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Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Originally posted by JoseCortez:
All this restructuring is just delaying the inevitable- cap hell

Absolutely. You can't restructure forever. Sooner or later the players get paid. Check the salaries for next season and you'll see 6 players scheduled to make over $20 million. I haven't seen Bosa's new contract details but if his salary is about $25 million next year then they have about $157 million tied up with 6 players. I know they're going to restructure but that's stili. a lot of work to fit them under the cap. We may see a couple of players traded or released.
the only time restructures hurt your cap is when that player is no longer on the team
Originally posted by Niners418:
Originally posted by Jakemall:
Players come and go. If you have a blueprint and a strong reputation the window doesn't close for a long time. Look how long the Patriots kept the window open.

Agreed....even with the Chiefts...they had to make a tough decision and move on from Tyreek. Then they go on to win the SB. I hope Aiyuk can be kept long term but if not, we'll address the position.

We can't keep everyone.....there will be guys let go....but I think we can sustain this especially if Purdy is real.

Having the best QB In the league sure helps keep the window open.

I think having purdy and Kyle should help keep us competitive for a long time Tbh.

With that being said, it's unlikely we'll see a 9ers team with this much talent on It, especially once Purdy gets paid.

Now Is as good as time as ever for us to win a super bowl Imo.
The window is always open as long as talent gets replaced with talent.
Despite the Trey Lance fiasco, they are in a good position when Brock Purdy keeps getting better (it's not an if, he will just improve).
Next season they have their full draft capital again. They will get extra third for Demeco and another for Jimmy G, an extra 4th for Lance. Players will leave and be replaced by more talent.
If Greenlaw prices himself to high, Winters or Graham would have developed to take his place.
When Trent retires in a couple of years, they will have had drafted his replacement. Most likely not as great as Trent, but at least pretty good.
The replacement for Gibson is already in the building.
The new FB is grooming in the PS.
2023 roster is very different from the 2019 roster, it's much better.
Arik Armstead most likely will leave, but it's not like he should be difficult to replace.
Deebo or Aiyuk could leave, but there's no difficulty in finding receivers in today NFL, every class comes loaded with receiver talent.
As long as there's good drafting and good coaching, the window is wide open forever.
mods pls merge this donnie downer thread with the "are we embarrassed of the f/o" tarded thread
When was the first ride?
As long as Purdy is legit, Bosa is healthy, and Shanahan is running the offense, our window will remain open. We have kept replenishing the roster over the years.
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Originally posted by richterkbelmont:
The window is always open as long as talent gets replaced with talent.
Despite the Trey Lance fiasco, they are in a good position when Brock Purdy keeps getting better (it's not an if, he will just improve).
Next season they have their full draft capital again. They will get extra third for Demeco and another for Jimmy G, an extra 4th for Lance. Players will leave and be replaced by more talent.
If Greenlaw prices himself to high, Winters or Graham would have developed to take his place.
When Trent retires in a couple of years, they will have had drafted his replacement. Most likely not as great as Trent, but at least pretty good.
The replacement for Gibson is already in the building.
The new FB is grooming in the PS.
2023 roster is very different from the 2019 roster, it's much better.
Arik Armstead most likely will leave, but it's not like he should be difficult to replace.
Deebo or Aiyuk could leave, but there's no difficulty in finding receivers in today NFL, every class comes loaded with receiver talent.
As long as there's good drafting and good coaching, the window is wide open forever.

Agree 💯% with this point. Niether the cap hell nor the Superbowl window will close if ShanaLynch continues to draft well. I read somewhere on here a post from a Webzoner - I don't know how true this is - but that person said that about 28% of first round picks become actual starters their first year on a typical NFL team. If that post was even halfway correct, a guy like Brendel - who was a undrafted free agent, or a guy like Mitchell who was a 6th round pick (never mind the lotto pick in Purdy) - Brendel and Mitchell are worth *more* than a typcial first rounder if that's the case. As long as ShanaLynch continues to hit on draft picks that become starters vs guys like Solomon Thomas who are bench warmer material, with Purdy, the playoff and super bowl windows will be always wide open.
I'm old enough to remember our SB window closed in 2021 or so the haters said.

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Originally posted by JoseCortez:
All this restructuring is just delaying the inevitable- cap hell

Absolutely. You can't restructure forever. Sooner or later the players get paid. Check the salaries for next season and you'll see 6 players scheduled to make over $20 million. I haven't seen Bosa's new contract details but if his salary is about $25 million next year then they have about $157 million tied up with 6 players. I know they're going to restructure but that's stili. a lot of work to fit them under the cap. We may see a couple of players traded or released.
the only time restructures hurt your cap is when that player is no longer on the team

Players have to agree to the restructure and eventually every player is going to leave either through a trade, release or retirement. With 6 guys set to make over $20 million next year ( 2 are close to $30 million not counting Bosa) they have a lot of restructuring ahead of them. I don't see them having a whole lot of cap room for the next couple of years.
Originally posted by TheWooLick:
When was the first ride?

