QB Brock Purdy Thread

Originally posted by 9erson3:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by 9erson3:

Originally posted by YACBros85:
If Purdy plays well through the playoffs, it should be an open competition between those 2 when spring rolls around. Nothing in this league is given. Everything is earned.

Brock has played awesome all. I won't call myself an expert QB evaluator nor will I pretend to have a crystal ball, but not talking floor, as Brock is clearly ahead of Trey due to time on field, I would bet that those who do evaluate QBs and 49ers front office probably feel that Treys ceiling is higher. Maybe much higher.

This will not be proven one way or the other until Trey has played a minimum of one year. 17 games plus and no injuries. Trey is green and OTAs will prove nothing. And competition will do nothing to advance his play time. He needs a minimum of one season to play. When all this starts late spring you can bet these words come out of Kyle's mouth. Just as they did for Jimmy. "Trey is our starting QB" next question. "Trey is our starting QB" next question.

Redzone. I don't believe Kyle. Kyle sucks.

So you are willing let the offense take a step back in order to let Trey grow into the QB position? I am not sure how guys like Trent, Kittle and Deebo would feel about that. I am sure that those guys feel the SB window is open now. If Purdy turns out to be the guy, why waste his best years riding the pine? This is all moot at the moment obviously. And like I said, Trey may hit the ground running next season and there will be no drop off in production.

His best years? I'm not sure he shaves yet Injuries aside, our SB window has been open since 2019 and will probably still be open in 2025 and beyond. If it takes a year to develop Trey then yeah, I'd be on-board.

And again, I'm thrilled Brock has came out and helped us. Love the kid. But I love Trey too and his canon arm. Let's just admit we seem to be in a good place and let it ride out.

Poor choice of words on my part. What I mean is if Purdy turns out to be the better QB, I don't want to waste the next couple of seasons on Trey just to realize he isn't the guy.

Originally posted by VaBeachNiner:

Originally posted by mayo49:
This kid has just to keep doing what he's been doing. It's all in front of him to be the greatest NFL story ever told.

LOL.

Originally posted by YACBros85:
Poor choice of words on my part. What I mean is if Purdy turns out to be the better QB, I don't want to waste the next couple of seasons on Trey just to realize he isn't the guy.

we can easily have both guys the next three years. we are good at the position!

Originally posted by NotAFinga42:
Are you serious? You asked and answered your own question there, bud.

How?

Originally posted by Pillbusta:

Originally posted by YACBros85:
Poor choice of words on my part. What I mean is if Purdy turns out to be the better QB, I don't want to waste the next couple of seasons on Trey just to realize he isn't the guy.

we can easily have both guys the next three years. we are good at the position!

We got Brock at the last pick of the draft. Just look at like we're paying Brock Trey's contract and and Trey's Brock's contract. Keep both the next 3 years than commit to Brock if he's still winning. Trade Trey for picks or let him walk and get a comp pick for him.

Originally posted by mayo49:

Originally posted by Pillbusta:

Originally posted by YACBros85:
Poor choice of words on my part. What I mean is if Purdy turns out to be the better QB, I don't want to waste the next couple of seasons on Trey just to realize he isn't the guy.

we can easily have both guys the next three years. we are good at the position!

We got Brock at the last pick of the draft. Just look at like we're paying Brock Trey's contract and and Trey's Brock's contract. Keep both the next 3 years than commit to Brock if he's still winning. Trade Trey for picks or let him walk and get a comp pick for him.

From what another post said, and idk if it's 100% right, we would have a ton of dead cap if we traded him.

Assuming Purdy continues to play at or near his current level and all that - I wouldn't trade Trey unless it was a ridiculous offer. I don't think Trey should be just handed the job back if Purdy continues, but he is still young, talented, and would incur a lot of dead cap.. We should keep him and continue to groom him. Let him push Purdy. If he eventually is better, then Trey should start.

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
I'm sure the 49ers want Trey to be the starter since he was a high draft pick and he has that high ceiling based on arm strength and mobility. I also believe that they like what they've seen from Purdy and will probably let the two compete in camp next year. Purdy already had an edge in experience and if he makes it through the playoffs his experience will be at an even higher level. Trey has a lot of catching up to do. It's possible that we could see some alternating at QB early next season.

From what I have seen of both of them, Lance does not have an edge in mobility. Purdy is nimble, and smooth, and sets up defenders very well on rollouts. It has been a while, but I don't recall Lance having those characteristics.

As to arm strength; the knock on Purdy as to arm strength is not valid. He has shown plenty of arm strength to get the ball where it needs to go when it needs to get there. No, we haven't seen him throw it 60 yards yet, however, but he has thrown some darts into tight windows that were all arm with limited space to step into the throw. As the season goes on, I wouldn't be surprised to see Kyle will dial up some longer throws just to see how it goes, however, Kyle has likely already seen enough to know what he has.

In the end, Trey does have a lot of catching up to do and there won't be a lot of time given over to that with this team chasing Lombardis.

