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Brandon Aiyuk is a Quitter! Pick #25, 2020 NFL Draft
Aug 12, 2024 at 8:20 PM
- Monsterniner
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In 2022 we went 3-0 whitout Deebo but some reason the entire fanbase forgot it
Aug 12, 2024 at 8:24 PM
- tankle104
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Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Every game
@49ers without Brandon Aiyuk in 2023:
— it's Jasmin🏈 (@jasmindear_) August 12, 2024
450 YPG | 30 PPG | 1-0 record@49ers without Deebo Samuel in 2023:
333 YPG | 17 PPG | 0-3 record pic.twitter.com/GYlOqslGpN
Deebo was out in a very similar time period to TRENT WILLIAMS. What really makes the offense go. Try again.
Trent being out is nothing to do with Deebo. But it tanks our whole offense. We saw that last year. When we can't protect Purdy can't pass. All stats go down and we lose.
Deebo, CMC, and Trent were all injured and/or out during that three game stretch.
the defense was horrific too, couldn't fight its way out of a wet paper bag.
Purdy wasn't great but was far from the problem. Outside of when he got a concussion in the Vikings games, he was pretty good.
deebo is extremely important to this offense. Aiyuk is obviously a really good player but I think deebo stresses defenses more.
Aug 12, 2024 at 8:32 PM
- SanDiego49er
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Originally posted by tankle104:
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Every game
@49ers without Brandon Aiyuk in 2023:
— it's Jasmin🏈 (@jasmindear_) August 12, 2024
450 YPG | 30 PPG | 1-0 record@49ers without Deebo Samuel in 2023:
333 YPG | 17 PPG | 0-3 record pic.twitter.com/GYlOqslGpN
Deebo was out in a very similar time period to TRENT WILLIAMS. What really makes the offense go. Try again.
Trent being out is nothing to do with Deebo. But it tanks our whole offense. We saw that last year. When we can't protect Purdy can't pass. All stats go down and we lose.
Deebo, CMC, and Trent were all injured and/or out during that three game stretch.
the defense was horrific too, couldn't fight its way out of a wet paper bag.
Purdy wasn't great but was far from the problem. Outside of when he got a concussion in the Vikings games, he was pretty good.
deebo is extremely important to this offense. Aiyuk is obviously a really good player but I think deebo stresses defenses more.
It's ABSOLUTELY HUGE to say Trent Williams and CMC were out. While our defensive coordinator was horrific. Yes he had a horrific stretch there. We all remember the Vikings game.
Then point to "Deebo was out. So Aiyuk can't perform without him."
That's just BLATANTLY ignoring the situation in reality to try to force a point that you want to believe. Like he does. But the evidence doesn't support it.
[ Edited by SanDiego49er on Aug 12, 2024 at 8:32 PM ]
Aug 12, 2024 at 8:32 PM
- Jakemall
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Originally posted by tankle104:
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Every game
@49ers without Brandon Aiyuk in 2023:
— it's Jasmin🏈 (@jasmindear_) August 12, 2024
450 YPG | 30 PPG | 1-0 record@49ers without Deebo Samuel in 2023:
333 YPG | 17 PPG | 0-3 record pic.twitter.com/GYlOqslGpN
Deebo was out in a very similar time period to TRENT WILLIAMS. What really makes the offense go. Try again.
Trent being out is nothing to do with Deebo. But it tanks our whole offense. We saw that last year. When we can't protect Purdy can't pass. All stats go down and we lose.
Deebo, CMC, and Trent were all injured and/or out during that three game stretch.
the defense was horrific too, couldn't fight its way out of a wet paper bag.
Purdy wasn't great but was far from the problem. Outside of when he got a concussion in the Vikings games, he was pretty good.
deebo is extremely important to this offense. Aiyuk is obviously a really good player but I think deebo stresses defenses more.
This.
