Originally posted by boast:
Buster gonna hire Nick Hundley?
hope so!
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Originally posted by boast:
Buster gonna hire Nick Hundley?
Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Originally posted by Ninerjohn:
Originally posted by Rubberneck36:Thats what Ive been saying and said earlier in the year that Bochy wouldnt win with this roster either. I also dont believe their talent is anywhere near the best teams in the league or even the other wild card teams with the possible exception of the Reds. By the way, Bochy's last 3 seasons were 64-98, 73-89, and 77-85. Buster needs to greatly improve the roster and get a young energetic manager to run the ship.
Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Originally posted by Rubberneck36:
Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Originally posted by Rubberneck36:
Originally posted by DeepNinerValue:
I would consider re-hiring Kapler. Quite clearly the scapegoat, he always got the most out of mediocre talent. Still young, always put together a great coaching staff.
Prob not gonna happen, optics and what not.
I have heard Mark DeRosas name thrown around. I wish he had hired Stephen Vogt.
I don't care who it is, I would to get Kevin Cash from Tampa
Kapler is s**t. I would they hire Sergio Romo than meathead Kapler.
As much as I agree with you that Kapler is not someone I want with this team, at this point its pretty indisputable that he did more for this team with less talent than Melvin did.
But with that said, I still dont want Kapler anywhere near this team.
ehhh I dont agree. He had one good year and the rest was s**t. Was his one good year that much different than the amazing start the giants had this year, coupled with their resurgence at the end to almost get back in it? I think you guys forget how stupid giants baseball was under him. His lineups were dumb, and his handling of the pitching staff was dumb. He didnt do anything with his mind...it was all analytics. Just hire an analytics guy instead. Auto lineup and subs.
Those s**t seasons were pretty on par with this past season, and Melvin was working with WAY more talent than Kapler was during those. That is all I am saying. I want nothing to do with Kapler moving forward. Just feel like Melvin had a team that should have been a playoff team this year, and we arent.
Agree. But IMO that has more to do with Melvin than any connection to Kapler. Melvin was a 3 time manager of the year. But he's also old as s**t and uninspiring now. He's not the same manager he was with the A's.
The only thing I will say is I dont think the giants have as much talent as some are saying. They got Devers way late, SP wasnt that great to start, and the bullpen ended up being crap after their incredible start. And RF and 2B are a big hole. Mix that in with Bailey not hitting until the last month and half and the giants were the slowest team in baseball and couldnt steal bags. This team wasn't loaded like the other big teams.
I dont think that this team is loaded with talent like the best teams in the league. But we absolutely had enough talent to be a playoff team. The bullpen didnt fall apart until we started making trades. If we would have won 5 games during the stretch that we went 1-15, we make the playoffs.
I do believe this team makes the playoffs with Bochy, but I dont really care to bring him back. He is 70 years old. No shot he would be around for more than a season or two.
Originally posted by Ninerjohn:
Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:LOL. The Dodgers would never have let that happen. They have more resources than anyone and have shown they will do whatever is necessary to get the guys they want.
God Shohei should be a f**king Giant. Pisses me off.
Originally posted by VaBeachNiner:
Posey confirmed Bochy isn't a candidate.
Originally posted by Rubberneck36:
In his first full season, Lee
1) Led the Giants in batting average at .266 (not an exciting number but it was good for 23rd in the entire league)
2) Led the Giants in doubles with 31 (17 th in NL).
3). Led the Giants in triples with 12 (2nd in NL and 2nd most ever for a Giant at Oracle).

Originally posted by Rubberneck36:
In his first full season, Lee
1) Led the Giants in batting average at .266 (not an exciting number but it was good for 23rd in the entire league)
2) Led the Giants in doubles with 31 (17 th in NL).
3). Led the Giants in triples with 12 (2nd in NL and 2nd most ever for a Giant at Oracle).
Originally posted by Rubberneck36:
In his first full season, Lee
1) Led the Giants in batting average at .266 (not an exciting number but it was good for 23rd in the entire league)
2) Led the Giants in doubles with 31 (17 th in NL).
