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Originally posted by Since07:
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
In theory it is so smart not to pay guards. Most top guards in the league are taken in the 3rd round and look at that you get a 3rd round comp when your Guard gets paid. In theory
This reminds me of trading Buckner for Kinlaw
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Originally posted by Since07:
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
In theory it is so smart not to pay guards. Most top guards in the league are taken in the 3rd round and look at that you get a 3rd round comp when your Guard gets paid. In theory
This reminds me of trading Buckner for Kinlaw
In theory it makes sense. Practically it requires hitting on your picks and that's been an issue
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
In theory it is so smart not to pay guards. Most top guards in the league are taken in the 3rd round and look at that you get a 3rd round comp when your Guard gets paid. In theory
Originally posted by dj43:
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
In theory it is so smart not to pay guards. Most top guards in the league are taken in the 3rd round and look at that you get a 3rd round comp when your Guard gets paid. In theory
So, having nothing else to do this afternoon, I checked out the data. I was somewhat surprised. In short, the best Guards are picked early and get paid well.
You are correct but if you add 1st and 2nd round together it doesn't work. Here is the breakdown of the top 20, and 21-40 ranked guards and where they were drafted (PFF).
Top 20:
Rd 1 - 3
Rd 2 - 4
Rd 3 - 7
Rd 4 - 1
Rd 5 - 1
Rd 6 - 3
Rd 7 - 0
UDFA - 2
21-40
Rd 1 - 5
Rd 2 - 5
Rd 3 - 3
Rd 4 - 2
Rd 5 - 2
Rd 6 - 0
Rd 7 - 2
UDFA - 2
Pay scale shows the top paid Guards with 9 getting $20,000,000+/year. (overthecap)
$15,000,000+ = 10
$10,000,000+ = 7
I'd give Puni 15M, you don't break this OL especially if Trent plays next year. Brendal is the real "?" Took him 5 years to properly command Kyles offense and is now 34 years old 
but he's playing at such a high level coordinating the OL you have to run it back. Cant remember where I heard/read it but a cerebral Center is key to Shannahans offense
Originally posted by jakedogg:
Starts his 4th season next year. Trade him for a 3rd round draft pick to a team willing to give him the big money. Move Colby to RG and give the money to Quenton Nelson-3 years. Nelson will be motivated-too much losing. Might not go for top dollar like a 28 year old. No big injury history and it can become a 1 year to year contract at age 34. Purdy's protection guaranteed.
Originally posted by LifelongNiner:
Originally posted by jakedogg:
Starts his 4th season next year. Trade him for a 3rd round draft pick to a team willing to give him the big money. Move Colby to RG and give the money to Quenton Nelson-3 years. Nelson will be motivated-too much losing. Might not go for top dollar like a 28 year old. No big injury history and it can become a 1 year to year contract at age 34. Purdy's protection guaranteed.
Finally get a young impact player and you say trade him? It took too long to get to this point. If we build a wall around Brock, he's going to the Hall of Fame. Keep Puni. Get a mauler center that you can develop. I'd love to get the a point where 3rd and 3 or less is an automatic. This is also no disrespect to Nelson.
Originally posted by jakedogg:
Starts his 4th season next year. Trade him for a 3rd round draft pick to a team willing to give him the big money. Move Colby to RG and give the money to Quenton Nelson-3 years. Nelson will be motivated-too much losing. Might not go for top dollar like a 28 year old. No big injury history and it can become a 1 year to year contract at age 34. Purdy's protection guaranteed.
Originally posted by dj43:Not sure if we can get quin, but I don't think Puni will be easy to keep either
Originally posted by jakedogg:
Starts his 4th season next year. Trade him for a 3rd round draft pick to a team willing to give him the big money. Move Colby to RG and give the money to Quenton Nelson-3 years. Nelson will be motivated-too much losing. Might not go for top dollar like a 28 year old. No big injury history and it can become a 1 year to year contract at age 34. Purdy's protection guaranteed.
Puni is going to be the lynchpin of the future for this OL in the same way Nelson has been at Indy. He is not going to be trade bait in hope that he can be replaced at a lower cost.
If you look at the breakdown I listed in the post above, you can see Puni is right where he should be in comparison to the rest of the league. In fact, we might say he is a bargain.
Originally posted by wysiwyg:
Whine, b itch, moan complain. The 49ers don't spend draft capital on offensive line. Tom Brady blah blah blah.
We finally nail it on an offensive linemen and want to trade him. Derp.
I saw Buckner and Kinlaw each made plays this weekend.
Hell, even Colby has stepped up this year. McKivitz is a McGlinchey clone.
I've always been underwhelmed by Brendel but the line has not given up a sack through 4 tames.
Pay the Big Uglies!
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Not sure if we can get quin, but I don't think Puni will be easy to keep either
most of our past OL received bigger deals than what we wanted to pay.. Tomelson, Banks, McGlinch and Moore
Puni is a keeper
Originally posted by dj43:Damn.. time to extend him!
Let me overwhelm you a bit on Brendel.
He is the #5 overall Center in the league. In Pass Protection, he is tied for #2 place with Tyler Linderbaum, the $27,000,000/yr man with the Raiders.
Originally posted by frankieuc68:
Originally posted by dj43:Damn.. time to extend him!
Let me overwhelm you a bit on Brendel.
He is the #5 overall Center in the league. In Pass Protection, he is tied for #2 place with Tyler Linderbaum, the $27,000,000/yr man with the Raiders.