I think Aiyuk and Deebo are equitable players. Aiyuk is a far better route runner and might have more value with our offense. With that said, Deebo usually draws the stronger coverage and CBs allowing Aiyuk to have huge games.
Aug 12, 2024 at 8:33 PM
- SanDiego49er
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It's ABSOLUTELY HUGE to say Trent Williams and CMC were out. While our defensive coordinator was horrific. Yes he had a horrific stretch there. We all remember the Vikings game.
Then point to "Deebo was out. So Aiyuk can't perform without him."
That's just BLATANTLY ignoring the situation in reality to try to force a point that you want to believe. Like he does. But the evidence doesn't support it.
Then point to "Deebo was out. So Aiyuk can't perform without him."
That's just BLATANTLY ignoring the situation in reality to try to force a point that you want to believe. Like he does. But the evidence doesn't support it.
Aug 12, 2024 at 8:35 PM
- 49AllTheTime
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Originally posted by SanDiego49er:We made it to a Superbowl without TW and BA with Jimmy Fab. did you forget that ?
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:lol cmon SDWright.. no need to make up more excuses
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Every game
@49ers without Brandon Aiyuk in 2023:
— it's Jasmin🏈 (@jasmindear_) August 12, 2024
450 YPG | 30 PPG | 1-0 record@49ers without Deebo Samuel in 2023:
333 YPG | 17 PPG | 0-3 record pic.twitter.com/GYlOqslGpN
Deebo was out in a very similar time period to TRENT WILLIAMS. What really makes the offense go. Try again.
Trent being out is nothing to do with Deebo. But it tanks our whole offense. We saw that last year. When we can't protect Purdy can't pass. All stats go down and we lose.
Trent had nothing to do with BA inability to get open. Trent wasn't missing in the GB playoff game also
BA can't shoulder the load when Deebo is gone
The losses came when TRENT WILLIAMS was out. Our offense is a disaster without him. It goes from below average offensive line to a total catastrophe.
You want so badly to be WRIGHT. But in this case you are WRONG.
We win with Deebo
Deebo and BA is a good combo...
just having BA is not
Aug 12, 2024 at 8:35 PM
- frenchmov
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Originally posted by Jakemall:
This.
I think Aiyuk and Deebo are equitable players. Aiyuk is a far better route runner and might have more value with our offense. With that said, Deebo usually draws the stronger coverage and CBs allowing Aiyuk to have huge games.
Deebo causes so much confusion and angst, he's a different type of threat. There aren't a lot of guys better than deebo with the ball in his hands and it's extremely easy to get it in his hands.
Always surprised to hear some of the comments about deebo here and trading him..... People should be careful what they wish for because we're going to miss him a lot of we get rid of him.
Aug 12, 2024 at 8:36 PM
- 49AllTheTime
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Originally posted by SanDiego49er:show the evidence.. Purdy had to go to Kittle and JJ in that game
It's ABSOLUTELY HUGE to say Trent Williams and CMC were out. While our defensive coordinator was horrific. Yes he had a horrific stretch there. We all remember the Vikings game.
Then point to "Deebo was out. So Aiyuk can't perform without him."
That's just BLATANTLY ignoring the situation in reality to try to force a point that you want to believe. Like he does. But the evidence doesn't support it.
Aug 12, 2024 at 8:37 PM
- Jakemall
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Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
It's ABSOLUTELY HUGE to say Trent Williams and CMC were out. While our defensive coordinator was horrific. Yes he had a horrific stretch there. We all remember the Vikings game.
Then point to "Deebo was out. So Aiyuk can't perform without him."
That's just BLATANTLY ignoring the situation in reality to try to force a point that you want to believe. Like he does. But the evidence doesn't support it.
If I remember correctly, TW was out 1 or 2 of those games. No question in my mind that he has a bigger impact on our team than Deebo, but your minimalization of the impact of Deebo being injured is an unfair assessment.
