49ERS vs Packers Pregame Thread - 2023 Season Divisional Round

Originally posted by Waterbear:
Honestly, if you asked me which QBs I would want to face in the NFC before the playoffs... I would have ranked them like this. (1 = not concerned at all and 6 = the most concerned)

1. Baker
2. Dak
3. Hurts
4. Goff
5. Love
6. Stafford.

That being said, I expect a win. And GB as a team has the least amount of talent of anyone outside the QB position. Like you said, if we can't beat them, we don't deserve to be in the SB.

Meh I'd put love much higher. Basically rookie out there who's playing good ball, mostly against subpar defenses

Originally posted by thl408:
GB had WR wide ass open many times versus DAL. There was a stat shown where DAL played with six DBs on a high majority of the snaps. This allowed GB to run the ball effectively and playaction off of that. Love had so much time to survey downfield after he completed the playaction. Stop the run and force Love into traditional dropbacks. See how he does when he can't playaction.

Offensively, run the ball and force GB to over commit resources defending the run. They have been poor defending the run all season. Then work off of that.

Almost 40% of love's dropbacks were off PA last night.

From what I read he's much worse vs man coverage

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
No he wasn't. I've watched Love all year, on account I made a play for him in a deeper FF league. He had three TD passes week 1. He had 3 TD passes week 2. He had an early season come from behind vs Dennis Allen, who has some pretty good D. He's had ups and downs, but the play has been good. JTO has been doing QB schools all year, and they have been positive all season. Only way you would get to a he's a bust take, is if you listen to the shallow hot takers, I've been liking him all year, and the 2nd half he really started to put it together, tbh I think that's the young receivers also coming into their own.

Dude had a 55% completion percentage and was nearly 1-1 td to pick the first two months.

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by Kolohe:
Wait, so what did Lafleur really say??

I'm saving that!!

Originally posted by JTsBiggestFan:

Originally posted by elguapo:

Originally posted by jimmy3233:
going to boatrace these f**kers...easy win

love is dogs**t...just playing god awful teams with god awful QBs (barely beat RB Fields last game LMFAO)

Yup. He's overrated. Very inconsistent, inaccurate more than you'd like for a starting qb. I'm glad GB will keep him just like I'm so glad the Cowboys will keep Dak or the Seahawks will keep Smith for another year. Just makes it way easier on us

Great points, guap!!

I hadn't considered the fool's gold, Kaepernick in green, that Love could be.

In his last 7 games, Love has completed 70.9% of his passes. 18 TDs, 1 Int. Over that time stretch, he was the top-rated QB in the league!

He ain't fool's gold.

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
No he wasn't. I've watched Love all year, on account I made a play for him in a deeper FF league. He had three TD passes week 1. He had 3 TD passes week 2. He had an early season come from behind vs Dennis Allen, who has some pretty good D. He's had ups and downs, but the play has been good. JTO has been doing QB schools all year, and they have been positive all season. Only way you would get to a he's a bust take, is if you listen to the shallow hot takers, I've been liking him all year, and the 2nd half he really started to put it together, tbh I think that's the young receivers also coming into their own.

Dude had a 55% completion percentage and was nearly 1-1 td to pick the first two months.

Check the QB schools, was he throwing with anticipation? Was he going thru progressions? Was he doing the thing you want to see a QB doing? Newsflash, it's one of the youngest offenses of all time. They are all year 1 and 2 by and large. Love's first year starting. So naturally, took a handful of games, to get it all on the same page. That's the QB and it's the team also, knowing how to run their routes, what the QB is looking for, etc. So you look at stats after the fact, did you watch the games, or the film?

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Check the QB schools, was he throwing with anticipation? Was he going thru progressions? Was he doing the thing you want to see a QB doing? Newsflash, it's one of the youngest offenses of all time. They are all year 1 and 2 by and large. Love's first year starting. So naturally, took a handful of games, to get it all on the same page. That's the QB and it's the team also, knowing how to run their routes, what the QB is looking for, etc. So you look at stats after the fact, did you watch the games, or the film?

Yes I watched the games. He was not throwing with anticipation at all. Was struggling all over the place. That Raiders game was absolutely awful.

Yah young guys play better when they get experience. Imagine that.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Waterbear:
Honestly, if you asked me which QBs I would want to face in the NFC before the playoffs... I would have ranked them like this. (1 = not concerned at all and 6 = the most concerned)

1. Baker
2. Dak
3. Hurts
4. Goff
5. Love
6. Stafford.

That being said, I expect a win. And GB as a team has the least amount of talent of anyone outside the QB position. Like you said, if we can't beat them, we don't deserve to be in the SB.

Meh I'd put love much higher. Basically rookie out there who's playing good ball, mostly against subpar defenses

I would have switched Goff and Hurts if Hurts was healthy.

But ultimately I think QBs who can throw off platform and with different arm angles are the most concerning. Love made a couple throws yesterday that would beat any coverage.

Cohn is riding Jordan Love. Because he likes PHYSICAL attributes. The same reason he thought Sam Darnold was better than Purdy. He looks at height, weight, speed, arm strength. He doesn't understand processing, reads, timing and anticipation, mechanics, decision making, getting the ball out quick and throwing accuracy. It's all physical attributes. Yeah I like Jordan Love but he's been doing it against weak teams for the most part. CJ Stroud is good too. But he doesn't understand the stuff Brock does. He just doesn't get the mental aspect of the game at all.

