AI review of the 2020 to 2025 drafts

This is better than the guy who said Lynch can't draft and posted drafts from the past 25 years.

Originally posted by Hysterikal:
This is better than the guy who said Lynch can't draft and posted drafts from the past 25 years.

Then he got mad when people called him out for posting irrelevant data.

If you want a real quality answer in terms of success you'll need to reasonably define success.

The sample size should be the entire tenure and compared equally to all other teams in that span.

Do that, and you'll get a better measure of comparison imo. But this is better at least than the guy who posted drafts that Lynch had no part in lol

Originally posted by OnTheClock:
If you want a real quality answer in terms of success you'll need to reasonably define success.

The sample size should be the entire tenure and compared equally to all other teams in that span.

Do that, and you'll get a better measure of comparison imo. But this is better at least than the guy who posted drafts that Lynch had no part in lol

Right now it's 76-66 in the regular season and 0-2 in the superbowl

Originally posted by Hysterikal:
This is better than the guy who said Lynch can't draft and posted drafts from the past 25 years.

Lol

That's so bad

Originally posted by AJinUT:
Just because I am playing around with AI, I asked it to review the 49ers drafts from 2020 to 2025 and to give each a grade and overall grade. This is what came back. I actually think it gives a fair evaluation. I have something to say with the last point. Thoughts?

"The San Francisco 49ers' drafts from 2020 to 2025 have been a mixed bag, characterized by both successful late-round finds and questionable early-round choices and evaluations, leading to an overall grade that is generally considered average or slightly above average (overall consensus C+ to B-).

Year-by-Year Draft Review (2020-2025)
2020 Draft: Characterized by DepthNotable Picks: Javon Kinlaw (DT, R1), Brandon Aiyuk (WR, R1), Fred Warner (LB, R3, drafted in 2018 but worth noting as a success for the regime), Jauan Jennings (WR, R7).Review: The 2020 draft class provided long-term starters and key contributors, particularly Aiyuk, who has become an elite receiver. Kinlaw was a first-round pick who was a solid run defender but never developed into the elite pass rusher the team hoped for.Grade: B+

2021 Draft: The Trey Lance TradeNotable Picks: Trey Lance (QB, R1 - acquired via trade-up), Talanoa Hufanga (S, R5), Elijah Mitchell (RB, R6).Review: This class is largely defined by the trade for Trey Lance, which involved significant draft capital (three first-round picks). Lance's tenure was brief due to injury and performance, ultimately resulting in a trade. However, late-round picks like Hufanga and Mitchell have been valuable starters. The draft capital expenditure for Lance weighs this class down significantly.Grade: D+

2022 Draft: Mid-Round FocusNotable Picks: Drake Jackson (DE, R2), Tyrion Davis-Price (RB, R3), Brock Purdy (QB, R7 - "Mr. Irrelevant").Review: A largely forgettable draft with limited impact players early on. Drake Jackson has had an inconsistent career, and Davis-Price was a disappointment. The saving grace, and perhaps the greatest late-round steal in NFL history, was Brock Purdy, an MVP candidate and Pro Bowler who transformed the franchise's QB situation.Grade: C (Purdy's success prevents an F)

2023 Draft: Questionable ValueNotable Picks: Ji'Ayir Brown (S, R3), Jake Moody (K, R3).Review: The 49ers had no first- or second-round picks due to previous trades. The third-round picks have been hit-or-miss. Brown has shown promise, but selecting a kicker in the third round was widely criticized as a reach in terms of draft value. Experts noted this class as part of a period where the team struggled with evaluation.Grade: C-

2024 Draft: Solid AdditionsNotable Picks: Ricky Pearsall (WR, R1), Dominick Puni (OL, R2), Renardo Green (CB, R2), Isaac Guerendo (RB, R4).Review: This class was generally well-received. Pearsall was seen as a polished receiver, and the team addressed needs on the offensive and defensive lines and in the secondary. Early grades were positive, mostly B to B+.Grade: B

2025 Draft: Addressing the DefenseNotable Picks: Mykel Williams (DE, R1), Alfred Collins (DT, R2), Nick Martin (LB, R3), CJ West (DT, R4).Review: With many veteran defensive players leaving in free agency, the 49ers focused heavily on defense with their first five picks. While some analysts praised the addressing of needs, others felt the team reached on several players, particularly in the third round. The overall sentiment suggests potential but also significant risk.Grade: C+

