best CB in the NFL by ESPN? That makes no sense.
I think he's making the comparison because when the Raiders drafted Routt, they did so mostly based upon his speed and athleticism, which looks like what we have done with Culliver. The Raiders were criticized for making the pick because I think he was a high second rounder or low first rounder if I recall.
We shall see.
Also i'd like gore to max out at 20 carries, best would be 16 and 100 yards. Dixon getting about 10, and the rookie getting a few carries mixed in to keep both fresh!
Wait, 16 for Gore, 10 for Dixon and a few for the rookie equals roughly 30 carries a game. We averaged about 25/game last year, and having 30 would put us in the top 5 in the league for runs/game - I'm not sure we want to run that much.
Also, I think you're being overly optimistic with 16 carries for 100 yards for Gore. That's 6.25 YPC, and in his best season Gore only got 5.4, and has never broken 4.9 expect for that season.
i think on average in a normal game gore will get around 15-16
dixon will get about 4 to 5
hunter will be in on 3rd and longs (sometimes) and maybe get 2 a game
around 24 -26 a game this time however with harbaug we wont do run run pass (hopefully) so we will see more plays than last year
May 4, 2011 at 4:20 AM
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Nice summation, Good. Agree with basically everythink. Appreciate the time you put in to your work. Shows your dedication. God bless, man.
[ Edited by mayo49 on May 4, 2011 at 05:02:48 ]
[ Edited by mayo49 on May 4, 2011 at 05:02:48 ]
May 4, 2011 at 4:42 AM
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Aldon Smith lined up inside on occasion. He could be a super pick.
May 4, 2011 at 5:06 AM
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I like the review....I was at first shocked at the selection of Smith, but after re reading many write ups, I am jazzed about him.
Hunter made my draft. Kap does need to sit for two years, but that two years, he will come out slinging like Aaron Rodgers.
I though the draft deserved a B myself
Good write up dude.
Hunter made my draft. Kap does need to sit for two years, but that two years, he will come out slinging like Aaron Rodgers.
I though the draft deserved a B myself
Good write up dude.
May 4, 2011 at 6:06 AM
- Walsh
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Thanks. Great review. We've been in need of some pass rush and qb forever and now we have it. Fans always find something to complain about. I predict Aldon will get 2+ sacks this coming season.