2011-2014

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Originally posted by JoseCortez:
All this restructuring is just delaying the inevitable- cap hell

Absolutely. You can't restructure forever. Sooner or later the players get paid. Check the salaries for next season and you'll see 6 players scheduled to make over $20 million. I haven't seen Bosa's new contract details but if his salary is about $25 million next year then they have about $157 million tied up with 6 players. I know they're going to restructure but that's stili. a lot of work to fit them under the cap. We may see a couple of players traded or released.
the only time restructures hurt your cap is when that player is no longer on the team

Players have to agree to the restructure and eventually every player is going to leave either through a trade, release or retirement. With 6 guys set to make over $20 million next year ( 2 are close to $30 million not counting Bosa) they have a lot of restructuring ahead of them. I don't see them having a whole lot of cap room for the next couple of years.
if we don't use the 23 mill we just freed up this year, we can roll that over to next year. We also free up around 19 mil on players no longer here. it's not that bad as the cap keeps increasing also.
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Originally posted by JoseCortez:
All this restructuring is just delaying the inevitable- cap hell

Absolutely. You can't restructure forever. Sooner or later the players get paid. Check the salaries for next season and you'll see 6 players scheduled to make over $20 million. I haven't seen Bosa's new contract details but if his salary is about $25 million next year then they have about $157 million tied up with 6 players. I know they're going to restructure but that's stili. a lot of work to fit them under the cap. We may see a couple of players traded or released.
the only time restructures hurt your cap is when that player is no longer on the team

Players have to agree to the restructure and eventually every player is going to leave either through a trade, release or retirement. With 6 guys set to make over $20 million next year ( 2 are close to $30 million not counting Bosa) they have a lot of restructuring ahead of them. I don't see them having a whole lot of cap room for the next couple of years.
if we don't use the 23 mill we just freed up this year, we can roll that over to next year. We also free up around 19 mil on players no longer here. it's not that bad as the cap keeps increasing also.
Rams,
Hags, now they are back to the replenishment point and a contender (but ran up against the wall for a while)
Now it's beginning to KC at an early point..

The Cinderella slipper can't fit forever otherwise all 32 teams would have rosters similar to the 9ers. We have had a very good 7 year run to do pretty much as we please for the most part. Now those surprise hits in the draft, the super stars (Bosa) and others need to be taken care of. So far so good but it is a shortening leash and I still say the piece that will fall is Deebo for as good as he is his skillset can be handled by CMC and an up and comer in Brandon. Brandon will not command the amount Deeb did.

And if that happens we still have a hell of a squad.

But really not trying to be doom and gloom. We have a hell of a team but some think you push a dollar here. Bonus a dollar there and you can have this roster forever.
[ Edited by 9erson3 on Sep 7, 2023 at 1:44 PM ]
Originally posted by 9erson3:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Originally posted by JoseCortez:
All this restructuring is just delaying the inevitable- cap hell

Absolutely. You can't restructure forever. Sooner or later the players get paid. Check the salaries for next season and you'll see 6 players scheduled to make over $20 million. I haven't seen Bosa's new contract details but if his salary is about $25 million next year then they have about $157 million tied up with 6 players. I know they're going to restructure but that's stili. a lot of work to fit them under the cap. We may see a couple of players traded or released.
the only time restructures hurt your cap is when that player is no longer on the team

Players have to agree to the restructure and eventually every player is going to leave either through a trade, release or retirement. With 6 guys set to make over $20 million next year ( 2 are close to $30 million not counting Bosa) they have a lot of restructuring ahead of them. I don't see them having a whole lot of cap room for the next couple of years.
if we don't use the 23 mill we just freed up this year, we can roll that over to next year. We also free up around 19 mil on players no longer here. it's not that bad as the cap keeps increasing also.
Rams,
Hags, now they are back to the replenishment point and a contender (but ran up against the wall for a while)
Now it's beginning to KC at an early point..

The Cinderella slipper can't fit forever otherwise all 32 teams would have teams similar to the 9ers. We have had a very good 7 year run to do pretty much as we please for the most part. Now those surprise hits in the draft, the super stars (Bosa) and others need to be taken care of. So far so good but it is a shortening leash and I still say the piece that will fall is Deebo for as good as he is his skillset can be handled by CMC and an up and comer in Brandon. Brandon will not command the amount Deeb did.

And if that happens we still have a hell of a squad.

But really not trying to be doom and gloom. We have a hell of a team but some think you push a dollar here. Bonus a dollar there and you can have this roster forever.
no one is saying to keep the same roster forever, but we can keep it a few years easy.

we have our first rounders back and can draft BPA instead of drafting for need..since that has bit us in the ass
hell yes it's the last ride, Superbowl win or FIRE EVERYONE
Originally posted by Dr_Bill_Walsh:
Originally posted by TheWooLick:
When was the first ride?

2011-2014

but what about this ride

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