2023 Camp Battles

Originally posted by AB81Rules:
No way Jon Feliciano is fighting for a roster spot, he got nearly all of his $2.25M deal fully GTD.

Also I don't see Colletto vs Bell being a thing, more likely Colletto vs TDP, I have Bell on the 53, 6 WRs this year, Bell is underrated, he & Gray are replacements for Ray-Ray & Jauan IMO, Bell won't clear waivers IMO.

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by RDB4216:

Originally posted by 49ers808:

Originally posted by 49erBigMac:

Originally posted by NCommand:
That's fair! We assume it'll be Mitchell but that could be a legit competition.

It won't be, Mitchell is exponentially better

This. How anyone can think otherwise is kinda laughable. Mitchell's only flaw is health

"Only" flaw - is a pretty major one. Like I said, I think Mason brings more as a 1-2 punch. He can come in and start to wear down the defense. And he broke some nice runs last year, against a stacked defense that knew he was getting the ball.

Exactly! Kyle doesn't give af about talent if it can't stay healthy. He's already shipped off 3 RB's for that very reason.

RB2-4 is going to be a legit competition.

Originally posted by 49ers808:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by RDB4216:

Originally posted by 49ers808:

Originally posted by 49erBigMac:

Originally posted by NCommand:
That's fair! We assume it'll be Mitchell but that could be a legit competition.

It won't be, Mitchell is exponentially better

This. How anyone can think otherwise is kinda laughable. Mitchell's only flaw is health

"Only" flaw - is a pretty major one. Like I said, I think Mason brings more as a 1-2 punch. He can come in and start to wear down the defense. And he broke some nice runs last year, against a stacked defense that knew he was getting the ball.

Exactly! Kyle doesn't give af about talent if it can't stay healthy. He's already shipped off 3 RB's for that very reason.

RB2-4 is going to be a legit competition.

And Mitchell hasn't done this? Over a much larger sample size at that? Mitchell is a much better RB and it isn't even close for me. To each their own

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by 49ers808:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by RDB4216:

Originally posted by 49ers808:

Originally posted by 49erBigMac:

Originally posted by NCommand:
That's fair! We assume it'll be Mitchell but that could be a legit competition.

It won't be, Mitchell is exponentially better

This. How anyone can think otherwise is kinda laughable. Mitchell's only flaw is health

"Only" flaw - is a pretty major one. Like I said, I think Mason brings more as a 1-2 punch. He can come in and start to wear down the defense. And he broke some nice runs last year, against a stacked defense that knew he was getting the ball.

Exactly! Kyle doesn't give af about talent if it can't stay healthy. He's already shipped off 3 RB's for that very reason.

RB2-4 is going to be a legit competition.

And Mitchell hasn't done this? Over a much larger sample size at that? Mitchell is a much better RB and it isn't even close for me. To each their own

The competition is what role. Second off the bench? Third? You're also not looking at TDP and the UDFA's. Kyle cut Mostert who had record performances here.

I love Mitchell too but as Kyle proved, if he doesn't believe in your health, the door is wide open for another esp. at RB where we use a heavy rotation anyhow and there will be plenty of carries to go around.

That's what makes RB2-4 a true legit competition, IMHO.

Originally posted by 49ers808:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by 49ers808:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by RDB4216:

Originally posted by 49ers808:

Originally posted by 49erBigMac:

Originally posted by NCommand:
That's fair! We assume it'll be Mitchell but that could be a legit competition.

It won't be, Mitchell is exponentially better

This. How anyone can think otherwise is kinda laughable. Mitchell's only flaw is health

"Only" flaw - is a pretty major one. Like I said, I think Mason brings more as a 1-2 punch. He can come in and start to wear down the defense. And he broke some nice runs last year, against a stacked defense that knew he was getting the ball.

Exactly! Kyle doesn't give af about talent if it can't stay healthy. He's already shipped off 3 RB's for that very reason.

RB2-4 is going to be a legit competition.

And Mitchell hasn't done this? Over a much larger sample size at that? Mitchell is a much better RB and it isn't even close for me. To each their own

The competition is what role. Second off the bench? Third? You're also not looking at TDP and the UDFA's. Kyle cut Mostert who had record performances here.

