Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by tankle104:
I'll admit, I thought Jimmy was going to be great. I was wrong. And?
they're not apples to apples situations though and doesn't mean that what Brock did wasn't incredible, especially for a rookie. It's fine that you have your doubts about Brock's potential. Same way I have my doubts about treys potential.
i just don't understand how you're so confident in Lance, without any proof he can be great, but doubt Purdy after he did some great things?
Like I said the situation Jimmy got tossed into was MUCH worse and saying anything other than that is silly. We all got sold snake oil. I'm not doing that s**t again until I see it over a full season. Dude was doing the same stuff Brock was and a much much much worse team.
it's not about confidence. It's about giving him a chance to fail before proclaiming he's a failure. And save me the whole we can't develop a QB because we're trying to win a Super Bowl crap. We're doing the same s**t with Brock. He's gonna have his ups and downs. A lot of those dropped INTS and PBUs could very well become INTS next time (same as Jimmy) and then what? Ya'll expect him to do with exactly what he did for a couple games going forward….that's his baseline anything less is a failure, at least that how it's been for a lot fans in here for all our players.
as far as Lance goes, whether you want to admit it or not, he's talented. He's hard working. He's smart on many different levels. He was a top 3 pick for a reason. When he did play he didn't look lost, at least for a kid that hasn't played meaningful football since 2019. He just lacks reps. He has a very good chance at being the starter WK1. After that who knows what will happen. That's the life of a 49ers QB for the past two decades.
I think Trey definitely looked lost. Being intelligent isn't enough sometimes, I've said it a million times, you have to see and process the game a certain way. Being intelligent and knowing what to do is very different from identifying and reacting. You can't be out there thinking or that split second it takes to think about something prevents you from hitting the tight windows etc.
alex smith is a super intelligent and hard working guy, but he didn't see the game properly. He almost always took what the defense game him, was horrible in the redzone and third downs. There is a reason for that. alex even once said publically "I don't even know what "make a play" even means." That's the problem with players who have to think out there.
needs to be instinctual. Just about every single qb in the nfl are really smart guys, you have to be to play the position.
if Lance didn't look lost out there then why can't he put up more points? Why did he struggle so much in the redzone? Third down? Why has he only managed to complete 55% of his passes In the most QB friendly offense in the nfl with great coaches and players around him? Rain? Lol come on man.
go back and watch all of treys film objectively, it isn't pretty. He struggled to do menial things right now. He needs a lot of in game experience because he's literally never had to run an offense like this his entire life.
he can do it, I believe it, but I believe he's a game manager and will need a lot more experience to get there. Something I don't see him getting here. He has to run to be effective as a qb and that just puts him at much more risk of Re injury.
if I'm wrong, then I'm wrong. Im not, but it's possible. He needs to be in a situation where he can make a ton of mistakes and learn it the hard way because he never did that before and has such little game experience
of course he is unknown at this point but there's literally 0 evidence to support that he can be a great qb.
[ Edited by tankle104 on Apr 22, 2023 at 12:33 PM ]