3). Led the Giants in triples with 12 (2nd in NL and 2nd most ever for a Giant at Oracle).
Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Originally posted by Rubberneck36:
In his first full season, Lee
1) Led the Giants in batting average at .266 (not an exciting number but it was good for 23rd in the entire league)
2) Led the Giants in doubles with 31 (17 th in NL).
3). Led the Giants in triples with 12 (2nd in NL and 2nd most ever for a Giant at Oracle).
The next step for Lee IMO is to develop is pitch selection better. I would like to see his walk rate climb and his chase rate fall. It is hard to have your leadoff hitter with a .324 OBP, so I understand to an extent why Melvin refused to put Lee in the leadoff role. But I do believe that his future is our leadoff hitter.
Overall, I was pleased with his season. Would be nice to not have a huge month+ long slump, but his overall season was a success IMO.
Originally posted by LottDMontanaO:
Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Originally posted by Rubberneck36:
In his first full season, Lee
1) Led the Giants in batting average at .266 (not an exciting number but it was good for 23rd in the entire league)
2) Led the Giants in doubles with 31 (17 th in NL).
3). Led the Giants in triples with 12 (2nd in NL and 2nd most ever for a Giant at Oracle).
The next step for Lee IMO is to develop is pitch selection better. I would like to see his walk rate climb and his chase rate fall. It is hard to have your leadoff hitter with a .324 OBP, so I understand to an extent why Melvin refused to put Lee in the leadoff role. But I do believe that his future is our leadoff hitter.
Overall, I was pleased with his season. Would be nice to not have a huge month+ long slump, but his overall season was a success IMO.
Good post, and agreed about Lee needing to improve his pitch selection. Hoping to see that, which will lead to even more hits and walks. Him getting on base more and utilizing his speed on the base paths, stealing more bases, scoring more runs, etc., will make him that much more of an offensive threat.
Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Originally posted by LottDMontanaO:
Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Originally posted by Rubberneck36:
In his first full season, Lee
1) Led the Giants in batting average at .266 (not an exciting number but it was good for 23rd in the entire league)
2) Led the Giants in doubles with 31 (17 th in NL).
3). Led the Giants in triples with 12 (2nd in NL and 2nd most ever for a Giant at Oracle).
The next step for Lee IMO is to develop is pitch selection better. I would like to see his walk rate climb and his chase rate fall. It is hard to have your leadoff hitter with a .324 OBP, so I understand to an extent why Melvin refused to put Lee in the leadoff role. But I do believe that his future is our leadoff hitter.
Overall, I was pleased with his season. Would be nice to not have a huge month+ long slump, but his overall season was a success IMO.
Good post, and agreed about Lee needing to improve his pitch selection. Hoping to see that, which will lead to even more hits and walks. Him getting on base more and utilizing his speed on the base paths, stealing more bases, scoring more runs, etc., will make him that much more of an offensive threat.
Yep. And a lot of the time, pitch selection improves with reps. Lots of baseball people believe the KBO is the equivalent of AA ball (or the hypothetical league that would be between AA and AAA). I dont ever expect him to be the .350 hitter with around a .400 OBP here that he was in Korea. But to already be a .260 hitter immediately after making the jump from the KBO is great. He would have had every excuse to be a .220 hitter in his first full season, but he already majorly exceeded that. Excited for his future.
Originally posted by SFGiant49ers:
But everyone knows he has the worst contract in history and that he should be cut immediately
Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Originally posted by Ninerjohn:
Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:LOL. The Dodgers would never have let that happen. They have more resources than anyone and have shown they will do whatever is necessary to get the guys they want.
God Shohei should be a f**king Giant. Pisses me off.
Well then we should have forced them to pay way more, like we should have offered.
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
I want to see him work on his swing and become a really good contact hitter. Stay away from that uppercut swing. He's not a HR hitter. It seems like wheneve rhe goes into a slump it's aftewr he hits that occasional HR. Yankee stadium ruined him for a month. Then they can move him to the leadoff spot. Get on base in front of Devers and Adames. He needs to work on his base stealing as well. He has the speed but his success rate isn't great.