QB Brock Purdy Thread

Originally posted by q0c0p:
Jets will pay a lot for jimmy. They have a good team. Just missing the qb

I wouldn't count out the Raiders either. Lots of opportunities for Jimmy G in Vegas.

Originally posted by SinceXVI:

Originally posted by q0c0p:
Jets will pay a lot for jimmy. They have a good team. Just missing the qb

Or they can just give up a high draft pick for either Trey or Purdy, and have a cheaper QB for three years with more upside.

Why pay $16 million + for a 31 year old vet with maxed out potential vs. $1 to $8 million for a younger more talented QB?

Jimmy was traded for a 2nd with only 2 starts under his belt, that's less starting experience than either Brock and Trey at this point.

Plus, Jimmy isn't a good fit for the Shanahan system, he'll do better in Las Vegas or New England.

because we aren't going to trade either of them. lol. Neither Lance or Purdy are going anywhere.... JG is available for them. TL and BP are not.

Originally posted by libertyforever:

Originally posted by SinceXVI:

Originally posted by q0c0p:
Jets will pay a lot for jimmy. They have a good team. Just missing the qb

Or they can just give up a high draft pick for either Trey or Purdy, and have a cheaper QB for three years with more upside.

Why pay $16 million + for a 31 year old vet with maxed out potential vs. $1 to $8 million for a younger more talented QB?

Jimmy was traded for a 2nd with only 2 starts under his belt, that's less starting experience than either Brock and Trey at this point.

Plus, Jimmy isn't a good fit for the Shanahan system, he'll do better in Las Vegas or New England.

When Jimmy was traded to SF, he was ready to play. And I think the Patriots could easily have gotten more in the trade if it was done during the off-season.

Trey is nowhere near ready to play. If a team wants to win and compete right away, they should trade for Jimmy and not Trey. Also, people know what Jimm G is, a top 15 QB or close to that.

Trey has a higher ceiling but also a very low floor. He can be a top 5 QB or a complete bust, or anywhere in between.

I doubt the Jets would want another project QB at this time after being burned by Wilson's performance. So I would really doubt they would trade for Trey even if FO were willing to do it.

Originally posted by libertyforever:

Originally posted by SinceXVI:

Originally posted by q0c0p:
Jets will pay a lot for jimmy. They have a good team. Just missing the qb

Or they can just give up a high draft pick for either Trey or Purdy, and have a cheaper QB for three years with more upside.

Why pay $16 million + for a 31 year old vet with maxed out potential vs. $1 to $8 million for a younger more talented QB?

Jimmy was traded for a 2nd with only 2 starts under his belt, that's less starting experience than either Brock and Trey at this point.

Plus, Jimmy isn't a good fit for the Shanahan system, he'll do better in Las Vegas or New England.

When Jimmy was traded to SF, he was ready to play. And I think the Patriots could easily have gotten more in the trade if it was done during the off-season.

Trey is nowhere near ready to play. If a team wants to win and compete right away, they should trade for Jimmy and not Trey. Also, people know what Jimm G is, a top 15 QB or close to that.

Trey has a higher ceiling but also a very low floor. He can be a top 5 QB or a complete bust, or anywhere in between.

Trey's been in the league 2 years. He's ready to play, especially in Mike LaFleur's offense which is identical to the Niners.

He'd be taking over with 3 NFL offseasons, 8 preseason games (Assumed), and 3 starts under his belt, that's more experience than Jimmy when he got here.

And he has put to rest the possibility of him being a bust during his 1st offseason when he learned the playbook right away; threw a 71 yard td on his 1st preseason completion; maintained composure and converted tough 3rd downs even in losses; impressively won a must 'win' game in week 17; and the Niners out gaining opponents in each of his three starts.

QBs are busts when the game proves too much for them to handle both on and off the field and they are permanently out of the league within a 2-3 years.
Think Johny Manzel.

That's unlikely for Lance given that he's shown maturity, work ethic, and has had an impressive game and many eye popping plays.

The Jets would give up a #1 for him.

Originally posted by BoldRedandGold:
Half the fans on this forum be like:

1. Has not lost a game.
2. Up by two scores going into the 4th every game.
3. Hanging 30+ points a game...

Please God let him go 7-1 and lose a playoff game for ammunition

Not good enough let's bring in lance and let him start and see what he does. He has to be better. Don't give purdy the job.

Half the fans? What?! I hardly see anyone if any at all in this forum that doesn't like Purdy. How can you not like him. WTF you talking about

Originally posted by SinceXVI:
Trey's been in the league 2 years. He's ready to play, especially in Mike LaFleur's offense which is identical to the Niners.

