QB Brock Purdy Thread

Originally posted by Niners99:

Originally posted by dwy621:

Originally posted by Niners99:

Originally posted by q0c0p:
Intriguing thought experiment. Trade purdy for herbert. Purdy fits mike much better thab herbert. They are ready to win now and will do it. I would consider the trade if they add in 4th or something

lol Herbert is the most overrated QB in the NFL. Brock is flat out better.

I guarantee that 31 out of 32 teams would take Herbert over Purdy.

31 out of 32 teams also thought Brock Purdy wasn't worth drafting. Shows they can all be wrong. I think an alarming number of NFL franchises are secretly run by people who draft based on dumb things like arm talent and speed. How did the entire league whiff on Purdy? He processes information faster than almost everyone in the league.

Caleb Williams had an atrocious comp.% this year, and his passer rating was bottom half, but everyone keeps slobbering all over him because he throws frozen ropes and he was drafted 1st overall. Purdy has elite numbers, but nobody cares because he was picked last.

Purdy's Completion percentage in the Playoffs....56.9%....not that much better than Calebs 52.2%. Regular season Caleb was completing 58.1% of his passes. For a second year guy who has an underperforming receiving group and he still managed an 11 win season.

Originally posted by Niners99:
lol Herbert is the most overrated QB in the NFL. Brock is flat out better.

Correct. Thats why they must add a 3rd or 4th or something else

Originally posted by jcs:
Purdy's Completion percentage in the Playoffs....56.9%....not that much better than Calebs 52.2%. Regular season Caleb was completing 58.1% of his passes. For a second year guy who has an underperforming receiving group and he still managed an 11 win season.

Williams' completion % during the playoffs was in line with what he had done during the season. while Brock's was 13% lower which could be attributed to the fact that he played two much better defenses in his 2 playoff games than Williams probably faced in his.

people comparing marginal completion % differences of caleb and brock....lol

they are different qbs with very different skillsets

Brock has mid at best arm talent so hes forced to be an anticipatory thrower, hes an elite processor, has control of ball in terms of touch and trajectory, he is fearless in the pocket, and has elite quickness and pocket presence/peripheral vision.

Caleb has crazy arm talent and strength, is mid from the pocket and is not a very accurate thrower. He is more athletic than Brock and has better long-distance speed, and his best traits are when hes out of the pocket improvising. How sustainable that model is to be seen... we have seen some spectacular Mahomes-esque throws from Caleb but also some bad picks and inconsistency/inaccuracy on layups which Brock makes.

Teams generally look for upside and physical traits in a QB, hence why Calebs style will always be selected early. Brocks style will never be drafted too high... because of arm talent limitations a QB of his skillset has to be real real good in all other things and that doesnt happen often. Id say hes more of an exception. Part of the reason why I think Shedeur fell this much, aside from the Prime association and stuff. His arm talent was just not impressive and some people dont like it when Purdy is the ceiling of a prospect.

Physical traits are what everybody can see, so that's what most base their ranking on. There's so much more that goes into it though. Joe and Tom didn't have the highest ceilings of their eras, but they came out the goats, because having a "high ceiling" as an individual in a sport like football only goes so far

There's other factors that go into it too. If the refs get Brady's fumble right, Seahawks run Marshawn, if Dee Ford doesn't line up offsides, and if Kyle runs the ball- then Brady probably ends up with 4 less rings, and those mistakes were all outside of his control. There's way more to this than being the most talented or having the highest ceiling

An analyst said it perfectly today when he said Brock is "good enough."

That is exactly right. We are lucky too that Brock meets that threshold. Don't go any higher throughout the years with his pay and we should be able to put good players around him to win a Super Bowl. 💫

Originally posted by ninerfaninnorcal:
An analyst said it perfectly today when he said Brock is "good enough."

That is exactly right. We are lucky too that Brock meets that threshold. Don't go any higher throughout the years with his pay and we should be able to put good players around him to win a Super Bowl. 💫

Top 5 QB contract for simply good enough....

Originally posted by jcs:

Originally posted by ninerfaninnorcal:
An analyst said it perfectly today when he said Brock is "good enough."

That is exactly right. We are lucky too that Brock meets that threshold. Don't go any higher throughout the years with his pay and we should be able to put good players around him to win a Super Bowl. 💫

Top 5 QB contract for simply good enough....

Maybe you should read the whole quote next time.

"I mean, you're not going to upgrade," Baldinger said. "You're not going to find anyone better than Brock."

