49ers select Alfred Collins-DT-Texas with the 43rd pick in the 2025 NFL Draft

Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:

Originally posted by jonnydel:
So, like I posted in the Mykel Williams thread - I watched all of Collins's tape at Texas from this past season. Fire away with any questions y'all got. I couldn't post the video I made of it on YT because of some dubious copyright issues.

What seems to be his main weakness? Is he gotta have pad level issues like Kinlaw?

Main weakness is he's a little slow of foot for pass rush and doesn't have a lot of moves. He was the premiere run defending IDL in the draft. Gobs of power at the point, strong awareness, great length to control the engagement. But, he's not gonna jab step and go around many guards. He's a blunt force object.

Originally posted by jonnydel:
So, like I posted in the Mykel Williams thread - I watched all of Collins's tape at Texas from this past season. Fire away with any questions y'all got. I couldn't post the video I made of it on YT because of some dubious copyright issues.

Do you think he's going to be a starter in the NFL?

Originally posted by jonnydel:

Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:

Originally posted by jonnydel:
So, like I posted in the Mykel Williams thread - I watched all of Collins's tape at Texas from this past season. Fire away with any questions y'all got. I couldn't post the video I made of it on YT because of some dubious copyright issues.

What seems to be his main weakness? Is he gotta have pad level issues like Kinlaw?

Main weakness is he's a little slow of foot for pass rush and doesn't have a lot of moves. He was the premiere run defending IDL in the draft. Gobs of power at the point, strong awareness, great length to control the engagement. But, he's not gonna jab step and go around many guards. He's a blunt force object.

We can live that. His main role should be a run stuffing DT, and if he develops as a pass rusher, that's just a bonus.

I know DT is one of the hardest positions to learn as a rookie, so hopefully he can at least be a good rotational player next year. Not expecting him to be Ngata his first year, but by year 3 hopefully he can at least be a a great run stuffer at the least.

Originally posted by jonnydel:

Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:

Originally posted by jonnydel:
So, like I posted in the Mykel Williams thread - I watched all of Collins's tape at Texas from this past season. Fire away with any questions y'all got. I couldn't post the video I made of it on YT because of some dubious copyright issues.

What seems to be his main weakness? Is he gotta have pad level issues like Kinlaw?

Main weakness is he's a little slow of foot for pass rush and doesn't have a lot of moves. He was the premiere run defending IDL in the draft. Gobs of power at the point, strong awareness, great length to control the engagement. But, he's not gonna jab step and go around many guards. He's a blunt force object.

To me he was an absolute run defense solution with potential to be better and do more, rather than going for a IDL with better pass rush but less run defense out the gate.

My daughter is a UT student so I watched more than usual, and it looked to me like the coaches approach to run defense was 3/5ths Collins and 2/5th the rest of the defense mopping up. At the same time they didn't really scheme him any pass rush games. It will be interesting what he can become in a few years.

Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:

Originally posted by jonnydel:
So, like I posted in the Mykel Williams thread - I watched all of Collins's tape at Texas from this past season. Fire away with any questions y'all got. I couldn't post the video I made of it on YT because of some dubious copyright issues.

Do you think he's going to be a starter in the NFL?

I think there is no question of that. My questions are more about his role as a rookie.

Originally posted by Scoots:

Originally posted by jonnydel:

Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:

Originally posted by jonnydel:
So, like I posted in the Mykel Williams thread - I watched all of Collins's tape at Texas from this past season. Fire away with any questions y'all got. I couldn't post the video I made of it on YT because of some dubious copyright issues.

What seems to be his main weakness? Is he gotta have pad level issues like Kinlaw?

Main weakness is he's a little slow of foot for pass rush and doesn't have a lot of moves. He was the premiere run defending IDL in the draft. Gobs of power at the point, strong awareness, great length to control the engagement. But, he's not gonna jab step and go around many guards. He's a blunt force object.

To me he was an absolute run defense solution with potential to be better and do more, rather than going for a IDL with better pass rush but less run defense out the gate.

My daughter is a UT student so I watched more than usual, and it looked to me like the coaches approach to run defense was 3/5ths Collins and 2/5th the rest of the defense mopping up. At the same time they didn't really scheme him any pass rush games. It will be interesting what he can become in a few years.

Very much so. He was tasked with soaking up a lot of double teams and controlling the point of attack. I didn't see any other IDL with the kind of control he has in the run game. He never played out of control. He would control the engagement, located the ball carrier and hold his man(men) to clog up the lane or disengage once the RB committed. Rarely, if ever, did he look like he was battling for position or to keep himself from getting moved.

You're also correct about the pass rush games. He was off the field on a lot of 3rd and passing situations where they used other guys. So, some of his lack of production is lack of opportunities. He wasn't a "play the run on the way to the QB" kind of player. It was, "play the run, then try and get a push on the QB".

Originally posted by Scoots:

Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:

Originally posted by jonnydel:
So, like I posted in the Mykel Williams thread - I watched all of Collins's tape at Texas from this past season. Fire away with any questions y'all got. I couldn't post the video I made of it on YT because of some dubious copyright issues.

Do you think he's going to be a starter in the NFL?

