GM Role Play: Fixes over the Bye Week

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by DrEll:
My hunch is we get Brian Thomas Jr. You heard it here first

I like the talent but I just don't trust the person. How does a guy drafted in the first round and puts up a very impressive nearly 1300 yard 10 TD rookie season suddenly turn into a scrub with a pretty good QB and playcaller? Like it just doesn't make sense unless he's not putting in the effort which is a talent killer.

He has no experience in this type of offense so what is the expectation for him? Is he better than how many of the guys we have now? I find it hard to believe they'd bring in a guy unproven in this type of offense who would likely command solid draft compensation simply due to his talent level and age.

Perfect setup given he has Mike Evans around to coach him up the next 2 years. If he reaches his potential a future combo of Stribling and Thomas could be dominant for years to come.

Originally posted by Nastastical:
Lynch and Shanny gave up everything to get Lance, and they survived, so I pray we don't hold back and say screw those picks if we can somehow pull off a miracle blockbuster trade where we give up multiple 1st for Garrett Wilson.

Wilson would take this offense to a level that would be impossible to defend if Evans is healthy, and he would also allow Evans to rest until the games matter later in the season.

Really no reason not to make a big offer and see if the Jets bite, like they did when the Colts traded for Sauce, when no one knew he was available. He's 27 years old, and I feel like he's secretly available because it doesn't make sense to keep an expensive star WR when you don't have a QB. Use all those picks to super charge the rebuild if you manage those picks wisely.

Wilson is right behind guys like JSN and the other elites. The Jets are the only reason he's not ranked higher. That kid would eat with Purdy and Kyle, so I'm very comfortable trading a ton to get a game changing WR to be Purdy's WR1 for the next 5+ years.

Didn't people kinda know Sauce was available? The Jets were basically having an "anyone but Garrett Wilson" firesale at the deadline last year.

Went to the Chiefs subreddit, and of course they're banging the table for Garrett Wilson too lmao

People are so delusional. Unless the Jets get a HUGE overpay they are not trading Wilson. It'll take a multi-1sts trade to convince the Jets to do it.

If we're going to face the nasty defenses in the playoffs like Hawks, Vikings, etc.. I want Q Nelson. Give them Colby and a pick. Add AShawn Robinson to tighten up the run D. Overall, I am ok with our D. And just little add here and there. WR wise, we're getting guys back and the newer guys just need to absorb the system and gel with Purdy. Another TE maybe?

Originally posted by DrEll:

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by DrEll:
My hunch is we get Brian Thomas Jr. You heard it here first

I like the talent but I just don't trust the person. How does a guy drafted in the first round and puts up a very impressive nearly 1300 yard 10 TD rookie season suddenly turn into a scrub with a pretty good QB and playcaller? Like it just doesn't make sense unless he's not putting in the effort which is a talent killer.

He has no experience in this type of offense so what is the expectation for him? Is he better than how many of the guys we have now? I find it hard to believe they'd bring in a guy unproven in this type of offense who would likely command solid draft compensation simply due to his talent level and age.

Perfect setup given he has Mike Evans around to coach him up the next 2 years. If he reaches his potential a future combo of Stribling and Thomas could be dominant for years to come.

Mike can't coach guys into being dogs. If he's not putting in the effort with a good Jags squad then why do you think he'd do that here? He'd probably be lower on the depth chart here. Houston made the big move for Marvin Harrison but least there was a connection with CJ Stroud from their college days.

No connection to BTJ here. Just a guy who's talented but likely lazy or not committed to being great who would be behind the eight ball in ramping up and you don't trade for a season like this for a guy who can be good down the road. We need guys who can help this team now.

What CB's could possibly be available for trade? 49ers gotta find a way to stop this short passing game and the only way to do it is with better CB's.

Where the hell is Nate Hobbs?

Originally posted by Stanley:

Originally posted by raywm3:
I see no reason to add a WR. We will get back all of ours, except Pearsall, and we are playing for a trophy not just a decent regular season record. We'll be fine there.

The flip side to that is imagine how dominant we would be if we had a legitimate running mate to Evans? It also provides a back up to Evans should he not be available. Lets be real...we're 4-3 or worse WITHOUT Evans.

I'm praying that Stribling is that guy for us. Sucks that he got hurt week 1 before we even got a real glimpse of him with Brock in real games.

