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OFFICIAL Warriors vs Spurs Playoffs Thread

Originally posted by dobophile:
This is true. GS was better the first two games and the Spurs have been better the last three. Momentum should be on the side of the Spurs.


Spurs are old. The three best players are over 30, two of whom are over 35. Duncan has looked like dog s**t at times, and Manu is slow and has missed WAY too many shots. This is why the contributions of young role players like Leonard and Green are so important. Danny Green, by the way, is the series MVP so far. Hope he keeps it up.


Spurs have played great defense for most of the series, even when there have been unfavorable matchups. Before last night, the main problem for the Spurs has been lack of hustle (loose balls, rebounds) and offensive execution (missed layups and open shots). If the Spurs had played with game 5's level of intensity and focus throughout, this series would already be over. It has very little to do with outside shooting; Neal and Bonner have been terrible, but that's par for the course and you shouldn't depend on them to be the difference in a playoff series.


Why do you hate to say that? I would love to say that. The hustle and execution last night gives me reason for optimism, but I have no doubt the Warriors have an amazing performance left in them.


I guess so. It's not so much going cold that will doom the Spurs. It's if they let up again and allow the Warriors to control the boards and grab the loose balls. Bogut is a cheap player who gets away with illegal screens and subtle elbows and so forth, but it doesn't really bother me because I think hard-workers who do all the little things deserve to control the paint. If the Spurs don't nut up and get physical, the Warriors will get tons of second chance shots. I can't tell you how many times the Spurs have played great defense, contested a shot which missed, but then the Warriors grabbed the board and Curry or Thompson hit a quick three. It was totally deflating.

Old? Parker is 30. Duncan is the only older key contributer. Manu contributes but his primary role has been mostly spot duty and finishing games. His contributions do not decide if we lose. I would say Leonard's and Green's contributions decided if we win or lose more than Manu's. Only one of our best players is old. Manu is 6th in minutes played and 4th in ppg while Leonard is 3rd in ppg only beating Green and Splitter by about 1.8ppg. At this point, Manu is really only a floor general when Tony needs a rest...unless Manu is hitting his 3's.

I don't think it has been lack of hustle but we may simply disagree on this. Dubs were making unreal, guarded shots in games 1 and 2 and making guarded shots in Game 4. The bodies were always infront of them but the law of averages is catching up to GS. Same goes for us, the law of averages caught up and we are out of our "slump" since most of our 3's in previous games were open looks. In Games 1 and 2, you got two guys on GS who had some crazy percentages. In Game 3, SA went on a huge slump.

I only hate to say it for the Dubs fans that are reading.
Originally posted by dobophile:
^ The Warriors easily won the battle of the boards in games 1 through 4, averaging an astonishing 15 offensive rebounds per game.


Yeah but why is that? Could it have anything to do with the fact that ALL SA defenders not named Duncan are trying to blanket the jump shot which makes it easier for their player to crash and get position? Spurs primarily role in this series is to protect the perimeter more than protect the key.
How is the warriors fans confidence level: playing with house money or ready to take this to seven?
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Originally posted by Joecool:
How is the warriors fans confidence level: playing with house money or ready to take this to seven?

Not a fan of the Warriors, but I expect them to come out firing tomorrow. At least 1 series in round 2 should go 7 games, and I don't see Knicks beating the Pacers twice - so it has to be this.
Joey Crawford reffing tonight. f**k! How the hell does this guy still have a job. Whenever he refs, his name is mentioned more than some of the players'.
Spurs are going to step on the throat tonight.

I'm just happy the Spurs are healthy. I don't remember the last time we were this healthy in the playoffs.
Doesn't matter who wins this series they will just get mauled by the Grizzlies...
[ Edited by Memphis9er on May 16, 2013 at 10:59 AM ]
Originally posted by Memphis9er:
Doesn't matter who wins this series they will just get mauled by the Grizzlies...

You mean the team that beat a team that only had 1 of its big three from last year? Mem does look very tough and is built tough, but they haven't played a strong team yet. If the Spurs advance, Randolph and those point guards won't land everything they throw up like they did last time these two teams played. Plus, our big 3 wasn't at full strength last time.
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Originally posted by Joecool:
Originally posted by Memphis9er:
Doesn't matter who wins this series they will just get mauled by the Grizzlies...

You mean the team that beat a team that only had 1 of its big three from last year? Mem does look very tough and is built tough, but they haven't played a strong team yet. If the Spurs advance, Randolph and those point guards won't land everything they throw up like they did last time these two teams played. Plus, our big 3 wasn't at full strength last time.

At least on paper - Memphis will be a nightmare match-up for the Spurs. They got a damn good defensive players at PG, SG and Center. That's why Spurs are strong and they will have to deal with tough match-ups. Memphis is younger, faster, and bigger. But, you guys do have an advantage at the coaching position and you've the experience on your side. Should be a fun series...though I'm not counting Warriors out just yet.
Originally posted by 49ersMyLife:
Originally posted by Joecool:
Originally posted by Memphis9er:
Doesn't matter who wins this series they will just get mauled by the Grizzlies...