I love Mitchell too but as Kyle proved, if he doesn't believe in your health, the door is wide open for another esp. at RB where we use a heavy rotation anyhow and there will be plenty of carries to go around.

That's what makes RB2-4 a true legit competition, IMHO.

Mostert was cut? I don't remember it that way, I thought he just wasn't re-signed as a FA. Big difference there between a 6th round pick contract and what Mostert was looking for, after we already gave him a new contract prior. The role I see Mitchell in is a backup to CMC, the only way I don't see him in that role is if traded or hurt, not because he lost that role to Mason.

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by 49ers808:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by 49ers808:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by RDB4216:

Originally posted by 49ers808:

Originally posted by 49erBigMac:

Originally posted by NCommand:
That's fair! We assume it'll be Mitchell but that could be a legit competition.

It won't be, Mitchell is exponentially better

This. How anyone can think otherwise is kinda laughable. Mitchell's only flaw is health

"Only" flaw - is a pretty major one. Like I said, I think Mason brings more as a 1-2 punch. He can come in and start to wear down the defense. And he broke some nice runs last year, against a stacked defense that knew he was getting the ball.

Exactly! Kyle doesn't give af about talent if it can't stay healthy. He's already shipped off 3 RB's for that very reason.

RB2-4 is going to be a legit competition.

And Mitchell hasn't done this? Over a much larger sample size at that? Mitchell is a much better RB and it isn't even close for me. To each their own

The competition is what role. Second off the bench? Third? You're also not looking at TDP and the UDFA's. Kyle cut Mostert who had record performances here.

I love Mitchell too but as Kyle proved, if he doesn't believe in your health, the door is wide open for another esp. at RB where we use a heavy rotation anyhow and there will be plenty of carries to go around.

That's what makes RB2-4 a true legit competition, IMHO.

Mostert was cut? I don't remember it that way, I thought he just wasn't re-signed as a FA. Big difference there between a 6th round pick contract and what Mostert was looking for, after we already gave him a new contract prior. The role I see Mitchell in is a backup to CMC, the only way I don't see him in that role is if traded or hurt, not because he lost that role to Mason.

His history of health issues IS what makes it a competition.

As to talent, I too like Mitchell > Mason and that's no slight to Mason at all. Mitchell has a very natural feel for this scheme.

Hopefully it works out to a healthy CMC * Mitchell * Mitchell all year long. And we'll see what we have with TDP and the two UDFA's who have talent as well esp. Laborn.

Originally posted by 49ers808:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by 49ers808:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by 49ers808:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by RDB4216:

Originally posted by 49ers808:

Originally posted by 49erBigMac:

Originally posted by NCommand:
That's fair! We assume it'll be Mitchell but that could be a legit competition.

It won't be, Mitchell is exponentially better

This. How anyone can think otherwise is kinda laughable. Mitchell's only flaw is health

"Only" flaw - is a pretty major one. Like I said, I think Mason brings more as a 1-2 punch. He can come in and start to wear down the defense. And he broke some nice runs last year, against a stacked defense that knew he was getting the ball.

Exactly! Kyle doesn't give af about talent if it can't stay healthy. He's already shipped off 3 RB's for that very reason.

RB2-4 is going to be a legit competition.

And Mitchell hasn't done this? Over a much larger sample size at that? Mitchell is a much better RB and it isn't even close for me. To each their own

The competition is what role. Second off the bench? Third? You're also not looking at TDP and the UDFA's. Kyle cut Mostert who had record performances here.

I love Mitchell too but as Kyle proved, if he doesn't believe in your health, the door is wide open for another esp. at RB where we use a heavy rotation anyhow and there will be plenty of carries to go around.

That's what makes RB2-4 a true legit competition, IMHO.

Mostert was cut? I don't remember it that way, I thought he just wasn't re-signed as a FA. Big difference there between a 6th round pick contract and what Mostert was looking for, after we already gave him a new contract prior. The role I see Mitchell in is a backup to CMC, the only way I don't see him in that role is if traded or hurt, not because he lost that role to Mason.

His history of health issues IS what makes it a competition.

As to talent, I too like Mitchell > Mason and that's no slight to Mason at all. Mitchell has a very natural feel for this scheme.