I saw an add for TO's documentary series on Prime and along with seeing how good our offense has been with Mike at X just reminded me how amazing this scheme can be with that special X receiver to go with trusted guys at the other spots. We haven't had that in so long. Even Aiyuk who I loved before he went crazy was never a guy who you could really just hammer targets to and know he's going to step up and win you the game.

Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:
Quenton Nelson as the all-in move this fanbase is suddenly banging the table for after our first loss (which had nothing to do with the OL—we lost because of turnovers not the OL) is certainly something, lol.

WR and DL are still the two positions we should be looking at.

My move would be 3rd + 4th to the Colts for Buckner + Downs.

After watching the SEA/KC game last night, I am open to QNelson as the splash move on offense. SEA completely shutdown KC's run game that's been so good this season. The SF/SEA was very close and it's not like SF was having a bunch of success offensively outside of one drive - many offensive drives were aided by good field position (turnovers).

Nelson would provide a boost to the run game and passing game (interior pass protection). My only hesitation is that it could be a high price to pay for a rental since I don't see SF paying a lot to extend a guard (Nelson is a pending UFA). Although, with all the between-the-tackle runs and defensive prensnap pressure looks going on around the league nowadays, guards may see an uptick in positional value. If a clear WR upgrade cannot be acquired, Nelson would be a nice consolation prize.

Originally posted by Kolohe:
What CB's could possibly be available for trade? 49ers gotta find a way to stop this short passing game and the only way to do it is with better CB's.

Where the hell is Nate Hobbs?

I like to see what Titans want for Alontae Taylor. He excelled in NO as a slot then signed with Titans. He's been struggling transitioning outside and got benched.

This is what I would prioritize as GM

LG- trade for Quentin and put Colby back on the Bench. If we fix our Oline Brock can cook with just about any receiver group and the run game improves.

Slot CB - we're getting killed when Stout comes out, Demo shifts and Jones goes in at corner. I think a better backup slot is easier to find than another CB. Prysoc might be ready, or maybe not.

Dline-if we're swinging hard then sure get Simmons, lesser DBuck. Saleh loves his linemen in don't see him trading. He's getting a top pick next year as it is. Who wouldn't love Max C , not going to happen. Mack- Harbs not giving up and not trading with his old team.

Wilson/Thomas/other top WR - seems too tough to unlock one of those at the price and lots of competition.

First, i wanna say we have historically played bad in Atlanta. Our last Win was the NFC Championship in 2013, and our last regular season win was in 2001. I had a feeling this was the game we'll lose before the Bye Week. It was Atlanta's 3rd Home game in a row, and knowing how inconsistent we play in Atlanta I was expecting it.

Offense was moving the ball, Brock made two bad throws, Defensive Scheme was horrible, and the guys just couldn't hold onto the ball. With how many WRs we have returning after the Bye Week its not a big need for me. Evans, Deebo & Robinson should all be back after the Bye, and then followed with Stribling Week 13-14. If anything, after yesterday Loss, Defense should be priority number one.

Realistic Trade Scenario

49ers receive: DT DeForest Buckner

Colts receive: 2027 3rd-round draft pick (becomes a 2nd-round pick if the 49ers reach the NFC Championship Game and Buckner plays 50%+ of defensive snaps)

ALL IN Trade Scenario #1

49ers receive: DT DeForest Buckner

Colts receive: 2027 3rd-round draft pick (becomes a 2nd-round pick if the 49ers reach the NFC Championship Game and Buckner plays 50%+ of defensive snaps)

49ers receive: WR Garrett Wilson

Jets receive: 2027 1st-Round Pick, 2028 2nd-Round Pick, and 2028 4th-Round Pick

ALL IN Trade Scenario #2

49ers receive: DT DeForest Buckner

Colts receive: 2027 3rd-round draft pick (becomes a 2nd-round pick if the 49ers reach the NFC Championship Game and Buckner plays 50%+ of defensive snaps)

49ers receive: EDGE Khalil Mack

Chargers receive: 2027 5th-round draft pick (becomes a 4th-round pick if Mack hits 6+ sacks with San Francisco or the 49ers make the NFC Championship game)

Trade Summary

#1 - Gives us a nasty 1-2 punch with Evans & Wilson, and also solidifies our interior D-Line with Buckner returning.

