QB Brock Purdy Thread

Originally posted by riverrunzthruit:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by riverrunzthruit:

#49ers HC Kyle Shanahan says Brock Purdy will be allowed to start throwing sometime next week.

— Taylor Bisciotti (@TaylorBisciotti) May 23, 2023

Hopefully it's Monday! So I can be right about being ahead of schedule. Miahahaha even if it's only a few days

Trey Lance fans pic.twitter.com/N37qwfr9jK

— Dave Heilman (@DynastyDorks) May 23, 2023

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Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by riverrunzthruit:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by riverrunzthruit:

#49ers HC Kyle Shanahan says Brock Purdy will be allowed to start throwing sometime next week.

— Taylor Bisciotti (@TaylorBisciotti) May 23, 2023

Hopefully it's Monday! So I can be right about being ahead of schedule. Miahahaha even if it's only a few days

Trey Lance fans pic.twitter.com/N37qwfr9jK

— Dave Heilman (@DynastyDorks) May 23, 2023

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Lmao im just teasing. I saw it on the tweet above as a reply. Thought it was funny. Lance looks much improved. Let's hope it continues in the games

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Furlow:

He's right about what? Jimmy's advanced stats in one game were equal to or better than Purdy's over a 7-8 game stretch? What kind of comparison is that? Not to mention, it was ridiculously obvious how much better Purdy was than Jimmy.

But this is where we are. The Trey fans are so hell bent on minimizing Purdy, they are now embracing and lifting up Jimmy to attempt to make that happen. Lol it's funny at this point.

One game? I'm talking about his last 4 starts with CMC. Jimmy's numbers were legit good.

why do you ya'll resort to "Lance fans" or "Brock haters"? That's childish s**t imo. I'm in the Brock thread talking about Brock. If we're gonna go down that road why are you minimizing what Jimmy did with CMC his last 4 starts. Last I checked completing 73% of your passes, having a QB rating of 113.5, avg 230 yards and having 8 TDs to zero INTs in 4 games was pretty freaking good. Or do those kind of stats only apply to Brock?

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:

The stat that stands out to me is their playoff performance.

Jimmy's 6 playoff games combined stats compared to Purdy's first playoff game lol... its mind boggling... I'll try to find the stats and post. Found it.....

NOTICE: Analysis needs to be data-based. Do not cherry-pick data. It prohibits clear thinking and you will be called out on it. The offense under Purdy improved by over 10 points per game. He was the top passer in the NFL from when he entered the NFL. pic.twitter.com/pVov8sCxtq

— Ben Crittenden (@Crito12345) January 30, 2023

its in the tweet lol... crazy...

We all know Jimmy was awful in the playoffs. I would hope we all want better there. Also why didn't he include all of Brock's playoff games like he did with Jimmy? I think a lot of us are talking about Jimmy when he had CMC, which is what Brock had as well. This dude talks about cherry picking but is doing it in his own right lol.

Like others said the scoring improvement was do to Brock's crazy TD%. That's a stat that imo can change awful quickly year to year. Hopefully it doesn't and he just becomes the highest TD% of all-time lol…but I do think it's reasonable to assume some sort of regression there.

Yeah, I'm sure he will come down some. We can't expect him to break a ton of TD records like he did continually. Lol as long as it's still in the top 5, I'm good with that.

i think it's naive to assume it won't come down. Lol but it would be amazing if it didn't

For sure. Film is out there now. Tendencies. DC's already know Kyle and now have an off season to plan for Brock. The good news is everyone in the world knew Kyle + Jimmy and still couldn't stop them so I don't expect a major drop off for Purdy either.

As a fan base we gotta be smart about all of it…when someone is having wildTD% and a crazy TD/INT ratio in a small sample size, you have to prepare for regression to the mean a little (or a lot who knows).

Originally posted by TheWooLick:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Furlow:
He's right about what? Jimmy's advanced stats in one game were equal to or better than Purdy's over a 7-8 game stretch? What kind of comparison is that? Not to mention, it was ridiculously obvious how much better Purdy was than Jimmy.

But this is where we are. The Trey fans are so hell bent on minimizing Purdy, they are now embracing and lifting up Jimmy to attempt to make that happen. Lol it's funny at this point.

One game? I'm talking about his last 4 starts with CMC. Jimmy's numbers were legit good.

why do you ya'll resort to "Lance fans" or "Brock haters"? That's childish s**t imo. I'm in the Brock thread talking about Brock. If we're gonna go down that road why are you minimizing what Jimmy did with CMC his last 4 starts. Last I checked completing 73% of your passes, having a QB rating of 113.5, avg 230 yards and having 8 TDs to zero INTs in 4 games was pretty freaking good. Or do those kind of stats only apply to Brock?

What is your point here?

Originally posted by riverrunzthruit:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by riverrunzthruit:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by riverrunzthruit:

#49ers HC Kyle Shanahan says Brock Purdy will be allowed to start throwing sometime next week.

— Taylor Bisciotti (@TaylorBisciotti) May 23, 2023

Hopefully it's Monday! So I can be right about being ahead of schedule. Miahahaha even if it's only a few days

Trey Lance fans pic.twitter.com/N37qwfr9jK

— Dave Heilman (@DynastyDorks) May 23, 2023

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Lmao im just teasing. I saw it on the tweet above as a reply. Thought it was funny. Lance looks much improved. Let's hope it continues in the games

no worries bro I was jus messin wit chu

Originally posted by 49ers808:

Originally posted by TheWooLick:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Furlow:
He's right about what? Jimmy's advanced stats in one game were equal to or better than Purdy's over a 7-8 game stretch? What kind of comparison is that? Not to mention, it was ridiculously obvious how much better Purdy was than Jimmy.

