CMC: Sharing the load?

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:

Originally posted by BoldRedandGold:

Originally posted by Atrain:

Originally posted by BoldRedandGold:
Wish he could run the ball still.

Adjustments need to be made to make him into a third down scat back because that's what the stats are begging for.

He's not a scat back dude leads the league in forced tackles. He's still a top 5 back in the league more with our o line when has he had big running lanes to run thru this year to see if he's declining?

I don't know what planet you guys are living on. He's averaging 3.6 ypc and his longest run is like 12 yards.

He's absolutely terrible as a runner.

What NFL team in history has had rb averaging under 4 ypc and has a good running game?

He's not even at 3.9 which is terrible he's at 3.6 which is so bad I don't even recall the last time a starting RB finished the year as a starter under 3.9

But but leads the league in carries.... What? What kind of argument is this? That's even worse considering he's so bad.

I guess we're just using made up stats for production now not actually how many yards he gets each time he's given the ball...

He's a third down receiving and blocking back. Put him in the slot and hand him the ball less than 5x a game... He's cooked as a runner

https://www.statmuse.com/nfl/ask/worst-yards-per-carry-for-a-runningback-in-a-single-season-minimum-300-attempts

Someone was just proved wrong and don't like facts. A lot of great rbs on that list under 4.0 not to mention if you go back this year and look at all CMC runs the ones our online get beat badly on he's always hit in the backfield for like 5 yard loss you take them away he's going to be over 4

CMC has lost a step and is not as explosive as he was but i honestly don't see a lot of holes to run through. I don't sit there and say "oh he would have broken that tackle 2 year ago". The running lanes just aren't there as they once were.

Originally posted by miked1978:
CMC has lost a step and is not as explosive as he was but i honestly don't see a lot of holes to run through. I don't sit there and say "oh he would have broken that tackle 2 year ago". The running lanes just aren't there as they once were.

That's pretty much my thoughts.. I don't see many holes being opened period. Was just hoping to see the mix it up a bit more, specifically IG and his speed. I'll defer to KS and turner though lol

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:

Originally posted by miked1978:
CMC has lost a step and is not as explosive as he was but i honestly don't see a lot of holes to run through. I don't sit there and say "oh he would have broken that tackle 2 year ago". The running lanes just aren't there as they once were.

That's pretty much my thoughts.. I don't see many holes being opened period. Was just hoping to see the mix it up a bit more, specifically IG and his speed. I'll defer to KS and turner though lol

I get what you all are saying. And it would be terrific if we had a (just pulling a random name) J. Gibbs type RB.
But my thing is, at least we're getting SOMETHING out of CMC, and not nothing. And a few of those things we're getting are great.
I'm glad he's stayed healthy, and strong and I hope it continues. I've said it before. I hope he's still there for whatever success (including possible Super Bowl) the 49ers have this year.
The team has come this far with what they have. I continue to believe they can still go farther.

Originally posted by miked1978:
CMC has lost a step and is not as explosive as he was but i honestly don't see a lot of holes to run through. I don't sit there and say "oh he would have broken that tackle 2 year ago". The running lanes just aren't there as they once were.

I agree every body loses a step after 4 or 5 years in this league it's more this year on the run thru holes.

Well so long as CMC is helping us to move the chains and is a persistent threat that defenses have to give extra attention to he also helps us in the passing game and with other WRs getting open so it's all good

Originally posted by Atrain:

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:

Originally posted by BoldRedandGold:

Originally posted by Atrain:

Originally posted by BoldRedandGold:
Wish he could run the ball still.

Adjustments need to be made to make him into a third down scat back because that's what the stats are begging for.

He's not a scat back dude leads the league in forced tackles. He's still a top 5 back in the league more with our o line when has he had big running lanes to run thru this year to see if he's declining?

I don't know what planet you guys are living on. He's averaging 3.6 ypc and his longest run is like 12 yards.

He's absolutely terrible as a runner.

What NFL team in history has had rb averaging under 4 ypc and has a good running game?

He's not even at 3.9 which is terrible he's at 3.6 which is so bad I don't even recall the last time a starting RB finished the year as a starter under 3.9

But but leads the league in carries.... What? What kind of argument is this? That's even worse considering he's so bad.

I guess we're just using made up stats for production now not actually how many yards he gets each time he's given the ball...

He's a third down receiving and blocking back. Put him in the slot and hand him the ball less than 5x a game... He's cooked as a runner

https://www.statmuse.com/nfl/ask/worst-yards-per-carry-for-a-runningback-in-a-single-season-minimum-300-attempts

Someone was just proved wrong and don't like facts. A lot of great rbs on that list under 4.0 not to mention if you go back this year and look at all CMC runs the ones our online get beat badly on he's always hit in the backfield for like 5 yard loss you take them away he's going to be over 4

There's only 3 teams that even had one RB in the last 20 years and no sb winners other than the Steelers on that list in 1978 in the top 25.

The bengals who last did that in 2010 were absolutely terrible.

Nobody is going to say I want my starting RB to average 3.6 a carry.

3rd downs and passes only.

Pull your head out of the sand and realize he's terrible at running the ball.

Just because there's some hall of fame backs on that list does not mean those were good seasons. Ask any of them if they think those were good seasons.

He's cooked. Face facts.

Is Saquon Barkley cooked?

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Is Saquon Barkley cooked?

COOKED!