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Check the QB schools, was he throwing with anticipation? Was he going thru progressions? Was he doing the thing you want to see a QB doing? Newsflash, it's one of the youngest offenses of all time. They are all year 1 and 2 by and large. Love's first year starting. So naturally, took a handful of games, to get it all on the same page. That's the QB and it's the team also, knowing how to run their routes, what the QB is looking for, etc. So you look at stats after the fact, did you watch the games, or the film?

Yes I watched the games. He was not throwing with anticipation at all. Was struggling all over the place. That Raiders game was absolutely awful.

Yah young guys play better when they get experience. Imagine that.

Point is with 6 TDs in 2 starts, to open. he wasn't bad and got better. He started well. Like I say watch JTO he can break it all down for you. He's been throwing with anticipation all year. I would say where he struggles most is accuracy, he missed some shots downfield, and sometimes he's completely pinpoint, sometimes it's not as accurate as you would like. But having a big arm, going thru progressions, throwing before the break, he can do all that, and has all year.

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:

Cohn is riding Jordan Love. Because he likes PHYSICAL attributes. The same reason he thought Sam Darnold was better than Purdy. He looks at height, weight, speed, arm strength. He doesn't understand processing, reads, timing and anticipation, mechanics, decision making, getting the ball out quick and throwing accuracy. It's all physical attributes. Yeah I like Jordan Love but he's been doing it against weak teams for the most part. CJ Stroud is good too. But he doesn't understand the stuff Brock does. He just doesn't get the mental aspect of the game at all.

Cohn and his squad are the type of guys that would have been parading Marino and Elway over Montana.

Originally posted by dj43:

Originally posted by LifelongNiner:

Originally posted by dj43:
In the final four regular season games, the Packer run defense looks like this:

Bucs - 99 yards, 3.7 ave. - season average - 3.4 ave.
Panthers - 96 yards, 3.8 ave, season average - 4 ave
Vikings - 67 yards, 4.2 ave, season average - 4 ave,
Bears - 75 yards, 3.0 ave. season average - 4.5 ave

Tonight, they gave up 123 yards, 4.0 ave. However, Dak got 45 yards for a 7.5 ave. Pollard got 56 yards on 15 carries for 3.7 ave.

All that to say, don't be fooled by season-long numbers. The Packer run defense has been pretty good the last five games, including tonight.

Doesn't look like a running game on that list could really threaten anyone.

No, those are not great teams, but they held them under their average except the Bears, and that was largely Fields, not a traditional RB.

Look at what they did to Pollard last night. He is a very good runner and they held him to 3.7.

Those are some of the worst running offenses in the league…including Dallas. Those numbers don't matter to me at all.

pollard was not good this yr and the game got out of hand quickly. Dallas' D was a mess. Quinn went full Simple Jack.

Originally posted by NYniner85:
Just going on social media and listening to our fans….man a lot of us are sounding like scary p***y cats lol.

It's the playoffs and no team is gonna be complete trash….but we're getting the 7th seed at home! They barely made the playoffs. They squeaked by the panthers and Bears. They lost to Tampa and the freaking Giants. The beat a Nick Mullens lead team

People acting like they're some top end team are complete out of touch with who they played.

maybe I'm too confident, but if we can't beat these dudes we have no business going/winning the SB anyway

The 49ers ARE the better team. However, I would argue the Packers were playing the best ball of any NFC team heading into the playoffs. Yes, they beat some bad teams and lost a couple of head-scratchers to NYG and Tampa but they also beat KC and Detroit WITHOUT Aaron Jones (weeks 12 & 13). In week 9, they stomped the Rams 20-3.

GB is a young team coming together at just the right time. Everyone is underestimating them which will keep them loose. That makes them dangerous.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by dj43:

Originally posted by LifelongNiner:

Originally posted by dj43:
In the final four regular season games, the Packer run defense looks like this:

Bucs - 99 yards, 3.7 ave. - season average - 3.4 ave.
Panthers - 96 yards, 3.8 ave, season average - 4 ave
Vikings - 67 yards, 4.2 ave, season average - 4 ave,
Bears - 75 yards, 3.0 ave. season average - 4.5 ave

Tonight, they gave up 123 yards, 4.0 ave. However, Dak got 45 yards for a 7.5 ave. Pollard got 56 yards on 15 carries for 3.7 ave.

All that to say, don't be fooled by season-long numbers. The Packer run defense has been pretty good the last five games, including tonight.

Doesn't look like a running game on that list could really threaten anyone.

No, those are not great teams, but they held them under their average except the Bears, and that was largely Fields, not a traditional RB.

Look at what they did to Pollard last night. He is a very good runner and they held him to 3.7.

Those are some of the worst running offenses in the league…including Dallas. Those numbers don't matter to me at all.

pollard was not good this yr and the game got out of hand quickly. Dallas' D was a mess. Quinn went full Simple Jack.

Agreed. The Cowboys messed up thinking Pollard was a RB1. He can't take a full workload. They needed another starting caliber back.

Originally posted by dj43:
The 49ers ARE the better team. However, I would argue the Packers were playing the best ball of any NFC team heading into the playoffs. Yes, they beat some bad teams and lost a couple of head-scratchers to NYG and Tampa but they also beat KC and Detroit WITHOUT Aaron Jones (weeks 12 & 13). In week 9, they stomped the Rams 20-3.

GB is a young team coming together at just the right time. Everyone is underestimating them which will keep them loose. That makes them dangerous.

What I think should open the most eyes is the D. Kenny Clark can play. Gary can play. Quay Walker and Wyatt are round 1 so is Van Ness, they have a secondary. So I see bad season ranks, and very good D players. They pretty much throttled DAL, their D vs the #1 scoring O. Including a pick 6. Preston Smith and Campbell are good. So it's a better group of talent than their ranks would indicate.