You mean the team that beat a team that only had 1 of its big three from last year? Mem does look very tough and is built tough, but they haven't played a strong team yet. If the Spurs advance, Randolph and those point guards won't land everything they throw up like they did last time these two teams played. Plus, our big 3 wasn't at full strength last time.

At least on paper - Memphis will be a nightmare match-up for the Spurs. They got a damn good defensive players at PG, SG and Center. That's why Spurs are strong and they will have to deal with tough match-ups. Memphis is younger, faster, and bigger. But, you guys do have an advantage at the coaching position and you've the experience on your side. Should be a fun series...though I'm not counting Warriors out just yet.

We played very good defense on Z last time but damn everything he threw up was going in. The Guards were hitting their 3-pointers much higher above their average last time. Big Pau has gotten better. Gonna be tough and a fun series if it's SA. If it's GS, Warriors have no chance but a shooter's chance.
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Originally posted by Joecool:
Originally posted by 49ersMyLife:
Originally posted by Joecool:
Originally posted by Memphis9er:
Doesn't matter who wins this series they will just get mauled by the Grizzlies...

You mean the team that beat a team that only had 1 of its big three from last year? Mem does look very tough and is built tough, but they haven't played a strong team yet. If the Spurs advance, Randolph and those point guards won't land everything they throw up like they did last time these two teams played. Plus, our big 3 wasn't at full strength last time.

At least on paper - Memphis will be a nightmare match-up for the Spurs. They got a damn good defensive players at PG, SG and Center. That's why Spurs are strong and they will have to deal with tough match-ups. Memphis is younger, faster, and bigger. But, you guys do have an advantage at the coaching position and you've the experience on your side. Should be a fun series...though I'm not counting Warriors out just yet.

We played very good defense on Z last time but damn everything he threw up was going in. The Guards were hitting their 3-pointers much higher above their average last time. Big Pau has gotten better. Gonna be tough and a fun series if it's SA. If it's GS, Warriors have no chance but a shooter's chance.

I never understand your "normal" % argument - that means nothing. If you have a favorable match-up, you're likely to shoot higher %. If you've a tough matchup, you'll most likely shoot below your average.

Lebron James will have a higher FG% against Bucks than he will against Bulls. I can not make an argument that if Lebron shoots 56% against the Bulls (his normal % this season) - Heat will win.
Originally posted by 49ersMyLife:
Originally posted by Joecool:
Originally posted by 49ersMyLife:
Originally posted by Joecool:
Originally posted by Memphis9er:
Doesn't matter who wins this series they will just get mauled by the Grizzlies...

You mean the team that beat a team that only had 1 of its big three from last year? Mem does look very tough and is built tough, but they haven't played a strong team yet. If the Spurs advance, Randolph and those point guards won't land everything they throw up like they did last time these two teams played. Plus, our big 3 wasn't at full strength last time.

At least on paper - Memphis will be a nightmare match-up for the Spurs. They got a damn good defensive players at PG, SG and Center. That's why Spurs are strong and they will have to deal with tough match-ups. Memphis is younger, faster, and bigger. But, you guys do have an advantage at the coaching position and you've the experience on your side. Should be a fun series...though I'm not counting Warriors out just yet.

We played very good defense on Z last time but damn everything he threw up was going in. The Guards were hitting their 3-pointers much higher above their average last time. Big Pau has gotten better. Gonna be tough and a fun series if it's SA. If it's GS, Warriors have no chance but a shooter's chance.

I never understand your "normal" % argument - that means nothing. If you have a favorable match-up, you're likely to shoot higher %. If you've a tough matchup, you'll most likely shoot below your average.

Lebron James will have a higher FG% against Bucks than he will against Bulls. I can not make an argument that if Lebron shoots 56% against the Bulls (his normal % this season) - Heat will win.

What do you mean? Spurs played very good tough defense vs Z a few years back which forced him to throw up some blind shots or ugly shots...nearly everything was landing. The Spurs' 3-point went down from 39.7 to a pathetic 29.4. I'm sure the perimeter defense affected the 3-point but we were NOT at full strength at all.

Folks keep saying Spurs have no chance but they all forget that this is the first time the big three have been healthy in quite a few years in the playoffs now.

Just after the MEM series:
"But Popovich said the Spurs were never the same after Duncan sprained his left ankle in late March and Ginobili hurt his right elbow in the last regular-season game."
[ Edited by Joecool on May 16, 2013 at 12:56 PM ]
Originally posted by dobophile:

f**k, this game isn't going to be fun.
Originally posted by dobophile:



Is this old and I just missed it? A noose?
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