Hopefully it works out to a healthy CMC * Mitchell * Mitchell all year long. And we'll see what we have with TDP and the two UDFA's who have talent as well esp. Laborn.

Okay well then that changes the tune of the conversation and I can agree with this. Your original post mentioned nothing abou health, just that it would be a legit competition. The other guy straight up said that he thinks Mason offers more as a 1-2 punch.

Originally posted by 49ers808:
^ Same, except I have zero confidence inTDP, never saw what they did in him. Add the fact that he doesn't offer ST value, I wouldn't be surprised if he's cut just like Sermon was. Laborn is for sure someone to keep tabs on

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by AB81Rules:
No way Jon Feliciano is fighting for a roster spot, he got nearly all of his $2.25M deal fully GTD.

Also I don't see Colletto vs Bell being a thing, more likely Colletto vs TDP, I have Bell on the 53, 6 WRs this year, Bell is underrated, he & Gray are replacements for Ray-Ray & Jauan IMO, Bell won't clear waivers IMO.

Agreed.

Colletto would be a FB2 (offensive weapon) and Bell, WR6. I think both are competing to show versatility and ST value to make the 53. I don't see them directly competing with each other per se, but with the 53 on offense overall.

Originally posted by AB81Rules:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by AB81Rules:
No way Jon Feliciano is fighting for a roster spot, he got nearly all of his $2.25M deal fully GTD.

Also I don't see Colletto vs Bell being a thing, more likely Colletto vs TDP, I have Bell on the 53, 6 WRs this year, Bell is underrated, he & Gray are replacements for Ray-Ray & Jauan IMO, Bell won't clear waivers IMO.

Agreed.

Colletto would be a FB2 (offensive weapon) and Bell, WR6. I think both are competing to show versatility and ST value to make the 53. I don't see them directly competing with each other per se, but with the 53 on offense overall.

If I had it my way, and Colletto plays well, I'd just cut TDP, I just never understood the pick from the get go, Mason beat him out for reps, and keep Colletto as a backup/ST guy.

How many guys do you view as locks to make the team, would love to see what our lists look like, we're usually down the last 5-7 spots at most each year, might only be 2-3 differences between our final rosters.

Originally posted by NCommand:
I'll edit as we gain more information as we go but for now, this seems like the likely camp battles for starting positions, depth and/or making the 53-man roster:

QB2: Trey Lance vs. Sam Darnold (Starter & Depth)
RB2: Elijah Mitchell vs. Jordan Mason (Depth)
RB3/4: Jordan Mason vs. Khalan Laborn (Depth)
RB3/4: Ronald Awatt vs. Ty David-Price (Depth)
FB2/WR6: Jack Colletto vs. Ronnie Bell (Roster)
TE2: Brayden Willis vs. Cameron Latu (Depth)
TE3: Brayden Willis vs. Charliie Woerner (Depth)
C2: Nick Zakelj vs. Jon Feliciano vs. Ilm Manning (Depth)
IOL4: Jason Poe vs. Nick Zakelj vs. Joey Fisher (Depth & Roster)
RT2: Matt Pryor vs. Jaylon Moore vs. Leroy Watson (Depth)
3T2: Kevin Givens vs. Kalia Davis (Depth & Roster)
2i2: Javon Kinlaw vs. T.Y. McGill (Depth & Roster)
ER2: Austin Bryant vs. Robert Beal Jr. vs. Kerry Hyder (Depth & Roster)
SAM1: Dee Winters vs. Oren Burks (Starter)
SAM1/2: Marcelino McCrary-Ball vs. Jalen Graham vs. Demitrius Flannigan-Fowles vs. Curtis Robinson (Depth & Roster)
CB1: Darell Luter Jr. vs. Deommodore Lenoir (Starter)
SCB1: Isaiah Oliver vs. Deommodore Lenoir (Starter)
S/CB2: Samuel Womack III vs. Ambry Thomas vs. Qwuantrezz Knight vs. D'Shawn Jamison (Depth & Roster)
SS1: Tashaun Gipson vs. Ji'Ayir Brown (Starter)
FS2: Tayler Hawkins vs. Miles Hartsfield (Depth & Roster)

Let the games, begin!