QB Brock Purdy Thread

Originally posted by 9moon:
B-Rock Steady Purdy's situation is not different than Grappy after we traded for him.. if Brick by Brick Brothers feel that it's all KYLE, then why pay the guy?

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Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
lol it's not me admitting, I'm not the one bringing bad examples here. You're the only one on this soap box who is getting countered here, not me

Again, LJ didn't have one year left on his contract to be placed on the NEFT, They ended up paying him more. How is that equal to Brock's situation right now? Maybe if they make him playout this upcoming season, then we can see how the market is?

BA, It wasn't SF trying to find a market, they set the price. It was take it or leave it. What teams offered didn't change what SF wanted to pay him.

your response on Staff is totally wrong with what your claiming is relate with what i said. The Rams put stafford on the block, Staff is not coming up on a contract year or asked for an extension. They simply don't want him anymore, how is that related to any of this Brock talk

You think it's a bad example because it doesn't fit your narrative.

They didn't pay him a FGTD contract like he wanted. Plain and simple. Deflect it all you want doesn't change anything. No different than if Brock wanted Dak cash but ended up getting Jordan Love money.

Wrong about Stafford….

"The Los Angeles Rams have granted quarterback Matthew Stafford and his agent permission to talk to other teams about his market value, NFL Network Insiders Ian Rapoport and Tom Pelissero reported on Saturday.

By doing this, the Rams and Stafford can gain a better understanding of his worth, Rapoport added"

Rams grant QB Matthew Stafford's camp permission to talk to other teams, per @RapSheet + @TomPelissero https://t.co/gMRqcymTlX pic.twitter.com/F7brIR9SIb

— Around The NFL (@AroundTheNFL) February 22, 2025

Dude lol, I see you're now using the full gtd take now cause you can't use the MV anymore.. and still, LJ was Franchised tagged because he was going to be a UFA. Brock is not a UFA. Balt did not do that the year before.. how do you not see that?

How am i wrong about Staff? Staff has two years left on his contract and not looking for an extension. It's not about Staff's worth, it's the Rams doing staff dirty

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
lol, you're not saying that tho

LJ and BP situation even if BP asked to be the highest paid is still not equal

That's exactly what I'm saying…I've been about as transparent as possible. At this pt if you can't understand it, thats not my problem.

IMO the issue here is I KNOW you understand it but you're unwilling to say I was wrong and continue toss out straw man/deflecting points over and over like you're proving anything lol.

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Dude lol, I see you're now using the full gtd take now cause you can't use the MV anymore.. and still, LJ was Franchised tagged because he was going to be a UFA. Brock is not a UFA. Balt did not do that the year before.. how do you not see that?

How am i wrong about Staff? Staff has two years left on his contract and not looking for an extension. It's not about Staff's worth, it's the Rams doing staff dirty

They gave him a non-exclusive tag, specifically to let him talk to other teams. He thought his MV was a FGTD contract like Watson was. I know hard to grasp. I'm sure you will straw man that some more.

you're wrong because they're doing EXACTLY what I said SF could do. Letting the market determine his worth and going from there…you deflect with he has two yrs left, but leave out that he has basically no GTD cash left. The concept is exactly the same regardless of what you try to say.

this isn't doing anyone dirty, it's showing both sides what the market will pay him and determining if LA or the teams offering him a deal will be the ones paying him.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
lol, you're not saying that tho

LJ and BP situation even if BP asked to be the highest paid is still not equal

That's exactly what I'm saying…I've been about as transparent as possible. At this pt if you can't understand it, thats not my problem.

IMO the issue here is I KNOW you understand it but you're unwilling to say I was wrong and continue toss out straw man/deflecting points over and over like you're proving anything lol.

in the real world this happened.

-LJ was a UFA and placed on the NEFT. which would require overpaying him and 2 first round picks
-Brock has one year left and no one is going offer a contract to an already contracted player.

Balt ended up making LJ the highest paid and the most guaranteed. The Ravens still overpaid and the dog and pony show didn't help

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Dude lol, I see you're now using the full gtd take now cause you can't use the MV anymore.. and still, LJ was Franchised tagged because he was going to be a UFA. Brock is not a UFA. Balt did not do that the year before.. how do you not see that?

How am i wrong about Staff? Staff has two years left on his contract and not looking for an extension. It's not about Staff's worth, it's the Rams doing staff dirty

They gave him a non-exclusive tag, specifically to let him talk to other teams. He thought his MV was a FGTD contract like Watson was. I know hard to grasp. I'm sure you will straw man that some more.

you're wrong because they're doing EXACTLY what I said SF could do. Letting the market determine his worth and going from there…you deflect with he has two yrs left, but leave out that he has basically no GTD cash left. The concept is exactly the same regardless of what you try to say.

this isn't doing anyone dirty, it's showing both sides what the market will pay him and determining if LA or the teams offering him a deal will be the ones paying him.

like i said, our Convos never discussed FGTD until you just found that out, now you somehow know LJ was only going to take FGTD.

