Brandon Aiyuk is a Quitter! Pick #25, 2020 NFL Draft

Originally posted by the_dynasty:

Originally posted by glorydayz:
What would it say about the NFL if other teams will do business with a player that basically stole millions of dollars and quit on a team, yet they all said no to Kap over his protest? B.A should never play pro football ever again.

other teams dont care that much what he did to the 49ers.
its all about risk/reward ratio with NFL teams and sports

Look at AB, he was given chance after chance simply because he was that good.

for Kaep, he wasnt good enough for teams to pick up to warrant the imminent loud outrage by the "anti-protest" crowd, and they didnt want to deal with the situation if he was a backup or a non-guaranteed starter. If Kaep was on Rodgers or Brees level teams would jump out of their shoes to extinguish PR fires and get him.
Something similar happened to Tebow at tail end of his career.

I really wish people understood the nuances of the Kaepernick situation better.

It wasn't a matter of "he protested and pissed the owners off so he was blackballed." It was a matter of "he inevitably comes with a massive outside-sports media circus and for who is now a borderline-level starter, it's just not worth signing him." Now, if someone wants to make an argument about how that isn't fair, sure. But that's not the same simple reality as "he was blackballed."

I still remember tons and tons of fans in 2014-2015 laughing at the 49ers about how Kaepernick had been "figured out" and "would never be good again" and then in 2016 those same fans were like "wait wait he's actually amazing!"

If Kaepernick had been as good as Brady, he could've spit on the flag before every game and nobody would've cared. He would've kept playing football.

But of course you instantly get dismissed as a racist just for explaining this.

Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:

Originally posted by the_dynasty:

Originally posted by glorydayz:
What would it say about the NFL if other teams will do business with a player that basically stole millions of dollars and quit on a team, yet they all said no to Kap over his protest? B.A should never play pro football ever again.

other teams dont care that much what he did to the 49ers.
its all about risk/reward ratio with NFL teams and sports

Look at AB, he was given chance after chance simply because he was that good.

for Kaep, he wasnt good enough for teams to pick up to warrant the imminent loud outrage by the "anti-protest" crowd, and they didnt want to deal with the situation if he was a backup or a non-guaranteed starter. If Kaep was on Rodgers or Brees level teams would jump out of their shoes to extinguish PR fires and get him.
Something similar happened to Tebow at tail end of his career.

I really wish people understood the nuances of the Kaepernick situation better.

It wasn't a matter of "he protested and pissed the owners off so he was blackballed." It was a matter of "he inevitably comes with a massive outside-sports media circus and for who is now a borderline-level starter, it's just not worth signing him." Now, if someone wants to make an argument about how that isn't fair, sure. But that's not the same simple reality as "he was blackballed."

I still remember tons and tons of fans in 2014-2015 laughing at the 49ers about how Kaepernick had been "figured out" and "would never be good again" and then in 2016 those same fans were like "wait wait he's actually amazing!"

If Kaepernick had been as good as Brady, he could've spit on the flag before every game and nobody would've cared. He would've kept playing football.

But of course you instantly get dismissed as a racist just for explaining this.

I seem to remember the NFL holding a workout for Kap in front of several teams in an effort to get him back in the league, only for him screw that up too.

November 16, 2019; originally scheduled at the Atlanta Falcons' training facility in Flowery Branch, Georgia, but moved by Kaepernick's team to a high school stadium in Riverdale/Atlanta for media transparency.

The Dispute: Kaepernick's camp objected to a non-standard NFL liability waiver that would have signed away potential discrimination or collusion claims, and disagreed with the league's initial restriction on independent media crews.
Participation: Kaepernick completed a 40-minute passing session throwing deep balls to free-agent receivers like Brice Butler, Bruce Ellington, Jordan Veasy, and Ari Wertz.
Team Attendance: While 25 teams initially planned to attend the official league venue, representatives from 8 to 18 teams (reports vary depending on the official vs. relocated count, with Chiefs, Jets, Eagles, Titans, Bills, 49ers, Redskins, and Lions among them) observed the relocated session.
Outcome: The workout did not result in an NFL contract offer.

Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:
I really wish people understood the nuances of the Kaepernick situation better.

It wasn't a matter of "he protested and pissed the owners off so he was blackballed." It was a matter of "he inevitably comes with a massive outside-sports media circus and for who is now a borderline-level starter, it's just not worth signing him." Now, if someone wants to make an argument about how that isn't fair, sure. But that's not the same simple reality as "he was blackballed."

I still remember tons and tons of fans in 2014-2015 laughing at the 49ers about how Kaepernick had been "figured out" and "would never be good again" and then in 2016 those same fans were like "wait wait he's actually amazing!"

If Kaepernick had been as good as Brady, he could've spit on the flag before every game and nobody would've cared. He would've kept playing football.

But of course you instantly get dismissed as a racist just for explaining this.

they arent mutually exclusive though. and "and nobody would've cared. He would've kept playing football." is not quite right. some fans wouldve cared, but teams wouldnt care as much what the fans would think, because teams know winning cures everything. look at deshaun watson who was first booed but then people cheered him on when browns started to win this year.'

Kaep definitely had a lot of racial undertones in terms of how people viewed him exercising his constitutional rights.
But youre also right that afterwards, they just didnt think the media circus was worth someone who is just an average starter. Thats the same reason Tebow couldnt get a backup QB job or even TE. Teams knew that media circus that comes with a backup qb or a blocking TE is just bad for the team and not worth it.

Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:
I really wish people understood the nuances of the Kaepernick situation better.