[ Edited by Jakemall on Aug 12, 2024 at 8:39 PM ]
Aug 12, 2024 at 8:41 PM
- SanDiego49er
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Originally posted by Monsterniner:
In 2022 we went 3-0 whitout Deebo but some reason the entire fanbase forgot it
Good point.
Aug 12, 2024 at 8:42 PM
- SanDiego49er
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Originally posted by Jakemall:
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
It's ABSOLUTELY HUGE to say Trent Williams and CMC were out. While our defensive coordinator was horrific. Yes he had a horrific stretch there. We all remember the Vikings game.
Then point to "Deebo was out. So Aiyuk can't perform without him."
That's just BLATANTLY ignoring the situation in reality to try to force a point that you want to believe. Like he does. But the evidence doesn't support it.
If I remember correctly, TW was out 1 or 2 of those games. No question in my mind that he has a bigger impact on our team than Deebo, but your minimalization of the impact of Deebo being injured is an unfair assessment.
You are minimizing Trent Williams. I think he's really our most important offensive piece. If he is out it doesn't work. Yeah Deebo is important. But with Trent and CMC in and with Aiyuk I think we can win. It helps not to have a disaster at defensive coordinator too. Just a lot of things going on in that stretch. It was more than Deebo. Much more.
Aug 12, 2024 at 8:50 PM
- 49AllTheTime
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Originally posted by SanDiego49er:he avg 67 yards a game and 1 TD total in that 3-0.. such a beast
Originally posted by Monsterniner:
In 2022 we went 3-0 whitout Deebo but some reason the entire fanbase forgot it
Good point.
Aug 12, 2024 at 9:22 PM
- 9moon
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TRADE the FOOH already !! TRADE THE FOOHHH !!!
Aug 12, 2024 at 9:48 PM
- Jakemall
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Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Originally posted by Jakemall:
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
It's ABSOLUTELY HUGE to say Trent Williams and CMC were out. While our defensive coordinator was horrific. Yes he had a horrific stretch there. We all remember the Vikings game.
Then point to "Deebo was out. So Aiyuk can't perform without him."
That's just BLATANTLY ignoring the situation in reality to try to force a point that you want to believe. Like he does. But the evidence doesn't support it.
If I remember correctly, TW was out 1 or 2 of those games. No question in my mind that he has a bigger impact on our team than Deebo, but your minimalization of the impact of Deebo being injured is an unfair assessment.
You are minimizing Trent Williams. I think he's really our most important offensive piece. If he is out it doesn't work. Yeah Deebo is important. But with Trent and CMC in and with Aiyuk I think we can win. It helps not to have a disaster at defensive coordinator too. Just a lot of things going on in that stretch. It was more than Deebo. Much more.
The 9ers are 3-5 without TW since 2021. He was out 2 games last season and both were lost.
The 9ers are 4-4 without Deebo since 2021. He was out 3 games last season and 2 were lost. (I believe we lost the game he was injured as well but he didn't technically miss the whole game so that won't show up in these stats).
Seems like both players are fairly important to me based on that. But based on your saying that I am minimizing TW, I can only guess that you believe Deebo is irrelevant.
[ Edited by Jakemall on Aug 12, 2024 at 9:50 PM ]
Aug 13, 2024 at 1:03 AM
- Dshearn
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Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
It's ABSOLUTELY HUGE to say Trent Williams and CMC were out. While our defensive coordinator was horrific. Yes he had a horrific stretch there. We all remember the Vikings game.
Then point to "Deebo was out. So Aiyuk can't perform without him."
That's just BLATANTLY ignoring the situation in reality to try to force a point that you want to believe. Like he does. But the evidence doesn't support it.
toooo often chunk plays come off Deebo miss-direction....what I remember from him going down was nobody cared about the midsection any longer..so that first game was rough....Shanny had to change stuff up by the third series......
But yeah CMC got banged up, Trent was hurt....it was a whole munch of Salary not on the field.
I really think we have the QB, to beat defenses straight up with out all the misdirection...will be interesting to see how it goes this year.