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by mayo49:

Originally posted by Pillbusta:

Originally posted by YACBros85:
Poor choice of words on my part. What I mean is if Purdy turns out to be the better QB, I don't want to waste the next couple of seasons on Trey just to realize he isn't the guy.

we can easily have both guys the next three years. we are good at the position!

We got Brock at the last pick of the draft. Just look at like we're paying Brock Trey's contract and and Trey's Brock's contract. Keep both the next 3 years than commit to Brock if he's still winning. Trade Trey for picks or let him walk and get a comp pick for him.

From what another post said, and idk if it's 100% right, we would have a ton of dead cap if we traded him.

Assuming Purdy continues to play at or near his current level and all that - I wouldn't trade Trey unless it was a ridiculous offer. I don't think Trey should be just handed the job back if Purdy continues, but he is still young, talented, and would incur a lot of dead cap.. We should keep him and continue to groom him. Let him push Purdy. If he eventually is better, then Trey should start.

I concur, we've got good options. Non the less, the future looks good.

Originally posted by dj43:
In the end, Trey does have a lot of catching up to do and there won't be a lot of time given over to that with this team chasing Lombardis.

We really don't know what catching up he has to do because we haven't seen him for an extended period of time. For all we know, come the Spring he is ahead in terms of being able to efficiently move the ball with the offense.

It's just an unknown. And the staff will give every opportunity to find out what's there, given what they invested in. I don't think pegging him the starter next year means you've sacrificed a run @ a Lombardi because the backup is still under contract for years to come. He can be hooked in a New York minute the moment the staff might feel we are leaving a bunch of points on the board.

Just my guess but I feel like the players are really rallying around Brock. The amount of respect the kid is getting, especially playing with an injury, is stunning. I know Jimmy is a favorite in the locker room, and one of the reasons why pundits and fans alike wanted Jimmy out this offseason was bc of the fear that the locker room could be divided if Lance struggled.

But with Brock it seems like the entire team is all in. I don't think (if Brock takes them deep into the playoffs) that they'd appreciate Kyle and Lynch pulling him next season just so they can start the toy they paid a lot for just for the sake that they paid a lot for him rather than skill set.

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by 9erson3:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by 9erson3:

Originally posted by YACBros85:
If Purdy plays well through the playoffs, it should be an open competition between those 2 when spring rolls around. Nothing in this league is given. Everything is earned.

Brock has played awesome all. I won't call myself an expert QB evaluator nor will I pretend to have a crystal ball, but not talking floor, as Brock is clearly ahead of Trey due to time on field, I would bet that those who do evaluate QBs and 49ers front office probably feel that Treys ceiling is higher. Maybe much higher.

This will not be proven one way or the other until Trey has played a minimum of one year. 17 games plus and no injuries. Trey is green and OTAs will prove nothing. And competition will do nothing to advance his play time. He needs a minimum of one season to play. When all this starts late spring you can bet these words come out of Kyle's mouth. Just as they did for Jimmy. "Trey is our starting QB" next question. "Trey is our starting QB" next question.

Redzone. I don't believe Kyle. Kyle sucks.

So you are willing let the offense take a step back in order to let Trey grow into the QB position? I am not sure how guys like Trent, Kittle and Deebo would feel about that. I am sure that those guys feel the SB window is open now. If Purdy turns out to be the guy, why waste his best years riding the pine? This is all moot at the moment obviously. And like I said, Trey may hit the ground running next season and there will be no drop off in production.

His best years? I'm not sure he shaves yet Injuries aside, our SB window has been open since 2019 and will probably still be open in 2025 and beyond. If it takes a year to develop Trey then yeah, I'd be on-board.

And again, I'm thrilled Brock has came out and helped us. Love the kid. But I love Trey too and his canon arm. Let's just admit we seem to be in a good place and let it ride out.

Poor choice of words on my part. What I mean is if Purdy turns out to be the better QB, I don't want to waste the next couple of seasons on Trey just to realize he isn't the guy.

I said this a little while ago but I also felt like the team vets were a little disappointed that we were going with Trey over Jimmy.

that says a lot because they played Trey on the scout team all year, so I think they have a good idea on where he is or what he's capable of right now. I think that's why they're so high on Purdy, they saw what he could do all season against them.

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by NotAFinga42:

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by Sickaa:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by YACBros85:
My only issue with a 3 man race is that none of them will get adequate reps in OTA's/TC.

Man, all 3 guys in open competion to start? Kyle nearly blew a gasket with Trey/Jimmy with all the media questions. I don't see it.

On the flip side, if it somehow worked out like that, Kyle might not give af too much because he simply wants the best QB room he can get. And that mentality saved this season.

I don't see there being a competition at all next season. Lance will named starter by default, with Purdy backing him up.

No matter what?

If Purdy ends the season playing well and showing efficiency moving the offense then an open competition is the way to go imo. If Lance is out there making bonehead reads, the vets on the team will be wondering why they have to watch this while a better QB is sitting on the bench. Trent Williams ain't got time for that.

