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NGL - Posponed. Will it fail like all the others?

Originally posted by Dr_Bill_Walsh:
only one that will ever remain viable is the CFL

now that LA is back in the fold, expect the NFL behemoth to grow exponentially in the next decade

2nd tier cities in the US will be priced out of trying to start a minor league

Do you mean more teams in the NFL? Bigger stadiums? Longer,season? Other countries with an NFL team like London?

It's a little mind boggling to wrap your head around exponential,growth. In such a dominant game.
Originally posted by ChazBoner:
lol, those dudes would get murdered in the NFL.

College kids that could not make it. With such a large amount of rejects and free agents washing cars and working in Walmart plus international undeveloped talent surely there must be a good pool of players that could be good that slip through the cracks. Over 1000 dudes get cut pre season alone.
Originally posted by KeepRabbitsOut:
Do you mean more teams in the NFL? Bigger stadiums? Longer,season? Other countries with an NFL team like London?

It's a little mind boggling to wrap your head around exponential,growth. In such a dominant game.

Nope. Growth for the current teams as is. The owners only just finally corrected the error of not having a team in LA, they're not gonna rock the status quo any time soon. It would also dilute the talent pool to expand and add teams (plus mess up the even divisions). The only team that still seems out of place and could possibly relocate is Jacksonville, but their owner is committed long term to that city (allegedly).
Originally posted by Dr_Bill_Walsh:
Nope. Growth for the current teams as is. The owners only just finally corrected the error of not having a team in LA, they're not gonna rock the status quo any time soon. It would also dilute the talent pool to expand and add teams (plus mess up the even divisions). The only team that still seems out of place and could possibly relocate is Jacksonville, but their owner is committed long term to that city (allegedly).

Yeah. could not believe there was no team in LA for so long after such a rich history and a massive population... yet there is Baltimore, Tennessee, 2 x Bay area teams, Seattle?(j/k), 2xNY+NE and San Diego. And where is Carolina? On the border between north and south? j/k again. Money talks I guess. Although I hope they don't do Vegas as that would be sad to see empty seats. Watching what happens next is absolutely fascinating. I love it.
It's good that american football is getting more international. Hopefully this means we get more international people in the draft. That's whats this sport has been behind at compared to baseball and basketball.
It needs to start at the grassroots level in the prospective countries that wanna eventually send (more) players into the NFL draft pool (with or without NCAA seasoning). NFL calibre players aren't gonna pop out of thin air nor do specimens like Hayne and his ilk grow on trees. Australia may leapfrog Germany eventually as their secondary educational system is more like the US, so pop warner/teen/high school gridiron can take root and thrive...will probably take 50 yrs + heavy inve$$$tment from the NFL
Originally posted by Dr_Bill_Walsh:
It needs to start at the grassroots level in the prospective countries that wanna eventually send (more) players into the NFL draft pool (with or without NCAA seasoning). NFL calibre players aren't gonna pop out of thin air nor do specimens like Hayne and his ilk grow on trees. Australia may leapfrog Germany eventually as their secondary educational system is more like the US, so pop warner/teen/high school gridiron can take root and thrive...will probably take 50 yrs + heavy inve$$$tment from the NFL

Can definitely see cost being an obstacle for the grass roots. Whether it be Rugby League or Union, Aussie Rules or soccer, kids just show up to play in a t-shirt, shorts and a pair of footy boots. To play AF they also need helmet and pads so that's an extra cost that competing games don't have.
Originally posted by Zealot:
Can definitely see cost being an obstacle for the grass roots. Whether it be Rugby League or Union, Aussie Rules or soccer, kids just show up to play in a t-shirt, shorts and a pair of footy boots. To play AF they also need helmet and pads so that's an extra cost that competing games don't have.

Equipment was a big problem for NGL. Huge outlay and all the equipment companies based in the US.

Definitely needs investors with very deep pockets who are extreme long term and patient.

So many second tier or Pro International AF failures. Cant see it coming from anyone else but the NFL. But they are too invested in what they have with Franchise owners controlling the League.

Frustrating that so many can see the need/opportunity but it is like trying to turn around an Ice Trucker on a dime.
That's for sure, my quick post only touched on the most basic aspect of the reality of the costs involved.

For a pro league to get going at all you need a strong revenue flow from fans right off the bat not least because of those massive additional costs that competing sports don't have. Unfortunately, that's just not gonna happen with 4 other football codes well entrenched. Alternatively, as you say you'd need people who were happy to take massive losses for years just to see AF able to stand on it's own feet, let alone make anything. Again, hard to see that happening.

If AF is ever to be played seriously at a pro level here, it's gonna be a long tough road.
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Absolutely cost prohibitive without huge financial support to get it off the ground
Shoe on the other foot.. A young Californian man would need to go to Aus east coast or New Zealand or United Kingdom if he decided he wanted to play world class Rugby League and make a career of it

Poor old Germany did not even get to the World Cup last year for the IFAF.

Of course USA won with runner up Japan( Japan is asian for America in sports ).

Australia came 5th (out of 7 countries) LOL
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