Overall Grade
The San Francisco 49ers' drafting period from 2020 to 2025 reflects a front office (John Lynch and Kyle Shanahan) that has made significant evaluation errors in the early rounds (Kinlaw, Lance, Jackson) but has also found elite, transformative talent in the middle and late rounds (Aiyuk, Purdy, Hufanga). Their willingness to "march to the beat of their own evaluations" has produced both major successes and significant busts.
Overall Grade: C+
The success of players like Brock Purdy and Brandon Aiyuk elevates the overall performance; without them, the draft history would appear much weaker due to the high-profile misses and the immense capital spent on the Trey Lance situation. The team's ability to remain highly competitive and reach Super Bowls during this period suggests a solid roster-building process despite inconsistent drafting."

That last sentence where it says "The Team's ability to remain highly competitive and reach Super Bowls during this period suggests a solid roster-building process despite inconsistent drafting" is concerning to me. I have to say I agree with the statement and that really scares me. IF Jed York and ownership is saying build from the draft and in reality the results are mixed, what does that mean for the future of the team? I don't see Lynch and Shanahan changing their approach, do you? Do you think they and the front office have what it takes to really pick the players needed to move the team back into an elite status over the next couple of years? Finally, what did you think of the AI analysis?

Cool analysis from someone not known for nuance(I'm sure some posters on here will love that aspect of it)

Curious which AI did you use for this and did you ask it to analyze how the 49ers tacked up vs other teams during that period? I'd also have it evaluate trades from the team at that point since they play into the draft in terms of picks being used.

Overall I think the biggest disaster of that period was the Lance pick and even more so the trade. I still don't blame the team for going for it but with hindsight and getting the vibe that they weren't really sold on anyone and knowing that if they wanted Mac Jones he was available at our original pick(not sure why anyone would think they'd have to go up to 3 for him honestly) have to wonder where we'd be right now if we did just that - if not drafting someone like Parsons or Slater and kept those picks.

Originally posted by AJinUT:
Just because I am playing around with AI, I asked it to review the 49ers drafts from 2020 to 2025 and to give each a grade and overall grade. This is what came back. I actually think it gives a fair evaluation. I have something to say with the last point. Thoughts?

"The San Francisco 49ers' drafts from 2020 to 2025 have been a mixed bag, characterized by both successful late-round finds and questionable early-round choices and evaluations, leading to an overall grade that is generally considered average or slightly above average (overall consensus C+ to B-).

Year-by-Year Draft Review (2020-2025)
2020 Draft: Characterized by DepthNotable Picks: Javon Kinlaw (DT, R1), Brandon Aiyuk (WR, R1), Fred Warner (LB, R3, drafted in 2018 but worth noting as a success for the regime), Jauan Jennings (WR, R7).Review: The 2020 draft class provided long-term starters and key contributors, particularly Aiyuk, who has become an elite receiver. Kinlaw was a first-round pick who was a solid run defender but never developed into the elite pass rusher the team hoped for.Grade: B+

2021 Draft: The Trey Lance TradeNotable Picks: Trey Lance (QB, R1 - acquired via trade-up), Talanoa Hufanga (S, R5), Elijah Mitchell (RB, R6).Review: This class is largely defined by the trade for Trey Lance, which involved significant draft capital (three first-round picks). Lance's tenure was brief due to injury and performance, ultimately resulting in a trade. However, late-round picks like Hufanga and Mitchell have been valuable starters. The draft capital expenditure for Lance weighs this class down significantly.Grade: D+

2022 Draft: Mid-Round FocusNotable Picks: Drake Jackson (DE, R2), Tyrion Davis-Price (RB, R3), Brock Purdy (QB, R7 - "Mr. Irrelevant").Review: A largely forgettable draft with limited impact players early on. Drake Jackson has had an inconsistent career, and Davis-Price was a disappointment. The saving grace, and perhaps the greatest late-round steal in NFL history, was Brock Purdy, an MVP candidate and Pro Bowler who transformed the franchise's QB situation.Grade: C (Purdy's success prevents an F)

