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Originally posted by boast:
sounds like a narcissist tbh

Originally posted by paulk205:
To wrap up my Purdy posts for today (I do need to work for a living), I will wonder aloud once again. I thought you Americans loved rags-to-riches, triumph against adversity, nobody-believed-in-you, Cinderella-never-turning-into-a-pumpkin, victory through sheer determination and effort, stories. What's more fitting in these narratives than a little guy drafted last in the draft who looks like he needs his mum's permission to stay up for a night game, much less start in it? Not just Mr Irrelevant, but Mr Everyone? If this were a daytime soap character we would say he was a bit too unlikely even for the format. And we lucked into him?

It is unbelievable how butt-hurt the entire nerd&draftnik community (everyone is in a "community" these days) is over misjudging this guy, that four years down the line they are STILL willing him to actually turn into a pumpkin. I marvel at how enthusiastically they pick apart his miscues and how readily they dismiss his successes. Are people's identities really so tied-up to the stupid parlour game that is the mock draft? Seriously, what's the big deal? OK, so you guys were off by about 200 spots in this case. Is this such a crushing blow to your manhood?

Same thing happened to Brady in 2005-2006, and he had won 3 SBs. At that time they gave him credit for being clutch in big moments, but otherwise the Pats defense and Belichick were the real stars of those SB teams.

Then 2007 happened, Brady put up big stats, and that argument against his greatness died.

I'm not saying Brock is gonna end up like Brady - he's got a ways to go for sure. What I'm saying is that these types of critics have always been around.
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If Brock Purdy could keep being the number one QB in the pressure to sack ratio, that would be a great news for the team.
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Originally posted by pdc20:
If Brock Purdy could keep being the number one QB in the pressure to sack ratio, that would be a great news for the team.

That's like being the fighter with the best chin. I'd rather just not get hit and Purdy just not see pressure.
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Originally posted by NYniner85:

My bad lol
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Originally posted by Kolohe:
Originally posted by NYniner85:

FWIW he was playing against an inferior team. As of right now his numbers SHOULD look good. To me his best game was against Cleveland and Myles Garrett. His numbers could've very well have been crap against a top 5 defense at home in the cold.

That's for the season.
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Originally posted by captveg:
Originally posted by paulk205:
To wrap up my Purdy posts for today (I do need to work for a living), I will wonder aloud once again. I thought you Americans loved rags-to-riches, triumph against adversity, nobody-believed-in-you, Cinderella-never-turning-into-a-pumpkin, victory through sheer determination and effort, stories. What's more fitting in these narratives than a little guy drafted last in the draft who looks like he needs his mum's permission to stay up for a night game, much less start in it? Not just Mr Irrelevant, but Mr Everyone? If this were a daytime soap character we would say he was a bit too unlikely even for the format. And we lucked into him?

It is unbelievable how butt-hurt the entire nerd&draftnik community (everyone is in a "community" these days) is over misjudging this guy, that four years down the line they are STILL willing him to actually turn into a pumpkin. I marvel at how enthusiastically they pick apart his miscues and how readily they dismiss his successes. Are people's identities really so tied-up to the stupid parlour game that is the mock draft? Seriously, what's the big deal? OK, so you guys were off by about 200 spots in this case. Is this such a crushing blow to your manhood?

Same thing happened to Brady in 2005-2006, and he had won 3 SBs. At that time they gave him credit for being clutch in big moments, but otherwise the Pats defense and Belichick were the real stars of those SB teams.

Then 2007 happened, Brady put up big stats, and that argument against his greatness died.

I'm not saying Brock is gonna end up like Brady - he's got a ways to go for sure. What I'm saying is that these types of critics have always been around.

There are still people who say that about Brady. Montana too. Some people are just overly enamored with physical talent. How else can you explain the obsession with an average QB like Elway being mentioned as one of the "greats?"
Comparing Brock to Brady, Montana and Young in any way does not have the argumentative effect some of you think it does.
Originally posted by niner4life21:
Comparing Brock to Brady, Montana and Young in any way does not have the argumentative effect some of you think it does.

How can you compare them? They played in different eras with different rules. They played in different offenses with different players around them. Thye had different coaches.
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Originally posted by niner4life21:
Comparing Brock to Brady, Montana and Young in any way does not have the argumentative effect some of you think it does.

How can you compare them? They played in different eras with different rules. They played in different offenses with different players around them. Thye had different coaches.

I'm not the one who feels the need to compare Brock to those guys.
Originally posted by niner4life21:
Comparing Brock to Brady, Montana and Young in any way does not have the argumentative effect some of you think it does.

Just a product of the way QB's are argued about among the vast majority of fans.

Arguments usually revolve around team success and/or statistics. It wasn't until very recently that fans had access to game film or other content based on game film (like JTO's videos as an example) which are readily available through social media.

Fans see parallels in the style or structure of the arguments for and against whatever player it is.
Originally posted by niner4life21:
I'm not the one who feels the need to compare Brock to those guys.

The comparison, to my interpretation, is comparing Brock to other QBs who lacked elite measurables. And this seems to be in response to the idea that Brock is ranked lower than other young QBs because he's lacking in something physical as opposed to judging his performance at face value the way Love, or Daniels, or Maye, or Nix are evaluated. For reasons that persist, Purdy is generally viewed as a tier below these other young QBs, mostly because he doesn't have the arm or height they do.

So it's a natural reaction to point out guys like Montana or Brady or Brees, who weren't first round QBs and lacked arm, height, or physique, yet went on to become three of the best QBs of all time. There's no reason Brock can't turn into such a QB, provided he continues to grow into the position the way other young QBs are afforded the time to do. And it's not insulting other QBs legacy to point out that Brock has started his career as good as some of them did. No argument is claiming Brock is a hall of fame QB by invoking these names, or that he will become as good as these QBs. That's just a nonsense take that gets thrown around as soon as someone says one of those names to point out a similarity.
Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:
Just a product of the way QB's are argued about among the vast majority of fans.

Arguments usually revolve around team success and/or statistics. It wasn't until very recently that fans had access to game film or other content based on game film (like JTO's videos as an example) which are readily available through social media.

Fans see parallels in the style or structure of the arguments for and against whatever player it is.

A major problem IMO. The tool 'could' be informative if there wasn't some sort of agenda or narrative behind it. I see tons of twitter graphs and charts and nonsense links to PFF and whatnot.....some of it is beyond a joke, but someone comes up with a formula and.....I guess it's fact? No.

Just look at this thread since Purdy had a good day against a trash Tenn team. Names like Burrow, Brees, Brady are dropped.....John Elway was 'average' and such.
Originally posted by RickyRoma:
A major problem IMO. The tool 'could' be informative if there wasn't some sort of agenda or narrative behind it. I see tons of twitter graphs and charts and nonsense links to PFF and whatnot.....some of it is beyond a joke, but someone comes up with a formula and.....I guess it's fact? No.

Just look at this thread since Purdy had a good day against a trash Tenn team. Names like Burrow, Brees, Brady are dropped.....John Elway was 'average' and such.

You get things like this when people rely on certain statistics, but also don't really understand what the statistics represent. It is what it is…. Never going to change.
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