49ers WR Ricky Pearsall Thread

Originally posted by jdt84_2:

Originally posted by 9moon:
na na na na... my initial post was super clear.. I said Ricky may become an All Pro, but he's NOT a ONE..

Then not even sure if it was YOU who said that AN ALL PRO IS A ONE !!

that's why I said JT was never a ONE... HOLT may have become an HOF just like Stallworth, but they were never a ONE..

I gave u all the players who were ALL PROs but never was a ONE..

If Holt is not a #1, what is YOUR criteria for a #1 WR?

Is/was Davante Adams a #1 WR?

Originally posted by 9moon:
first thing's first... lets' stick to your point of .. IF HE'S AN ALL PRO HE'S A ONE..

HOLT - JOHN TAYLOR - JOHN STALLWORTH - WES CHANDLER - HINES WARD - ANQUAN BOLDIN - REGGIE WAYNE - TIM BROWN were never a ONE in MY OPINION..

Originally posted by miked1978:

Originally posted by Wolf_Packer_53:

Originally posted by jdt84_2:

Originally posted by 9moon:
na na na na... my initial post was super clear.. I said Ricky may become an All Pro, but he's NOT a ONE..

Then not even sure if it was YOU who said that AN ALL PRO IS A ONE !!

that's why I said JT was never a ONE... HOLT may have become an HOF just like Stallworth, but they were never a ONE..

I gave u all the players who were ALL PROs but never was a ONE..

If Holt is not a #1, what is YOUR criteria for a #1 WR?

Is/was Davante Adams a #1 WR?

I'm curious too what his definition of a "ONE" is. I'd consider Torry Holt a #1 WR.

Ain't no telling what a WR1 is for moon but to me a WR1 is a guy who can be the #1 WR for most teams today. Keyword being most. There are several WR1s in today's NFL. Jefferson, Chase, Puka, St Brown, AJ Brown, Lamb just to name a few. If you make the All Pro team then its pretty likely your a #1 in my book. Maybe some exceptions but the majority are #1s hence the all pro nod.

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Originally posted by Since07:
Prime Julio Jones or Megatron are the only "true #1s" in recent history

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
one of my favorites historically that doesn't get talked about is steve smith

Originally posted by jdt84_2:
I doubt it. They are wrecked by Holt in seasons 3-6 and 2-8. Seasons 1-9 Jones has 300 more yards, Johnson has 12 more TDs. But Holt beats each in the other category

Even Jerry Rice struggles againt Torry Holt in each of those windows. TDs are all he consistently wins in(22 in one season will do that) but loses in catches and yards

Originally posted by Scoots:

Originally posted by jdt84_2:
I doubt it. They are wrecked by Holt in seasons 3-6 and 2-8. Seasons 1-9 Jones has 300 more yards, Johnson has 12 more TDs. But Holt beats each in the other category

Even Jerry Rice struggles againt Torry Holt in each of those windows. TDs are all he consistently wins in(22 in one season will do that) but loses in catches and yards

One thing to keep in mind is WR numbers have a lot to do with QB/OL/RB play, who the other WRs/TEs are on the team, offensive scheme, and how bad the defense is.

Originally posted by miked1978:

Originally posted by Scoots:

Originally posted by jdt84_2:
I doubt it. They are wrecked by Holt in seasons 3-6 and 2-8. Seasons 1-9 Jones has 300 more yards, Johnson has 12 more TDs. But Holt beats each in the other category

Even Jerry Rice struggles againt Torry Holt in each of those windows. TDs are all he consistently wins in(22 in one season will do that) but loses in catches and yards

One thing to keep in mind is WR numbers have a lot to do with QB/OL/RB play, who the other WRs/TEs are on the team, offensive scheme, and how bad the defense is.

True but Holt played with Isaac Bruce who many thought was better and Marshall Faulk. He might have got even more targets if those 2 guys weren't on the team. So many factors that can go into the argument.

One can argue Calvin's Johnson's best year was because the Lions didn't even have a legit #2 or #3 WR. He got all the targets because there was no one else to throw it to!!!
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Originally posted by miked1978:

Originally posted by Scoots:

Originally posted by jdt84_2:
I doubt it. They are wrecked by Holt in seasons 3-6 and 2-8. Seasons 1-9 Jones has 300 more yards, Johnson has 12 more TDs. But Holt beats each in the other category

Even Jerry Rice struggles againt Torry Holt in each of those windows. TDs are all he consistently wins in(22 in one season will do that) but loses in catches and yards

One thing to keep in mind is WR numbers have a lot to do with QB/OL/RB play, who the other WRs/TEs are on the team, offensive scheme, and how bad the defense is.

True but Holt played with Isaac Bruce who many thought was better and Marshall Faulk. He might have got even more targets if those 2 guys weren't on the team. So many factors that can go into the argument.

One can argue Calvin's Johnson's best year was because the Lions didn't even have a legit #2 or #3 WR. He got all the targets because there was no one else to throw it to!!!
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Originally posted by Scoots:
One thing to keep in mind is WR numbers have a lot to do with QB/OL/RB play, who the other WRs/TEs are on the team, offensive scheme, and how bad the defense is.

Originally posted by genus49:
Why are we talking about Calvin Johnson and Torry Holt in here? I'm pretty excited about Pearsall this season but I don't think he's on their level yet.

Probably by year 3 tho.

Originally posted by genus49:
Why are we talking about Calvin Johnson and Torry Holt in here? I'm pretty excited about Pearsall this season but I don't think he's on their level yet.

Probably by year 3 tho.

Originally posted by Since07:

Originally posted by genus49:
Why are we talking about Calvin Johnson and Torry Holt in here? I'm pretty excited about Pearsall this season but I don't think he's on their level yet.

Probably by year 3 tho.

9moon was saying Pearsall is an all pro but not a #1 WR then pointed to Torry Holt as an example