But this is where we are. The Trey fans are so hell bent on minimizing Purdy, they are now embracing and lifting up Jimmy to attempt to make that happen. Lol it's funny at this point.

One game? I'm talking about his last 4 starts with CMC. Jimmy's numbers were legit good.

why do you ya'll resort to "Lance fans" or "Brock haters"? That's childish s**t imo. I'm in the Brock thread talking about Brock. If we're gonna go down that road why are you minimizing what Jimmy did with CMC his last 4 starts. Last I checked completing 73% of your passes, having a QB rating of 113.5, avg 230 yards and having 8 TDs to zero INTs in 4 games was pretty freaking good. Or do those kind of stats only apply to Brock?

What is your point here?

His point is that you and Furlow are no longer choosing Jimmy

Originally posted by Furlow:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by 9moon:
NOT sure about you guys, but I'd wait until B-Rock completes a season or three before putting him over Grappy..

that's exactly what I am saying, it's about the resume and body of work
this imo is why Sam is here
not the body of work, but 55 career starts is significant imo, that is experience, TL and BP don't have that put together, not even close, JG had 57

Bro you had dozens of posts about the low percentage of games that Jimmy was able to start; that is absolutely a part of his resume. Purdy had a freak injury, one in a million type thing. He seems to built much more stoutly that Jimmy, I don't think he'll have the injury problems that Jimmy did.

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by 9moon:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by 9moon:
NOT sure about you guys, but I'd wait until B-Rock completes a season or three before putting him over Grappy..

that's exactly what I am saying, it's about the resume and body of work
this imo is why Sam is here
not the body of work, but 55 career starts is significant imo, that is experience, TL and BP don't have that put together, not even close, JG had 57

it's just common sense..

We're all hoping that B-Rock can be the next Joe and Tom.. but we need to wait and see before giving him any type of crown..

The City of Green Bay once though that Majik was the Man.

tbh, after the SB with Suggs calling CK The Truth, and how he played that year, I thought he was
boy, was I wrong

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by riverrunzthruit:

#49ers HC Kyle Shanahan says Brock Purdy will be allowed to start throwing sometime next week.

— Taylor Bisciotti (@TaylorBisciotti) May 23, 2023

Hopefully it's Monday! So I can be right about being ahead of schedule. Miahahaha even if it's only a few days

Originally posted by NYniner85:

"Kyle, will Brock Purdy be ready at the start of 49ers training camp??"

Kyle Shanahan: pic.twitter.com/BLUX8Xzhuz

— Jose Sanchez III (@JSanchezFN) May 23, 2023

😂

Originally posted by All22:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
Sounds like we need better advanced stats...

In the interim:
QBR with McCaffrey:
Jimmy: 40.5, 76.4, 58.1, 78.0, 82.0. Avg: 67.0
Purdy: 56.5, 93.0, 64.8, 61.6, 67.9, 51.7, 89.5, 53.3. Avg: 67.2.

So I'd say in QBR Purdy was slightly better, had better best games, including one elite game and one nearly elite game, no below average games (50 is average IIRC), but had more games closer to a little above average and Jimmy had more games a lot above average. Whereas Jimmy had one below average game and two games far above average, one really very good game.

But the main difference between them is Purdy's TD%, which was a ridiculous 7.6%.

Yeah, it seemed like we scored at will with Brock under center. What was his lowest scoring game? 23 or so?

Idk what it was exactly but I thought it was clear that Brock played, and operated the offense, better than Jimmy. I thought Jimmy was playing his best ball too. Some say it was CMC, and I'm sure that's a core factor, but Jimmy had CMC while he was still getting comfortable with the offense. On the other hand, Brock was an inexperienced rookie with essentially no reps all year.

You'd think Jimmy would of benefited more than Brock because CMC is an all-pro vet and Jimmy is a Vet. But instead a rookie with essentially no team reps got the most out of CMC (and everyone else).

i think Brock's special. Idk why anyone would rather play someone else over him if he's healthy. I really think we lucked out and found very special qb.

Because he didn't seem special to the eye. Yes, He added some escapability we haven't seen since Jeff Garcia but he also had a number of throws that should've been easy picks for the defense, his release and processing is noticeably slower than Jimmy, and that spin and roll left thing he does got extremely predictable at the end.

Not to mention most of the offensive improvement can reasonably be attributed to CMC (and Mitchell).

It wouldn't surprise me if "the book" on him made its way around the league this off-season and his performance dropped off a cliff. Remember how good Kaepernick was in the beginning?

Originally posted by riverrunzthruit:

#49ers HC Kyle Shanahan says Brock Purdy will be allowed to start throwing sometime next week.

— Taylor Bisciotti (@TaylorBisciotti) May 23, 2023

Originally posted by 49ers808:

Originally posted by TheWooLick:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Furlow:
He's right about what? Jimmy's advanced stats in one game were equal to or better than Purdy's over a 7-8 game stretch? What kind of comparison is that? Not to mention, it was ridiculously obvious how much better Purdy was than Jimmy.

But this is where we are. The Trey fans are so hell bent on minimizing Purdy, they are now embracing and lifting up Jimmy to attempt to make that happen. Lol it's funny at this point.

One game? I'm talking about his last 4 starts with CMC. Jimmy's numbers were legit good.

why do you ya'll resort to "Lance fans" or "Brock haters"? That's childish s**t imo. I'm in the Brock thread talking about Brock. If we're gonna go down that road why are you minimizing what Jimmy did with CMC his last 4 starts. Last I checked completing 73% of your passes, having a QB rating of 113.5, avg 230 yards and having 8 TDs to zero INTs in 4 games was pretty freaking good. Or do those kind of stats only apply to Brock?

What is your point here?

His point is that you and Furlow are no longer choosing Jimmy