Right, and as fans we should all want the best QB leading this team. I don't think Brock will beat Trey in an open comp, but if he really is better then he's the guy I want starting. I trust Kyle to put the best guy out there.

Outside of the fact we spent a bunch of picks to get Lance, what has he done or shown where he deserves or is entitled to a chance? I'm not blaming him for this situation and I think he's a wonderful kid with tons of potential, but I haven't seen him show much ability to be able to unlock it. He is big and fast but idk if I consider him "mobile", he isn't quick or agile.

im not worried about a QB competition and if Lance is better, he should start. Overall in my eyes, Lance has shown next to nothing during his time here that tells me he is going to be a great quarterback - so I don't think Lance currently stands a chance to win an open qb competition vs Purdy - not with what Purdy is doing, and you'd have to think he is only going to get better?

It's a tricky situation, especially if Purdy ends this season looking efficient while sprinkling in some playmaking ability. I am a believer that SB windows are short, especially on a team where the QB is not the focal point of the offense/team. I would be willing to take some lumps to let Lance develop but we don't know how long that will take. Is it a one year thing? Is it a 6 game "tryout" during the 2023 season to see how quickly Lance progresses while knowing they have Purdy in their back pocket?

I no longer care where each QB was selected. Brock is showing he can operate this offense, and maximize the result on some plays - that was the missing element with Jimmy imo. This team has too many playmakers in their prime to dick around and see if a project QB is the long term answer when they need an answer at QB right now. I'll trust Kyle to make the right call since he is in the meeting rooms with these guys. I think he is putting more weight on "win now" than "build for the future".

Originally posted by tankle104:
I said this a little while ago but I also felt like the team vets were a little disappointed that we were going with Trey over Jimmy.

What led you to feeling this way? For starters, Jimmy was injured and there were no volunteers from vets to help overpay for the money that Jimmy was due. He reduced his payout drastically to stay. I wouldn't quite peg it as us going with one over the other, given the situation.

But beyond that,...I've seen a bunch of intel that suggests the opposite of what you're saying, so I wouldn't mind reading what I may have missed?

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by 9erson3:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by 9erson3:

Originally posted by YACBros85:
If Purdy plays well through the playoffs, it should be an open competition between those 2 when spring rolls around. Nothing in this league is given. Everything is earned.

Brock has played awesome all. I won't call myself an expert QB evaluator nor will I pretend to have a crystal ball, but not talking floor, as Brock is clearly ahead of Trey due to time on field, I would bet that those who do evaluate QBs and 49ers front office probably feel that Treys ceiling is higher. Maybe much higher.

This will not be proven one way or the other until Trey has played a minimum of one year. 17 games plus and no injuries. Trey is green and OTAs will prove nothing. And competition will do nothing to advance his play time. He needs a minimum of one season to play. When all this starts late spring you can bet these words come out of Kyle's mouth. Just as they did for Jimmy. "Trey is our starting QB" next question. "Trey is our starting QB" next question.

Redzone. I don't believe Kyle. Kyle sucks.

So you are willing let the offense take a step back in order to let Trey grow into the QB position? I am not sure how guys like Trent, Kittle and Deebo would feel about that. I am sure that those guys feel the SB window is open now. If Purdy turns out to be the guy, why waste his best years riding the pine? This is all moot at the moment obviously. And like I said, Trey may hit the ground running next season and there will be no drop off in production.

His best years? I'm not sure he shaves yet Injuries aside, our SB window has been open since 2019 and will probably still be open in 2025 and beyond. If it takes a year to develop Trey then yeah, I'd be on-board.

And again, I'm thrilled Brock has came out and helped us. Love the kid. But I love Trey too and his canon arm. Let's just admit we seem to be in a good place and let it ride out.

Poor choice of words on my part. What I mean is if Purdy turns out to be the better QB, I don't want to waste the next couple of seasons on Trey just to realize he isn't the guy.

I said this a little while ago but I also felt like the team vets were a little disappointed that we were going with Trey over Jimmy.

that says a lot because they played Trey on the scout team all year, so I think they have a good idea on where he is or what he's capable of right now. I think that's why they're so high on Purdy, they saw what he could do all season against them.

Wasn't there an article about Warner yelling at Trey last year bc he wouldn't take chances on the scout team and just played safe ? Then there were reports that Shanny told Trey to work on his mechanics in the offseason. He truly is a project QB. We have time to build him up, and knowing our history with injuries, he'll get his chance sooner or later.

advantage Brock going into 2023 with Trey on his heels knowing that if Brock goes down he has his opportunity to impress and take over the team.

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by NotAFinga42:
Are you serious? You asked and answered your own question there, bud.

How?

The fact we spent 3 first round picks on Trey is at the very least enough to give him a chance at competition. Do you really suggest we get rid of him without giving him a chance to compete after seeing 3 games from Brock? That's dumber than giving Jimmy $120 million after just 5 games.