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Originally posted by valrod33:

He is daring the Cavs to trade him. I don't blame him.
Originally posted by 4ML:
Originally posted by JustinMT:
That's awful for Boogie too. Such a freak play with just 9 seconds left. I wonder who his replacement will be in the All Star game. Jokic?

I'd like Lue Williams on the team

Don't they have to pick a Big to replace him or is it different now?
Originally posted by 4ML:
Originally posted by TheHYDE49er:
is Lebron a great scorer or just a great all round player? i don't look at LBJ as an all time great type of scorer, the way I think about MJ, Kobe, AI, Kareem. Those guys could put up 50 a night consistently if they wanted to. LBJ is a great all around player, the best all around player ever, imo.

This. He's the only one on that list that is a better passer than scorer. He's definitely the best all-around player the game has ever seen.

And, it's crazy that he has a 50-50 shot at all time scoring record and is likely to finish at least at no. 2 if he stays relatively healthy.

But, there will still be haters who will go meh because they think he's done it because he came straight from high school. Kobe went thru this bs too. It gave Jordan, Wilt, Kareem and Malone tremendous advantage to go to college and refine their game and hit the ground running when they got to NBA - therefore they were able to do it in fewer games.

Lebron and Kobe made the jump straight from high-school and IMO their achievement of reaching 30000 is even greater.

Definitely the best all around player? I think you would have a big argument on that one. Michael Jordan was the best offensive player and the best defensive player in the game. Lebron could never say that.
Originally posted by JustinMT:
Originally posted by 4ML:
Originally posted by JustinMT:
That's awful for Boogie too. Such a freak play with just 9 seconds left. I wonder who his replacement will be in the All Star game. Jokic?

I'd like Lue Williams on the team

Don't they have to pick a Big to replace him or is it different now?

I think its different. However, I can see Andre Drummond getting the spot
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Originally posted by Bluesbro:
Originally posted by valrod33:

He is daring the Cavs to trade him. I don't blame him.

Lol you guys do realize it was a joke right?



Kevin Love just said yesterday that only way to shut up haters is to win.
[ Edited by 4ML on Jan 27, 2018 at 12:14 PM ]
Originally posted by Ninerjohn:
Originally posted by 4ML:
Originally posted by TheHYDE49er:
is Lebron a great scorer or just a great all round player? i don't look at LBJ as an all time great type of scorer, the way I think about MJ, Kobe, AI, Kareem. Those guys could put up 50 a night consistently if they wanted to. LBJ is a great all around player, the best all around player ever, imo.

This. He's the only one on that list that is a better passer than scorer. He's definitely the best all-around player the game has ever seen.

And, it's crazy that he has a 50-50 shot at all time scoring record and is likely to finish at least at no. 2 if he stays relatively healthy.

But, there will still be haters who will go meh because they think he's done it because he came straight from high school. Kobe went thru this bs too. It gave Jordan, Wilt, Kareem and Malone tremendous advantage to go to college and refine their game and hit the ground running when they got to NBA - therefore they were able to do it in fewer games.

Lebron and Kobe made the jump straight from high-school and IMO their achievement of reaching 30000 is even greater.

Definitely the best all around player? I think you would have a big argument on that one. Michael Jordan was the best offensive player and the best defensive player in the game. Lebron could never say that.

LBJ's been the best defensive player, probably not anymore, but from 20-30, he was the best. He's been by far the best player in the NBA as well for almost a decade now, offense and defense.
Originally posted by Ninerjohn:
Originally posted by JustinMT:
Originally posted by 4ML:
Originally posted by JustinMT:
That's awful for Boogie too. Such a freak play with just 9 seconds left. I wonder who his replacement will be in the All Star game. Jokic?

I'd like Lue Williams on the team

Don't they have to pick a Big to replace him or is it different now?

I think its different. However, I can see Andre Drummond getting the spot
Wouldn't they have to have an even number of Western and Eastern All Stars though?
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Originally posted by TheHYDE49er:
LBJ's been the best defensive player, probably not anymore, but from 20-30, he was the best. He's been by far the best player in the NBA as well for almost a decade now, offense and defense.

Plus he can guard more positions on defense and his offensive game is way more versatile than Jordan's.

Not getting DPOY doesn't mean you weren't the best defensive player. Voters can be stupid. Steve Nash won 2 MVPs
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Originally posted by JustinMT:
Originally posted by Ninerjohn:
Originally posted by JustinMT:
Originally posted by 4ML:
Originally posted by JustinMT:
That's awful for Boogie too. Such a freak play with just 9 seconds left. I wonder who his replacement will be in the All Star game. Jokic?

I'd like Lue Williams on the team

Don't they have to pick a Big to replace him or is it different now?

I think its different. However, I can see Andre Drummond getting the spot
Wouldn't they have to have an even number of Western and Eastern All Stars though?