#2 - IF we were to go all in, this would be my choice. Totally alters our D-Line for the final stretch of the Season, and a D-Line of
Bosa-Osa-DeForest-Mack would be at the top of the NFL. Then you can keep the rotation with the young guys (Height, Halton, Valdez)

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:
Quenton Nelson as the all-in move this fanbase is suddenly banging the table for after our first loss (which had nothing to do with the OL—we lost because of turnovers not the OL) is certainly something, lol.

WR and DL are still the two positions we should be looking at.

My move would be 3rd + 4th to the Colts for Buckner + Downs.

After watching the SEA/KC game last night, I am open to QNelson as the splash move on offense. SEA completely shutdown KC's run game that's been so good this season. The SF/SEA was very close and it's not like SF was having a bunch of success offensively outside of one drive - many offensive drives were aided by good field position (turnovers).

Nelson would provide a boost to the run game and passing game (interior pass protection). My only hesitation is that it could be a high price to pay for a rental since I don't see SF paying a lot to extend a guard (Nelson is a pending UFA). Although, with all the between-the-tackle runs and defensive prensnap pressure looks going on around the league nowadays, guards may see an uptick in positional value. If a clear WR upgrade cannot be acquired, Nelson would be a nice consolation prize.

I mean don't get me wrong, would I be excited if we traded for an All-Pro guard? Of course! But it just feels like there are many other moves we could make that would be better for this current team. I also don't really like that Nelson is a rental unless we extend him—so if we trade anything more than a 3rd it'll be too much IMO. The Rams did this and it worked but it was for arguably the best edge rusher on the planet (or at least recent best edge rusher on the planet) in Von Miller. Doing more than a 3rd to rent a guard would be nuts no matter how good that guard is.

Colts will probably want more than a 3rd, right? At least some team with the cap space for extension will offer a 2nd I would think.

Originally posted by 707Niners:
First, i wanna say we have historically played bad in Atlanta. Our last Win was the NFC Championship in 2013, and our last regular season win was in 2001. I had a feeling this was the game we'll lose before the Bye Week. It was Atlanta's 3rd Home game in a row, and knowing how inconsistent we play in Atlanta I was expecting it.

Offense was moving the ball, Brock made two bad throws, Defensive Scheme was horrible, and the guys just couldn't hold onto the ball. With how many WRs we have returning after the Bye Week its not a big need for me. Evans, Deebo & Robinson should all be back after the Bye, and then followed with Stribling Week 13-14. If anything, after yesterday Loss, Defense should be priority number one.

Realistic Trade Scenario

49ers receive: DT DeForest Buckner

Colts receive: 2027 3rd-round draft pick (becomes a 2nd-round pick if the 49ers reach the NFC Championship Game and Buckner plays 50%+ of defensive snaps)

ALL IN Trade Scenario #1

49ers receive: DT DeForest Buckner

Colts receive: 2027 3rd-round draft pick (becomes a 2nd-round pick if the 49ers reach the NFC Championship Game and Buckner plays 50%+ of defensive snaps)

49ers receive: WR Garrett Wilson

Jets receive: 2027 1st-Round Pick, 2028 2nd-Round Pick, and 2028 4th-Round Pick

ALL IN Trade Scenario #2

49ers receive: DT DeForest Buckner

Colts receive: 2027 3rd-round draft pick (becomes a 2nd-round pick if the 49ers reach the NFC Championship Game and Buckner plays 50%+ of defensive snaps)

49ers receive: EDGE Khalil Mack

Chargers receive: 2027 5th-round draft pick (becomes a 4th-round pick if Mack hits 6+ sacks with San Francisco or the 49ers make the NFC Championship game)

Trade Summary

#1 - Gives us a nasty 1-2 punch with Evans & Wilson, and also solidifies our interior D-Line with Buckner returning.

#2 - IF we were to go all in, this would be my choice. Totally alters our D-Line for the final stretch of the Season, and a D-Line of
Bosa-Osa-DeForest-Mack would be at the top of the NFL. Then you can keep the rotation with the young guys (Height, Halton, Valdez)

Let's not forget All-In Trade #3:

Jeffrey Simmons

Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:
Let's not forget All-In Trade #3:

Jeffrey Simmons

I actually thought about that, but looking at his contract it doesn't look realistic for the long run.

lol all teams want the same guys we want so I'm preparing we end up with none of them