He'd be taking over with 3 NFL offseasons, 8 preseason games (Assumed), and 3 starts under his belt, that's more experience than Jimmy when he got here.

And he has put to rest the possibility of him being a bust during his 1st offseason when he learned the playbook right away; threw a 71 yard td on his 1st preseason completion; maintained composure and converted tough 3rd downs even in losses; impressively won a must 'win' game in week 17; and the Niners out gaining opponents in each of his three starts.

QBs are busts when the game proves too much for them to handle both on and off the field and they are permanently out of the league within a 2-3 years.
Think Johny Manzel.

That's unlikely for Lance given that he's shown maturity, work ethic, and has had an impressive game and many eye popping plays.

The Jets would give up a #1 for him.

Originally posted by SinceXVI:

Originally posted by libertyforever:

Originally posted by SinceXVI:

Originally posted by q0c0p:
Jets will pay a lot for jimmy. They have a good team. Just missing the qb

Or they can just give up a high draft pick for either Trey or Purdy, and have a cheaper QB for three years with more upside.

Why pay $16 million + for a 31 year old vet with maxed out potential vs. $1 to $8 million for a younger more talented QB?

Jimmy was traded for a 2nd with only 2 starts under his belt, that's less starting experience than either Brock and Trey at this point.

Plus, Jimmy isn't a good fit for the Shanahan system, he'll do better in Las Vegas or New England.

When Jimmy was traded to SF, he was ready to play. And I think the Patriots could easily have gotten more in the trade if it was done during the off-season.

Trey is nowhere near ready to play. If a team wants to win and compete right away, they should trade for Jimmy and not Trey. Also, people know what Jimm G is, a top 15 QB or close to that.

Trey has a higher ceiling but also a very low floor. He can be a top 5 QB or a complete bust, or anywhere in between.

Trey's been in the league 2 years. He's ready to play, especially in Mike LaFleur's offense which is identical to the Niners.

He'd be taking over with 3 NFL offseasons, 8 preseason games (Assumed), and 3 starts under his belt, that's more experience than Jimmy when he got here.

And he has put to rest the possibility of him being a bust during his 1st offseason when he learned the playbook right away; threw a 71 yard td on his 1st preseason completion; maintained composure and converted tough 3rd downs even in losses; impressively won a must 'win' game in week 17; and the Niners out gaining opponents in each of his three starts.

QBs are busts when the game proves too much for them to handle both on and off the field and they are permanently out of the league within a 2-3 years.
Think Johny Manzel.

That's unlikely for Lance given that he's shown maturity, work ethic, and has had an impressive game and many eye popping plays.

The Jets would give up a #1 for him.

A bust can be someone completely out of the league in a few years, or (for a high 1st round pick), someone only good enough to be a backup in the NFL.

Yes he has more experience than Jimmy when Jimmy got here, but Trey is certainly nowhere near as ready to play than Jimmy at that time. He is still a project, and that is why he has been a disappointment so far. I doubt any team will give up a 1st round pick for him. Maybe a 3rd round pick.

Originally posted by libertyforever:
A bust can be someone completely out of the league in a few years, or (for a high 1st round pick), someone only good enough to be a backup in the NFL.

Yes he has more experience than Jimmy when Jimmy got here, but Trey is certainly nowhere near as ready to play than Jimmy at that time. He is still a project, and that is why he has been a disappointment so far. I doubt any team will give up a 1st round pick for him. Maybe a 3rd round pick.

I'm not a Lance fan by any stretch. But if he stays here I highly doubt he busts. I dont think our offense would look as smoothbas Shanny would want it but i doubt he'd bust.... HERE. Somewhere else with worse coaching and less talent i could see bust potential. At least relative to his draft position.

as for trade doubt. Rumor was ATL liked Lance last year and he would fit the heavy run game Aurthur Smith likes. He could be a fit there. I could see them making an offer. Although with them currently sitting #6 it's highly doubtful.

Washington and TB may be only possible 1st rounders unless ATL or IND trade back in to the back end of the 1st if SF is hell bent on a 1st.

Happy 23rd birthday BCB!

Originally posted by libertyforever:

Originally posted by SinceXVI:

Originally posted by libertyforever:

Originally posted by SinceXVI:

Originally posted by q0c0p:
Jets will pay a lot for jimmy. They have a good team. Just missing the qb

Or they can just give up a high draft pick for either Trey or Purdy, and have a cheaper QB for three years with more upside.

Why pay $16 million + for a 31 year old vet with maxed out potential vs. $1 to $8 million for a younger more talented QB?

