2026 San Francisco Giants Season Thread

He's a manager. Not a coach. lol learn baseball.

Originally posted by Hopper:

Originally posted by VaBeachNiner:
Not his fault lol

"It wasn't his fault."

Bob Melvin defends Heliot Ramos' throwing error in the Giants' second-inning collapse pic.twitter.com/hN6dvyH4T8

— SF Giants on NBCS (@NBCSGiants) August 13, 2025

You can't keep defending low IQ baseball from Ramos.

Say bye to Flores and put him as DH.

Originally posted by Rubberneck36:
He's a manager. Not a coach. lol learn baseball.

I get why some are mad at Melvin; plenty of blame to go around for this s**t show. But it isn't the manager or coaches that isn't getting runs, hitting, striking out, mental lapses on defense etc etc..

Put me down as blaming the players for simply not performing up to par.

Originally posted by Hopper:

Originally posted by VaBeachNiner:
Not his fault lol

"It wasn't his fault."

Bob Melvin defends Heliot Ramos' throwing error in the Giants' second-inning collapse pic.twitter.com/hN6dvyH4T8

— SF Giants on NBCS (@NBCSGiants) August 13, 2025

You can't keep defending low IQ baseball from Ramos.

A ball slipping out of a player's hand when deciding not to throw it after already in his throwing motion has absolutely zero to do with IQ.

Originally posted by 49ers808:
I get why some are mad at Melvin; plenty of blame to go around for this s**t show. But it isn't the manager or coaches that isn't getting runs, hitting, striking out, mental lapses on defense etc etc..

Put me down as blaming the players for simply not performing up to par.

yup. we see this group isn't getting it done and we have some very long term contracts on the books at high cost. the adames contract is looking stupid. he's a nice guy, good person, but he's not a great hitter or fielder. i don't really know what he is tbh. overpaid is what he is. and it's year 1 of that deal. imagine when he's 34.

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by 49ers808:
I get why some are mad at Melvin; plenty of blame to go around for this s**t show. But it isn't the manager or coaches that isn't getting runs, hitting, striking out, mental lapses on defense etc etc..

Put me down as blaming the players for simply not performing up to par.

yup. we see this group isn't getting it done and we have some very long term contracts on the books at high cost. the adames contract is looking stupid. he's a nice guy, good person, but he's not a great hitter or fielder. i don't really know what he is tbh. overpaid is what he is. and it's year 1 of that deal. imagine when he's 34.

Adames on this team qualifies as a grear hitter. His average is low but part of that is because he started so poorly thins seasn and has been digging himself out of a hole all year. His fielding isn't grerat but it'sbetter than it has been. Playing next to Chapman allows hm to cheat more toward the middle.

Nearly everyone felt that it was a good off season signing.

Originally posted by PRIMETIME21:
How empty were the stands ? I hope people not showing up to watch that garbage , team has completely given up, and that's a reflection of the coach, Melvin should be fired, take Burrell and Bailey too

hoping for some cheap tickets for good seats, so I can take my parents to their first game!

Took them to their first dubs game and that cost an arm/leg lol

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Adames on this team qualifies as a grear hitter. His average is low but part of that is because he started so poorly thins seasn and has been digging himself out of a hole all year. His fielding isn't grerat but it'sbetter than it has been. Playing next to Chapman allows hm to cheat more toward the middle.

Nearly everyone felt that it was a good off season signing.

i have always felt in FA, you pay for quality. don't pay for mediocre. mediocre you can find laying around, like Dom Smith. adames has been pretty darn mediocre to call a spade a spade.

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Adames on this team qualifies as a grear hitter. His average is low but part of that is because he started so poorly thins seasn and has been digging himself out of a hole all year. His fielding isn't grerat but it'sbetter than it has been. Playing next to Chapman allows hm to cheat more toward the middle.

Nearly everyone felt that it was a good off season signing.

i have always felt in FA, you pay for quality. don't pay for mediocre. mediocre you can find laying around, like Dom Smith. adames has been pretty darn mediocre to call a spade a spade.

I'm not saying he's Mookie Betts but be real. The Giants haven't had much luck signing the really big names. Devers would hav enever come here as a free agent. They had to trade for him. Given the overall quality of this team and their minor league system Adames is about as good as we'll get. If they hadn't signed him and wasted time trying to get some big name that would never come here then fans would be criticizing them for doing nothing. At least they tried to upgrade SS which was terrible last year.

Even if they were able to sign guys like Alonso or other big names there's no guarantee they would be productive playing at Oracle. The park wears on players as they see balls die on the warning track over and over. The Dodgers have had the highest rtor one of the highest payrolls for the last 10 years. They have collected some of the best talent in history on one team. They've won 1 real title. No guarantees in baseball.

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Adames on this team qualifies as a grear hitter. His average is low but part of that is because he started so poorly thins seasn and has been digging himself out of a hole all year. His fielding isn't grerat but it'sbetter than it has been. Playing next to Chapman allows hm to cheat more toward the middle.

Nearly everyone felt that it was a good off season signing.

i have always felt in FA, you pay for quality. don't pay for mediocre. mediocre you can find laying around, like Dom Smith. adames has been pretty darn mediocre to call a spade a spade.

I'm not saying he's Mookie Betts but be real. The Giants haven't had much luck signing the really big names. Devers would hav enever come here as a free agent. They had to trade for him. Given the overall quality of this team and their minor league system Adames is about as good as we'll get. If they hadn't signed him and wasted time trying to get some big name that would never come here then fans would be criticizing them for doing nothing. At least they tried to upgrade SS which was terrible last year.