Balt not paying him FGTD is not the win to this discussion, Balt still made him the highest paid and most GTD for a QB

You wouldn't be ok with making the Brock the highest paid with the most GTD if we still didn't meet the demands like LJ

Staff has to do nothing right now. He's under contract. Staff didn't want out or requested GTD money from what i've heard. Rams don't want to live up to their contract

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
like i said, our Convos never discussed FGTD until you just found that out, now you somehow know LJ was only going to take FGTD.

Balt not paying him FGTD is not the win to this discussion, Balt still made him the highest paid and most GTD for a QB

You wouldn't be ok with making the Brock the highest paid with the most GTD if we still didn't meet the demands like LJ

Maybe you didn't understand that, again that's not my problem. He wanted a certain amount of money and Baltimore didn't want to give him that SO they let the market dictate it. You can strawman that as much as you want…doesn't change anything.

If teams said yes please let me pay Brock more than any football player ever. Then you're at crossroads and you either pay him that or discuss trade compensation. It's not different than what LA is doing with Stafford. Which is the whole damn point and why I brought it up (because you said it NEVER happens).

FWIW it's okay to be wrong about something. I'm as stubborn as anyone in here but I've at least admitted I was wrong at one point…I don't think you've ever done that.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
like i said, our Convos never discussed FGTD until you just found that out, now you somehow know LJ was only going to take FGTD.

Balt not paying him FGTD is not the win to this discussion, Balt still made him the highest paid and most GTD for a QB

You wouldn't be ok with making the Brock the highest paid with the most GTD if we still didn't meet the demands like LJ

Maybe you didn't understand that, again that's not my problem. He wanted a certain amount of money and Baltimore didn't want to give him that SO they let the market dictate it. You can strawman that as much as you want…doesn't change anything.

If teams said yes please let me pay Brock more than any football player ever. Then you're at crossroads and you either pay him that or discuss trade compensation. It's not different than what LA is doing with Stafford. Which is the whole damn point and why I brought it up (because you said it NEVER happens).

FWIW it's okay to be wrong about something. I'm as stubborn as anyone in here but I've at least admitted I was wrong at one point…I don't think you've ever done that.

I'm not wrong tho

If Brock wanted 70m avg and FGTD money

Are you ok with not meeting that, but still make him the highest paid and get the most GTD for a QB ever ? (This happened in your Balt/LJ example)

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
like i said, our Convos never discussed FGTD until you just found that out, now you somehow know LJ was only going to take FGTD.

Balt not paying him FGTD is not the win to this discussion, Balt still made him the highest paid and most GTD for a QB

You wouldn't be ok with making the Brock the highest paid with the most GTD if we still didn't meet the demands like LJ

Maybe you didn't understand that, again that's not my problem. He wanted a certain amount of money and Baltimore didn't want to give him that SO they let the market dictate it. You can strawman that as much as you want…doesn't change anything.

If teams said yes please let me pay Brock more than any football player ever. Then you're at crossroads and you either pay him that or discuss trade compensation. It's not different than what LA is doing with Stafford. Which is the whole damn point and why I brought it up (because you said it NEVER happens).

FWIW it's okay to be wrong about something. I'm as stubborn as anyone in here but I've at least admitted I was wrong at one point…I don't think you've ever done that.

Really?!

Those Trey Lance takes are still some of the worst I've seen on this forum.

I can't wait until we get this deal done so we can actually discuss real things vs extreme hypotheticals.

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
I'm not wrong tho

If Brock wanted 70m avg and FGTD money

Are you ok with not meeting that, but still make him the highest paid and get the most GTD for a QB ever ? (This happened in your Balt/LJ example)

You are absolutely wrong lol. I'm not gonna back and forth if you're gonna continue to straw man s**t.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
I'm not wrong tho

Are you ok with not meeting that, but still make him the highest paid and get the most GTD for a QB ever ? (This happened in your Balt/LJ example)

You are absolutely wrong lol. I'm not gonna back and forth if you're gonna continue to straw man s**t.

i'm wrong about what happened in Balt and what LJ got ?

Again, If Brock wanted 65/70m avg and FGTD money. Are you ok with not meeting that, but still make him the highest paid and get the most GTD for a QB ever ? (This happened in your Balt/LJ example)

Originally posted by genus49:
I can't wait until we get this deal done so we can actually discuss real things vs extreme hypotheticals.

lol same.. Complaining about what brock should get paid then use an example of a QB getting paid the most. It's more of someone emotions toward a QB than the pay scale

Originally posted by 9moon:
B-Rock Steady Purdy's situation is not different than Grappy after we traded for him.. if Brick by Brick Brothers feel that it's all KYLE, then why pay the guy?

that's the point i am making. brock is good or solid. i'm still looking to upgrade this position, ideally to a guy who is a game changer not just a game manager.