Jimmy was traded for a 2nd with only 2 starts under his belt, that's less starting experience than either Brock and Trey at this point.

Plus, Jimmy isn't a good fit for the Shanahan system, he'll do better in Las Vegas or New England.

When Jimmy was traded to SF, he was ready to play. And I think the Patriots could easily have gotten more in the trade if it was done during the off-season.

Trey is nowhere near ready to play. If a team wants to win and compete right away, they should trade for Jimmy and not Trey. Also, people know what Jimm G is, a top 15 QB or close to that.

Trey has a higher ceiling but also a very low floor. He can be a top 5 QB or a complete bust, or anywhere in between.

Trey's been in the league 2 years. He's ready to play, especially in Mike LaFleur's offense which is identical to the Niners.

He'd be taking over with 3 NFL offseasons, 8 preseason games (Assumed), and 3 starts under his belt, that's more experience than Jimmy when he got here.

And he has put to rest the possibility of him being a bust during his 1st offseason when he learned the playbook right away; threw a 71 yard td on his 1st preseason completion; maintained composure and converted tough 3rd downs even in losses; impressively won a must 'win' game in week 17; and the Niners out gaining opponents in each of his three starts.

QBs are busts when the game proves too much for them to handle both on and off the field and they are permanently out of the league within a 2-3 years.
Think Johny Manzel.

That's unlikely for Lance given that he's shown maturity, work ethic, and has had an impressive game and many eye popping plays.

The Jets would give up a #1 for him.

A bust can be someone completely out of the league in a few years, or (for a high 1st round pick), someone only good enough to be a backup in the NFL.

Yes he has more experience than Jimmy when Jimmy got here, but Trey is certainly nowhere near as ready to play than Jimmy at that time. He is still a project, and that is why he has been a disappointment so far. I doubt any team will give up a 1st round pick for him. Maybe a 3rd round pick.

I provided examples of why he's not a project. If you're going to say he's a project, then provide support.

For example, is there a deficient trait that he has such as the inability to read coverages, bad attitude, etc?

I'm curious as to why people say he's a project, raw, etc., when I don't see it?

What I do see is a talented but still inexperienced QB who has shown all the talent and skill to validate being drafted #3, but who didn't get to show it on a consistent basis due to an early season injury.

And yes, the Jets would give up a #1 for him, he's been in their offensive system for 2 years now and played under similar concepts in college unlike Wilson.

Originally posted by SinceXVI:

Originally posted by libertyforever:

Originally posted by SinceXVI:

Originally posted by libertyforever:

Originally posted by SinceXVI:

Originally posted by q0c0p:
Jets will pay a lot for jimmy. They have a good team. Just missing the qb

Or they can just give up a high draft pick for either Trey or Purdy, and have a cheaper QB for three years with more upside.

Why pay $16 million + for a 31 year old vet with maxed out potential vs. $1 to $8 million for a younger more talented QB?

Jimmy was traded for a 2nd with only 2 starts under his belt, that's less starting experience than either Brock and Trey at this point.

Plus, Jimmy isn't a good fit for the Shanahan system, he'll do better in Las Vegas or New England.

When Jimmy was traded to SF, he was ready to play. And I think the Patriots could easily have gotten more in the trade if it was done during the off-season.

Trey is nowhere near ready to play. If a team wants to win and compete right away, they should trade for Jimmy and not Trey. Also, people know what Jimm G is, a top 15 QB or close to that.

Trey has a higher ceiling but also a very low floor. He can be a top 5 QB or a complete bust, or anywhere in between.

Trey's been in the league 2 years. He's ready to play, especially in Mike LaFleur's offense which is identical to the Niners.

He'd be taking over with 3 NFL offseasons, 8 preseason games (Assumed), and 3 starts under his belt, that's more experience than Jimmy when he got here.

And he has put to rest the possibility of him being a bust during his 1st offseason when he learned the playbook right away; threw a 71 yard td on his 1st preseason completion; maintained composure and converted tough 3rd downs even in losses; impressively won a must 'win' game in week 17; and the Niners out gaining opponents in each of his three starts.

QBs are busts when the game proves too much for them to handle both on and off the field and they are permanently out of the league within a 2-3 years.
Think Johny Manzel.

That's unlikely for Lance given that he's shown maturity, work ethic, and has had an impressive game and many eye popping plays.

The Jets would give up a #1 for him.

A bust can be someone completely out of the league in a few years, or (for a high 1st round pick), someone only good enough to be a backup in the NFL.