"Good enough" is not an insult when you follow it up with that.

Also, your statement isn't even accurate. Brock is 8th highest paid.

Originally posted by jcs:

Originally posted by ninerfaninnorcal:
An analyst said it perfectly today when he said Brock is "good enough."

That is exactly right. We are lucky too that Brock meets that threshold. Don't go any higher throughout the years with his pay and we should be able to put good players around him to win a Super Bowl. 💫

Top 5 QB contract for simply good enough....

Depends on how you look at it I guess. He's in the Top 10 salary-wise but once you factor in the duplicate salaries he gets closer to the top 5. But who else is in that group. Prescott is at the top with $60MIL I'd take Brock over him. Tua's in there, I'd take Brock over him. Herbert, based on the way he's played to date I would take Brock over him. Goff, I'd take Brock over him because of his mobility.

Lawrence, based on his play prior to this year, I'd take Brock over him. If Lawrence can continue his level of play into next year, that might be a different conversation, but I think Brock makes better decisions overall. Jordan Love? That's a little tougher. Could Love run our offense as well as Brock does, or could Brock make the same kind of deep throws that Jordan does for Green Bay? Not sure about Burrow, a good player on a bad team can be a little hard to evaluate

That only leaves Allen and Lamar (Mahomes is out of the top 10 now but obviously he has to be considered in the top group). Allen is unique in his size and arm strength but can't seem to get over the hump in the playoffs. The same with Lamar who isn't as elusive as he used to be but has certainly improved as a passer, and Brock has more Super Bowl appearances than both of them combined, probably has a better playoff record as well. QB salaries are outrageous by any metric you use, but on par, Brock has done as much to earn his salary as a lot of those guys.

Originally posted by jcs:
Purdy's Completion percentage in the Playoffs....56.9%....not that much better than Calebs 52.2%. Regular season Caleb was completing 58.1% of his passes. For a second year guy who has an underperforming receiving group and he still managed an 11 win season.

Sample size is too small.

CW completed 60.3% of his passes over his first 34 games. 89.0 passer rating. 6.6 y/a. 16 wins.

Brock was at 68.2 comp.%, 107.6 passer rating. 9.0 y/a over his first 34 games. 31 wins.

CW has a big arm and was 1st overall, so people are anointing him despite his mediocre numbers. Purdy was elite and people said he was a joke because he was picked last.

Originally posted by jcs:

Originally posted by ninerfaninnorcal:
An analyst said it perfectly today when he said Brock is "good enough."

That is exactly right. We are lucky too that Brock meets that threshold. Don't go any higher throughout the years with his pay and we should be able to put good players around him to win a Super Bowl. 💫

Top 5 QB contract for simply good enough....

His contract is not top 5 so there's that…maybe try posting with facts?

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by jcs:

Originally posted by ninerfaninnorcal:
An analyst said it perfectly today when he said Brock is "good enough."

That is exactly right. We are lucky too that Brock meets that threshold. Don't go any higher throughout the years with his pay and we should be able to put good players around him to win a Super Bowl. 💫

Top 5 QB contract for simply good enough....

His contract is not top 5 so there's that…maybe try posting with facts?

https://overthecap.com/position/quarterback
Total value #5

Originally posted by jcs:

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by jcs:

Originally posted by ninerfaninnorcal:
An analyst said it perfectly today when he said Brock is "good enough."

That is exactly right. We are lucky too that Brock meets that threshold. Don't go any higher throughout the years with his pay and we should be able to put good players around him to win a Super Bowl. 💫

Top 5 QB contract for simply good enough....

His contract is not top 5 so there's that…maybe try posting with facts?

https://overthecap.com/position/quarterback
Total value #5

Thank you. Now we know you're trolling.

Total value might be the least possible important way to measure a contract in the NFL.

Originally posted by jcs:

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by jcs:

Originally posted by ninerfaninnorcal:
An analyst said it perfectly today when he said Brock is "good enough."

That is exactly right. We are lucky too that Brock meets that threshold. Don't go any higher throughout the years with his pay and we should be able to put good players around him to win a Super Bowl. 💫

Top 5 QB contract for simply good enough....

His contract is not top 5 so there's that…maybe try posting with facts?

https://overthecap.com/position/quarterback
Total value #5

It should tell you something that the website you linked to doesn't default to listing the QBs by total value…

Brock's cap hit this season wasn't even top 15. Looking at his total value is as disingenuous as you can get. Especially when it will be dwarfed long before he comes close to getting to those numbers.