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:

Originally posted by miked1978:
CMC has lost a step and is not as explosive as he was but i honestly don't see a lot of holes to run through. I don't sit there and say "oh he would have broken that tackle 2 year ago". The running lanes just aren't there as they once were.

That's pretty much my thoughts.. I don't see many holes being opened period. Was just hoping to see the mix it up a bit more, specifically IG and his speed. I'll defer to KS and turner though lol

Absolutely true. Remember when the Niners had Breida and then Mostert. They were breaking off some huge runs but were usually untouched. This year Barkley is averaging 3.7 per carry after going over 2000 yards last year and averaging 5.8 per carry. Did he suddenly lose it in one year? More likely the Oline isn't blocking as well.

Originally posted by BoldRedandGold:

Originally posted by Atrain:

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:

Originally posted by BoldRedandGold:

Originally posted by Atrain:

Originally posted by BoldRedandGold:
Wish he could run the ball still.

Adjustments need to be made to make him into a third down scat back because that's what the stats are begging for.

He's not a scat back dude leads the league in forced tackles. He's still a top 5 back in the league more with our o line when has he had big running lanes to run thru this year to see if he's declining?

I don't know what planet you guys are living on. He's averaging 3.6 ypc and his longest run is like 12 yards.

He's absolutely terrible as a runner.

What NFL team in history has had rb averaging under 4 ypc and has a good running game?

He's not even at 3.9 which is terrible he's at 3.6 which is so bad I don't even recall the last time a starting RB finished the year as a starter under 3.9

But but leads the league in carries.... What? What kind of argument is this? That's even worse considering he's so bad.

I guess we're just using made up stats for production now not actually how many yards he gets each time he's given the ball...

He's a third down receiving and blocking back. Put him in the slot and hand him the ball less than 5x a game... He's cooked as a runner

https://www.statmuse.com/nfl/ask/worst-yards-per-carry-for-a-runningback-in-a-single-season-minimum-300-attempts

Someone was just proved wrong and don't like facts. A lot of great rbs on that list under 4.0 not to mention if you go back this year and look at all CMC runs the ones our online get beat badly on he's always hit in the backfield for like 5 yard loss you take them away he's going to be over 4

There's only 3 teams that even had one RB in the last 20 years and no sb winners other than the Steelers on that list in 1978 in the top 25.

The bengals who last did that in 2010 were absolutely terrible.

Nobody is going to say I want my starting RB to average 3.6 a carry.

3rd downs and passes only.

Pull your head out of the sand and realize he's terrible at running the ball.

Just because there's some hall of fame backs on that list does not mean those were good seasons. Ask any of them if they think those were good seasons.

He's cooked. Face facts.

Originally posted by BoldRedandGold:

Originally posted by Atrain:

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:

Originally posted by BoldRedandGold:

Originally posted by Atrain:

Originally posted by BoldRedandGold:
Wish he could run the ball still.

Adjustments need to be made to make him into a third down scat back because that's what the stats are begging for.

He's not a scat back dude leads the league in forced tackles. He's still a top 5 back in the league more with our o line when has he had big running lanes to run thru this year to see if he's declining?

I don't know what planet you guys are living on. He's averaging 3.6 ypc and his longest run is like 12 yards.

He's absolutely terrible as a runner.

What NFL team in history has had rb averaging under 4 ypc and has a good running game?

He's not even at 3.9 which is terrible he's at 3.6 which is so bad I don't even recall the last time a starting RB finished the year as a starter under 3.9

But but leads the league in carries.... What? What kind of argument is this? That's even worse considering he's so bad.

I guess we're just using made up stats for production now not actually how many yards he gets each time he's given the ball...

He's a third down receiving and blocking back. Put him in the slot and hand him the ball less than 5x a game... He's cooked as a runner

https://www.statmuse.com/nfl/ask/worst-yards-per-carry-for-a-runningback-in-a-single-season-minimum-300-attempts

Someone was just proved wrong and don't like facts. A lot of great rbs on that list under 4.0 not to mention if you go back this year and look at all CMC runs the ones our online get beat badly on he's always hit in the backfield for like 5 yard loss you take them away he's going to be over 4

There's only 3 teams that even had one RB in the last 20 years and no sb winners other than the Steelers on that list in 1978 in the top 25.

The bengals who last did that in 2010 were absolutely terrible.

Nobody is going to say I want my starting RB to average 3.6 a carry.

3rd downs and passes only.

Pull your head out of the sand and realize he's terrible at running the ball.

Just because there's some hall of fame backs on that list does not mean those were good seasons. Ask any of them if they think those were good seasons.

He's cooked. Face facts.

Quit being a hater you do know simple math is 3.6 x 3 is a first down. CMC avg is not why we don't have more than 9 wins , if it wasn't for him we would definitely have more than 4 losses. You need to wake up and realize he is still a top 10 back in the league.

Next year we'll need another starting-caliber RB because CMC can't keep carrying the ball 18 times per game.

Maybe Jordan James can surprise us next season or maybe we need to find someone but the thing is that we need to have a 2-RB offense.

Originally posted by Monsterniner:
Next year we'll need another starting-caliber RB because CMC can't keep carrying the ball 18 times per game.

Maybe Jordan James can surprise us next season or maybe we need to find someone but the thing is that we need to have a 2-RB offense.

What happened to upgrading the O line? It's amazing how much that can affect the runnng game.

https://www.49erswebzone.com/articles/197075-christian-mccaffrey-injury-questionable-sundays/

KS rides his tires all the way to zero tread.