Yes he has more experience than Jimmy when Jimmy got here, but Trey is certainly nowhere near as ready to play than Jimmy at that time. He is still a project, and that is why he has been a disappointment so far. I doubt any team will give up a 1st round pick for him. Maybe a 3rd round pick.

I provided examples of why he's not a project. If you're going to say he's a project, then provide support.

For example, is there a deficient trait that he has such as the inability to read coverages, bad attitude, etc?

I'm curious as to why people say he's a project, raw, etc., when I don't see it?

What I do see is a talented but still inexperienced QB who has shown all the talent and skill to validate being drafted #3, but who didn't get to show it on a consistent basis due to an early season injury.

And yes, the Jets would give up a #1 for him, he's been in their offensive system for 2 years now and played under similar concepts in college unlike Wilson.

Any time you have an inexperienced, raw QB who hasn't shown much in the NFL, that is by definition, a project.

Kyle to to run him a lot to play him.

Originally posted by krizay:
I'm not a Lance fan by any stretch. But if he stays here I highly doubt he busts. I dont think our offense would look as smoothbas Shanny would want it but i doubt he'd bust.... HERE. Somewhere else with worse coaching and less talent i could see bust potential. At least relative to his draft position.

as for trade doubt. Rumor was ATL liked Lance last year and he would fit the heavy run game Aurthur Smith likes. He could be a fit there. I could see them making an offer. Although with them currently sitting #6 it's highly doubtful.

Washington and TB may be only possible 1st rounders unless ATL or IND trade back in to the back end of the 1st if SF is hell bent on a 1st.

I think people are way too confident with assessing a QB prospect.

Originally posted by libertyforever:
I think people are way too confident with assessing a QB prospect.

I've seen a little less than 4 NFL games from Lance. He was good in his designated plays vs. DET and GB. He was marginal against ARI (with no Mitchell and Kittle), was good against HOU, played better than Fields vs CHI, and looked promising against SEA before the injury.

Brock has been better, no doubt. With a much better team. The team Brock is playing with us the best in the league. None of Lance's starts would qualify.

Originally posted by libertyforever:

Originally posted by SinceXVI:

Originally posted by libertyforever:

Originally posted by SinceXVI:

Originally posted by libertyforever:

Originally posted by SinceXVI:

Originally posted by q0c0p:
Jets will pay a lot for jimmy. They have a good team. Just missing the qb

Or they can just give up a high draft pick for either Trey or Purdy, and have a cheaper QB for three years with more upside.

Why pay $16 million + for a 31 year old vet with maxed out potential vs. $1 to $8 million for a younger more talented QB?

Jimmy was traded for a 2nd with only 2 starts under his belt, that's less starting experience than either Brock and Trey at this point.

Plus, Jimmy isn't a good fit for the Shanahan system, he'll do better in Las Vegas or New England.

When Jimmy was traded to SF, he was ready to play. And I think the Patriots could easily have gotten more in the trade if it was done during the off-season.

Trey is nowhere near ready to play. If a team wants to win and compete right away, they should trade for Jimmy and not Trey. Also, people know what Jimm G is, a top 15 QB or close to that.

Trey has a higher ceiling but also a very low floor. He can be a top 5 QB or a complete bust, or anywhere in between.

Trey's been in the league 2 years. He's ready to play, especially in Mike LaFleur's offense which is identical to the Niners.

He'd be taking over with 3 NFL offseasons, 8 preseason games (Assumed), and 3 starts under his belt, that's more experience than Jimmy when he got here.

And he has put to rest the possibility of him being a bust during his 1st offseason when he learned the playbook right away; threw a 71 yard td on his 1st preseason completion; maintained composure and converted tough 3rd downs even in losses; impressively won a must 'win' game in week 17; and the Niners out gaining opponents in each of his three starts.

QBs are busts when the game proves too much for them to handle both on and off the field and they are permanently out of the league within a 2-3 years.
Think Johny Manzel.

That's unlikely for Lance given that he's shown maturity, work ethic, and has had an impressive game and many eye popping plays.

The Jets would give up a #1 for him.

A bust can be someone completely out of the league in a few years, or (for a high 1st round pick), someone only good enough to be a backup in the NFL.

Yes he has more experience than Jimmy when Jimmy got here, but Trey is certainly nowhere near as ready to play than Jimmy at that time. He is still a project, and that is why he has been a disappointment so far. I doubt any team will give up a 1st round pick for him. Maybe a 3rd round pick.

I provided examples of why he's not a project. If you're going to say he's a project, then provide support.

For example, is there a deficient trait that he has such as the inability to read coverages, bad attitude, etc?

I'm curious as to why people say he's a project, raw, etc., when I don't see it?