2023 Draft: Questionable ValueNotable Picks: Ji'Ayir Brown (S, R3), Jake Moody (K, R3).Review: The 49ers had no first- or second-round picks due to previous trades. The third-round picks have been hit-or-miss. Brown has shown promise, but selecting a kicker in the third round was widely criticized as a reach in terms of draft value. Experts noted this class as part of a period where the team struggled with evaluation.Grade: C-

2024 Draft: Solid AdditionsNotable Picks: Ricky Pearsall (WR, R1), Dominick Puni (OL, R2), Renardo Green (CB, R2), Isaac Guerendo (RB, R4).Review: This class was generally well-received. Pearsall was seen as a polished receiver, and the team addressed needs on the offensive and defensive lines and in the secondary. Early grades were positive, mostly B to B+.Grade: B

2025 Draft: Addressing the DefenseNotable Picks: Mykel Williams (DE, R1), Alfred Collins (DT, R2), Nick Martin (LB, R3), CJ West (DT, R4).Review: With many veteran defensive players leaving in free agency, the 49ers focused heavily on defense with their first five picks. While some analysts praised the addressing of needs, others felt the team reached on several players, particularly in the third round. The overall sentiment suggests potential but also significant risk.Grade: C+

Overall Grade
The San Francisco 49ers' drafting period from 2020 to 2025 reflects a front office (John Lynch and Kyle Shanahan) that has made significant evaluation errors in the early rounds (Kinlaw, Lance, Jackson) but has also found elite, transformative talent in the middle and late rounds (Aiyuk, Purdy, Hufanga). Their willingness to "march to the beat of their own evaluations" has produced both major successes and significant busts.
Overall Grade: C+
The success of players like Brock Purdy and Brandon Aiyuk elevates the overall performance; without them, the draft history would appear much weaker due to the high-profile misses and the immense capital spent on the Trey Lance situation. The team's ability to remain highly competitive and reach Super Bowls during this period suggests a solid roster-building process despite inconsistent drafting."

That last sentence where it says "The Team's ability to remain highly competitive and reach Super Bowls during this period suggests a solid roster-building process despite inconsistent drafting" is concerning to me. I have to say I agree with the statement and that really scares me. IF Jed York and ownership is saying build from the draft and in reality the results are mixed, what does that mean for the future of the team? I don't see Lynch and Shanahan changing their approach, do you? Do you think they and the front office have what it takes to really pick the players needed to move the team back into an elite status over the next couple of years? Finally, what did you think of the AI analysis?

Proof that AI is ruining the world lol

Thats cool. I've done my own research on the topic and compared to the rest of the league I've found the 49ers are one of the better teams at drafting. It would be cool to do your same analysis but from 2017 to now and for each team.

I'm amazed at how many people on here think other NFL teams are drafting multiple pro bowl caliber players every draft. In reality you're lucky to even get 3 average players per draft.

Originally posted by miked1978:
Thats cool. I've done my own research on the topic and compared to the rest of the league I've found the 49ers are one of the better teams at drafting. It would be cool to do your same analysis but from 2017 to now and for each team.

I'm amazed at how many people on here think other NFL teams are drafting multiple pro bowl caliber players every draft. In reality you're lucky to even get 3 average players per draft.

Reality is most picks outside the top 75 never become starters. Certainly day 3 picks becoming starters shouldn't be an expectation.

So, we are relying on AI to post analysis for us...on a message board?

I don't need AI to see how bad that is.....

Originally posted by fropwns:
So, we are relying on AI to post analysis for us...on a message board?

Just a fun exercise . . . I will say this. Most companies are now using AI in so many ways and not Gemni or ChapGPT. They have actual AI's built around what they do and it is highly effective. In some sectors you are beginning to say layoffs due to AI. One that I've consultated on, customer service and tech support is being gradually replaced with AI designed to get to solutions at a much faster rate then the human. It's a change and the change is coming.

For here, again, I ran the exercise just to see what it said and ask others their opinion on it using Google Gemni. It was just for fun not an serious analysis. I also agree I don't need Gemni or ChatGPT to tell me what the story has been over the last 5 years. Not doing since 2017 because after 5 years in the NFL too much changes right now. Over that time my analysis is that the Niners have made some good moves, and used draft picks to get a Williams and a McAffery, but the actual players they draft, it is very hit and miss. My final take is that moving forward if the team is in a rebuild and are getting younger and more affordable through the draft, which seems to be Jed York's direction to the organization, then they need to improve on who they are selecting. They need to nail the draft.