You may be right there. Then I'd take Drummond though would love to see Simmons in the all star game with Lebron. That will be pretty awesome too.
Originally posted by TheHYDE49er:
Originally posted by Ninerjohn:
Originally posted by 4ML:
Originally posted by TheHYDE49er:
is Lebron a great scorer or just a great all round player? i don't look at LBJ as an all time great type of scorer, the way I think about MJ, Kobe, AI, Kareem. Those guys could put up 50 a night consistently if they wanted to. LBJ is a great all around player, the best all around player ever, imo.

This. He's the only one on that list that is a better passer than scorer. He's definitely the best all-around player the game has ever seen.

And, it's crazy that he has a 50-50 shot at all time scoring record and is likely to finish at least at no. 2 if he stays relatively healthy.

But, there will still be haters who will go meh because they think he's done it because he came straight from high school. Kobe went thru this bs too. It gave Jordan, Wilt, Kareem and Malone tremendous advantage to go to college and refine their game and hit the ground running when they got to NBA - therefore they were able to do it in fewer games.

Lebron and Kobe made the jump straight from high-school and IMO their achievement of reaching 30000 is even greater.

Definitely the best all around player? I think you would have a big argument on that one. Michael Jordan was the best offensive player and the best defensive player in the game. Lebron could never say that.

LBJ's been the best defensive player, probably not anymore, but from 20-30, he was the best. He's been by far the best player in the NBA as well for almost a decade now, offense and defense.

I keep looking for Lebrons name on the DPOY awards but cant find it. I didnt say he wasnt the best player in the league in the past decade. No one will debate that. However, I personally think its crazy talk to say he is "definitely the best all around player the game has ever seen". Honestly, I doubt you would find too many people who are old enough to have seen MJ play in the 80s who would agree with you on this one..

Come on... the best defensive player when he was 30? You cant really believe that. Also saying "probably not anymore" is pretty funny. He isnt close to the Draymond, Kawhi, KD, Gobert, Davis, and quite a few more at this point in his career
[ Edited by Ninerjohn on Jan 27, 2018 at 1:31 PM ]
With Boogie now out I expect Embiid to make All NBA first team

He should be the frontrunner for DPOY also although theres probably some people im forgetting
Originally posted by Ninerjohn:
Originally posted by TheHYDE49er:
Originally posted by Ninerjohn:
Originally posted by 4ML:
Originally posted by TheHYDE49er:
is Lebron a great scorer or just a great all round player? i don't look at LBJ as an all time great type of scorer, the way I think about MJ, Kobe, AI, Kareem. Those guys could put up 50 a night consistently if they wanted to. LBJ is a great all around player, the best all around player ever, imo.

This. He's the only one on that list that is a better passer than scorer. He's definitely the best all-around player the game has ever seen.

And, it's crazy that he has a 50-50 shot at all time scoring record and is likely to finish at least at no. 2 if he stays relatively healthy.

But, there will still be haters who will go meh because they think he's done it because he came straight from high school. Kobe went thru this bs too. It gave Jordan, Wilt, Kareem and Malone tremendous advantage to go to college and refine their game and hit the ground running when they got to NBA - therefore they were able to do it in fewer games.

Lebron and Kobe made the jump straight from high-school and IMO their achievement of reaching 30000 is even greater.

Definitely the best all around player? I think you would have a big argument on that one. Michael Jordan was the best offensive player and the best defensive player in the game. Lebron could never say that.

LBJ's been the best defensive player, probably not anymore, but from 20-30, he was the best. He's been by far the best player in the NBA as well for almost a decade now, offense and defense.

I keep looking for Lebrons name on the DPOY awards but cant find it. I didnt say he wasnt the best player in the league in the past decade. No one will debate that. However, I personally think its crazy talk to say he is "definitely the best all around player the game has ever seen". Honestly, I doubt you would find too many people who are old enough to have seen MJ play in the 80s who would agree with you on this one..

Come on... the best defensive player when he was 30? You cant really believe that. Also saying "probably not anymore" is pretty funny. He isnt close to the Draymond, Kawhi, KD, Gobert, Davis, and quite a few more at this point in his career

DPOY is mostly given to Cs, even Jordan only won one, when he should've had way more. LBJ can guard 1-4 and even some 5s. It's great that Gobert can block some shots and guard a C, but he's not gonna guard the other teams best offensive player with the game on the line and do it well like LBJ has done. And he's just as good as Draymond and Kawhi at playing D right now. He's 33 and he's got a lot of millage, he's not gonna wear his body out against the Hornets in December.

And I say all around player because there's nothing he can't do. Jordan wasn't a good 3 point shooter and could only guard 1-3. LBJ does everything, there's not a weakness to his game.
[ Edited by TheHYDE49er on Jan 27, 2018 at 3:30 PM ]
Oh we are having LeBron is the GOAT talks in here huh? Lol
btw i'm not saying that i think LBJ is a greater player than MJ, he just has a better all around game. MJ is the GOAT. his ability to almost score at will and some of the intangibles he had, LBJ doesn't have that. if he did, LBJ would have at least 10 titles by now.
I have always associated the phrase "best all around player" with "best player."

That guy is a better all around basketball player than me.....but I am better.

Lol.

Doesnt make sense right?
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