Even if they were able to sign guys like Alonso or other big names there's no guarantee they would be productive playing at Oracle. The park wears on players as they see balls die on the warning track over and over. The Dodgers have had the highest rtor one of the highest payrolls for the last 10 years. They have collected some of the best talent in history on one team. They've won 1 real title. No guarantees in baseball.

Willy Adames has been offensively better than Mookie Betts has been in 2025.

Originally posted by VaBeachNiner:

Originally posted by Hopper:

Originally posted by VaBeachNiner:
Not his fault lol

"It wasn't his fault."

Bob Melvin defends Heliot Ramos' throwing error in the Giants' second-inning collapse pic.twitter.com/hN6dvyH4T8

— SF Giants on NBCS (@NBCSGiants) August 13, 2025

You can't keep defending low IQ baseball from Ramos.

Say bye to Flores and put him as DH.

He's an embarrassment in the field and running the bases.

Originally posted by ads_2006:

Originally posted by PRIMETIME21:
How empty were the stands ? I hope people not showing up to watch that garbage , team has completely given up, and that's a reflection of the coach, Melvin should be fired, take Burrell and Bailey too

hoping for some cheap tickets for good seats, so I can take my parents to their first game!

Took them to their first dubs game and that cost an arm/leg lol

Only good part is cheap seats lol

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Adames on this team qualifies as a grear hitter. His average is low but part of that is because he started so poorly thins seasn and has been digging himself out of a hole all year. His fielding isn't grerat but it'sbetter than it has been. Playing next to Chapman allows hm to cheat more toward the middle.

Nearly everyone felt that it was a good off season signing.

i have always felt in FA, you pay for quality. don't pay for mediocre. mediocre you can find laying around, like Dom Smith. adames has been pretty darn mediocre to call a spade a spade.

I'm not saying he's Mookie Betts but be real. The Giants haven't had much luck signing the really big names. Devers would hav enever come here as a free agent. They had to trade for him. Given the overall quality of this team and their minor league system Adames is about as good as we'll get. If they hadn't signed him and wasted time trying to get some big name that would never come here then fans would be criticizing them for doing nothing. At least they tried to upgrade SS which was terrible last year.

Even if they were able to sign guys like Alonso or other big names there's no guarantee they would be productive playing at Oracle. The park wears on players as they see balls die on the warning track over and over. The Dodgers have had the highest rtor one of the highest payrolls for the last 10 years. They have collected some of the best talent in history on one team. They've won 1 real title. No guarantees in baseball.

Willy Adames has been offensively better than Mookie Betts has been in 2025.

More HRs but Betts started off really slow this year because of some injuries. He still has a higher BA. My point is ask 10 people and I'm pretty sure at lerast 9 would say Betts is a better player. A bigger name. The type of player that the Giants haven't been able to sign.

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Adames on this team qualifies as a grear hitter. His average is low but part of that is because he started so poorly thins seasn and has been digging himself out of a hole all year. His fielding isn't grerat but it'sbetter than it has been. Playing next to Chapman allows hm to cheat more toward the middle.

Nearly everyone felt that it was a good off season signing.

i have always felt in FA, you pay for quality. don't pay for mediocre. mediocre you can find laying around, like Dom Smith. adames has been pretty darn mediocre to call a spade a spade.

I'm not saying he's Mookie Betts but be real. The Giants haven't had much luck signing the really big names. Devers would hav enever come here as a free agent. They had to trade for him. Given the overall quality of this team and their minor league system Adames is about as good as we'll get. If they hadn't signed him and wasted time trying to get some big name that would never come here then fans would be criticizing them for doing nothing. At least they tried to upgrade SS which was terrible last year.

Even if they were able to sign guys like Alonso or other big names there's no guarantee they would be productive playing at Oracle. The park wears on players as they see balls die on the warning track over and over. The Dodgers have had the highest rtor one of the highest payrolls for the last 10 years. They have collected some of the best talent in history on one team. They've won 1 real title. No guarantees in baseball.

Willy Adames has been offensively better than Mookie Betts has been in 2025.

More HRs but Betts started off really slow this year because of some injuries. He still has a higher BA. My point is ask 10 people and I'm pretty sure at lerast 9 would say Betts is a better player. A bigger name. The type of player that the Giants haven't been able to sign.

And Adames didnt get off to a really slow start? And we are still using batting average as a metric of value in 2025?

OPS: .701 to .684 favoring Adames
OPS+: 102 to 89 favoring Adames
oWAR: 2.4 to 1.6 favoring Adames
WPA: 0.5 to -1.3 favoring Adames

It isnt just homeruns. But point is, no one is saying Adames is as good as Mookie Betts. But as bad and/or disappointing as Adames has been with the bat this season, he has at the very least been on the same level as Betts. Advanced metrics say he has been better.

Not my argument or discussion above, but batting average isn't valuable at all anymore just because it's 2025?

I'll fully admit, I have no clue what the f*ck most of those advanced metrics mean, they look like a foreign language to me most of the time and I feel like baseball has wayyy wayyyyyyyyy too many ridiculous stats for every tiny little stupid thing.

If batting average isn't valuable at all in 2025, then why are people complaining about players like Bailey and a bunch of other players who are or were hitting under .200 for the longest time? If batting average isn't a metric of value, then why does anyone care at all how low of an average some of these players have?

I get that there are other metrics that are more valuable in baseball statistics, but to say batting average isn't valuable is kind of dumb IMO. Idk, maybe I'm just dumb I guess?