I think there is no question of that. My questions are more about his role as a rookie.

He'll be a day-1 starter at IDL. I think we're going to see a situation very much like 2019. 1st, 2nd and 3rd and short downs will be Bosa - Collins - Elliot/West - Mykel. 3rd and passing with be Bosa - not sure - Mykel - Huff.

Originally posted by jonnydel:

Originally posted by Scoots:

Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:

Originally posted by jonnydel:
So, like I posted in the Mykel Williams thread - I watched all of Collins's tape at Texas from this past season. Fire away with any questions y'all got. I couldn't post the video I made of it on YT because of some dubious copyright issues.

Do you think he's going to be a starter in the NFL?

I think there is no question of that. My questions are more about his role as a rookie.

He'll be a day-1 starter at IDL. I think we're going to see a situation very much like 2019. 1st, 2nd and 3rd and short downs will be Bosa - Collins - Elliot/West - Mykel. 3rd and passing with be Bosa - not sure - Mykel - Huff.

Yeah ... my questions about his role as a rookie is whether that "not sure" on passing downs is Collins or not.

I also think Collins and West are fairly mature for college run defenders so they will probably want them playing together as much as possible, so I could see them starting and platooning with each other early with Saleh liking a deep line rotation.

Originally posted by jonnydel:
He'll be a day-1 starter at IDL. I think we're going to see a situation very much like 2019. 1st, 2nd and 3rd and short downs will be Bosa - Collins - Elliot/West - Mykel. 3rd and passing with be Bosa - not sure - Mykel - Huff.

My thinking as well

With his height how is his pad level?

Originally posted by lamontb:
With his height how is his pad level?

Good, not great. His base is really solid, and he was not getting moved off his spot in college.

Haven't heard much of anything with him

Originally posted by NYniner85:
Haven't heard much of anything with him

Definitely a slower start than West. Some because he was coming back from an injury, and some because he missed all the prep before now.

From Training camp ending to the start of the season is where I expect Collins, West, and Williams will be getting non-stop pass rush help. Once the roster gets cut down to the group going forward and the expectation is that most of the offense and defense is installed there is more time for small groups to work with position coaches.

Unfortunately once the season starts each week becomes almost exclusively about staying healthy and prep for the next game.

Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:

Originally posted by jonnydel:

Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:

Originally posted by jonnydel:
So, like I posted in the Mykel Williams thread - I watched all of Collins's tape at Texas from this past season. Fire away with any questions y'all got. I couldn't post the video I made of it on YT because of some dubious copyright issues.

What seems to be his main weakness? Is he gotta have pad level issues like Kinlaw?

Main weakness is he's a little slow of foot for pass rush and doesn't have a lot of moves. He was the premiere run defending IDL in the draft. Gobs of power at the point, strong awareness, great length to control the engagement. But, he's not gonna jab step and go around many guards. He's a blunt force object.

We can live that. His main role should be a run stuffing DT, and if he develops as a pass rusher, that's just a bonus.

I know DT is one of the hardest positions to learn as a rookie, so hopefully he can at least be a good rotational player next year. Not expecting him to be Ngata his first year, but by year 3 hopefully he can at least be a a great run stuffer at the least.

I don't think this guy will ever be a pass rusher, maybe if he develops a bull rush he can push the pocket back.

Originally posted by Since07:

Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:

Originally posted by jonnydel:

Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:

Originally posted by jonnydel:
So, like I posted in the Mykel Williams thread - I watched all of Collins's tape at Texas from this past season. Fire away with any questions y'all got. I couldn't post the video I made of it on YT because of some dubious copyright issues.

What seems to be his main weakness? Is he gotta have pad level issues like Kinlaw?

Main weakness is he's a little slow of foot for pass rush and doesn't have a lot of moves. He was the premiere run defending IDL in the draft. Gobs of power at the point, strong awareness, great length to control the engagement. But, he's not gonna jab step and go around many guards. He's a blunt force object.

We can live that. His main role should be a run stuffing DT, and if he develops as a pass rusher, that's just a bonus.

I know DT is one of the hardest positions to learn as a rookie, so hopefully he can at least be a good rotational player next year. Not expecting him to be Ngata his first year, but by year 3 hopefully he can at least be a a great run stuffer at the least.

I don't think this guy will ever be a pass rusher, maybe if he develops a bull rush he can push the pocket back.

I don't think he'll ever get 15 in a season, but 6-9 is not too far out there. He's still big, strong, and long. He sheds blocks great, and that's a big skill to have in pass rush. His pass rush at UT was just not something they asked for. It was maintain the line, read, read, read, attack the run, if all runners were out of the backfield then make sure the QB wasn't running, THEN see if he could get to the QB, but make sure you stay in front of the QB on the way to be able to obscure their vision and have a chance to bat a ball down. At least that's what it seemed like. Essentially no pass rush coaching (apparently) as well as a scheme that was a non-pass rush scheme for him.

If nothing else he got, IIRC, 7 PBUs in his last year at UT which is a significant stat in pass defense. hehe, just looked it up and yeah, 7 last year ... same number as Mooney Ward got last year.