What I do see is a talented but still inexperienced QB who has shown all the talent and skill to validate being drafted #3, but who didn't get to show it on a consistent basis due to an early season injury.

And yes, the Jets would give up a #1 for him, he's been in their offensive system for 2 years now and played under similar concepts in college unlike Wilson.

Any time you have an inexperienced, raw QB who hasn't shown much in the NFL, that is by definition, a project.

That is not how pro scouts or coaches would define a project.

Lance was actually considered more pro ready than other QBs who took more snaps coming out since he ran an offense with pro passing and pass protection concepts.

That's one of the reasons why he had already learned the playbook by the time his 1st training camp started.

Project means needing to learn basic concepts like setting protections, recognizing blitzes, reading defenses,etc. Those are things Lance already knew when drafted.

And in regards to experience, look at his improvement on slant passes.

He still misses some, but has improved significantly from the KC preseason game. He's not a project, but a quality QB who could win games immediately.

Originally posted by SinceXVI:

Originally posted by libertyforever:

Originally posted by SinceXVI:

Originally posted by libertyforever:

Originally posted by SinceXVI:

Originally posted by libertyforever:

Originally posted by SinceXVI:

Originally posted by q0c0p:
Jets will pay a lot for jimmy. They have a good team. Just missing the qb

Or they can just give up a high draft pick for either Trey or Purdy, and have a cheaper QB for three years with more upside.

Why pay $16 million + for a 31 year old vet with maxed out potential vs. $1 to $8 million for a younger more talented QB?

Jimmy was traded for a 2nd with only 2 starts under his belt, that's less starting experience than either Brock and Trey at this point.

Plus, Jimmy isn't a good fit for the Shanahan system, he'll do better in Las Vegas or New England.

When Jimmy was traded to SF, he was ready to play. And I think the Patriots could easily have gotten more in the trade if it was done during the off-season.

Trey is nowhere near ready to play. If a team wants to win and compete right away, they should trade for Jimmy and not Trey. Also, people know what Jimm G is, a top 15 QB or close to that.

Trey has a higher ceiling but also a very low floor. He can be a top 5 QB or a complete bust, or anywhere in between.

Trey's been in the league 2 years. He's ready to play, especially in Mike LaFleur's offense which is identical to the Niners.

He'd be taking over with 3 NFL offseasons, 8 preseason games (Assumed), and 3 starts under his belt, that's more experience than Jimmy when he got here.

And he has put to rest the possibility of him being a bust during his 1st offseason when he learned the playbook right away; threw a 71 yard td on his 1st preseason completion; maintained composure and converted tough 3rd downs even in losses; impressively won a must 'win' game in week 17; and the Niners out gaining opponents in each of his three starts.

QBs are busts when the game proves too much for them to handle both on and off the field and they are permanently out of the league within a 2-3 years.
Think Johny Manzel.

That's unlikely for Lance given that he's shown maturity, work ethic, and has had an impressive game and many eye popping plays.

The Jets would give up a #1 for him.

A bust can be someone completely out of the league in a few years, or (for a high 1st round pick), someone only good enough to be a backup in the NFL.

Yes he has more experience than Jimmy when Jimmy got here, but Trey is certainly nowhere near as ready to play than Jimmy at that time. He is still a project, and that is why he has been a disappointment so far. I doubt any team will give up a 1st round pick for him. Maybe a 3rd round pick.

I provided examples of why he's not a project. If you're going to say he's a project, then provide support.

For example, is there a deficient trait that he has such as the inability to read coverages, bad attitude, etc?

I'm curious as to why people say he's a project, raw, etc., when I don't see it?

What I do see is a talented but still inexperienced QB who has shown all the talent and skill to validate being drafted #3, but who didn't get to show it on a consistent basis due to an early season injury.

And yes, the Jets would give up a #1 for him, he's been in their offensive system for 2 years now and played under similar concepts in college unlike Wilson.

Any time you have an inexperienced, raw QB who hasn't shown much in the NFL, that is by definition, a project.

That is not how pro scouts or coaches would define a project.

Lance was actually considered more pro ready than other QBs who took more snaps coming out since he ran an offense with pro passing and pass protection concepts.

That's one of the reasons why he had already learned the playbook by the time his 1st training camp started.

Project means needing to learn basic concepts like setting protections, recognizing blitzes, reading defenses,etc. Those are things Lance already knew when drafted.

And in regards to experience, look at his improvement on slant passes.

He still misses some, but has improved significantly from the KC preseason game. He's not a project, but a quality QB who could win games immediately.

If we have a different definition of the term project. That is fine. Not a topic really worth continue discussing, at least for me.