It wasn't a matter of "he protested and pissed the owners off so he was blackballed." It was a matter of "he inevitably comes with a massive outside-sports media circus and for who is now a borderline-level starter, it's just not worth signing him." Now, if someone wants to make an argument about how that isn't fair, sure. But that's not the same simple reality as "he was blackballed."

I still remember tons and tons of fans in 2014-2015 laughing at the 49ers about how Kaepernick had been "figured out" and "would never be good again" and then in 2016 those same fans were like "wait wait he's actually amazing!"

If Kaepernick had been as good as Brady, he could've spit on the flag before every game and nobody would've cared. He would've kept playing football.

But of course you instantly get dismissed as a racist just for explaining this.

I agree with this for the most part...except the part where fans though he was good in 2016. He was trash.

I'd also like to point out, he was given an opportunity to stay with the 9ers...then was given an opportunity to play for the Broncos. He elected not to over $$$. It wasn't until after that, that he started seeing resistance to signing with a new team.

Originally posted by Jakemall:
I agree with this for the most part...except the part where fans though he was good in 2016. He was trash.

I'd also like to point out, he was given an opportunity to stay with the 9ers...then was given an opportunity to play for the Broncos. He elected not to over $$$. It wasn't until after that, that he started seeing resistance to signing with a new team.

He was never given an opportunity to stay with the 49ers, this is a lie

Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:
I really wish people understood the nuances of the Kaepernick situation better.

It wasn't a matter of "he protested and pissed the owners off so he was blackballed." It was a matter of "he inevitably comes with a massive outside-sports media circus and for who is now a borderline-level starter, it's just not worth signing him." Now, if someone wants to make an argument about how that isn't fair, sure. But that's not the same simple reality as "he was blackballed."

I still remember tons and tons of fans in 2014-2015 laughing at the 49ers about how Kaepernick had been "figured out" and "would never be good again" and then in 2016 those same fans were like "wait wait he's actually amazing!"

If Kaepernick had been as good as Brady, he could've spit on the flag before every game and nobody would've cared. He would've kept playing football.

But of course you instantly get dismissed as a racist just for explaining this.

The timing of Kap being benched for Blaine Gabbert and sitting during National Anthem with his arms crossed and a s**tty look on his face only to start kneeling the next week and say it's about Police brutality is all anyone needs to know about Kaep. If he had such a problem with Police etc why didn't he start kneeling while he was a starting QB?

Originally posted by ModestoNiner33:
The timing of Kap being benched for Blaine Gabbert and sitting during National Anthem with his arms crossed and a s**tty look on his face only to start kneeling the next week and say it's about Police brutality is all anyone needs to know about Kaep. If he had such a problem with Police etc why didn't he start kneeling while he was a starting QB?

I'm happy someone else is asking this. The VERY first time he sat for the anthem he was asked about it and it seemed like he jumped to the police thing as an excuse. To me, if it was really a protest, he'd have been more vocal about it prior to sitting. Once he gave that as a reason though, it took off.

Tebow, Elway hated him and that was that, he had no chance staying on the Broncos. Elway was an arrogant jerk and overrated qb. But walked around like top s**t and he wanted Tebow gone. Tebow wasn't the a*****e BA is and didn't have the media circus either. But Tebow did have other chances to play and he just sucked, idk if mental but looks like the dude couldn't throw a ball lol. He either got lucky during that Broncos season or mentally went down the drain. In the end, he just couldn't ball. But Elway was an a*****e, jmo.
Let's not forget 55-10 where the guy was throwing wild turkeys and yet ppl didn't give up on his ass. But walks around like he is the greatest qb to ever play.

BA is a disgrace, idk what team would be interested in this guy, the only video of him doing anything physical is playing basketball, the rest, he is in his pj's looking all kinds of out of shape lol. Even if he does the conditioning and s**t, he hasn't played in forever but where he f**ked up is being a jerk to the FO and a complete spazz. I think he f**ked his career and doesn't realize it.

I am sorry I brought up Kap, sheesh lol 😆

Originally posted by ModestoNiner33:
The timing of Kap being benched for Blaine Gabbert and sitting during National Anthem with his arms crossed and a s**tty look on his face only to start kneeling the next week and say it's about Police brutality is all anyone needs to know about Kaep. If he had such a problem with Police etc why didn't he start kneeling while he was a starting QB?

This isn't an accurate description of the timing around his protest.

He was benched for Blaine Gabbert in the middle of the 2015 season (by one of the worst HC's and coaching staffs I can ever remember seeing in the league), and his protest began the following year in the preseason.

He wasn't going to see the field in 2016 unless he reworked his contract (removing injury guarantee) as the 49ers were committed to moving on from him.

As a player, Aiyuk is nowhere near what AB was

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by ModestoNiner33:
The timing of Kap being benched for Blaine Gabbert and sitting during National Anthem with his arms crossed and a s**tty look on his face only to start kneeling the next week and say it's about Police brutality is all anyone needs to know about Kaep. If he had such a problem with Police etc why didn't he start kneeling while he was a starting QB?

This isn't an accurate description of the timing around his protest.

He was benched for Blaine Gabbert in the middle of the 2015 season (by one of the worst HC's and coaching staffs I can ever remember seeing in the league), and his protest began the following year in the preseason.

He wasn't going to see the field in 2016 unless he reworked his contract (removing injury guarantee) as the 49ers were committed to moving on from him.

Kapernick is really good at seeking attention, much better than he was on the field post 2012

Originally posted by RiceOwensStokes:
Kapernick is really good at seeking attention, much better than he was on the field post 2012

Shut up and dribble, I get it.

If you think he began protesting simply because he wasn't going to be a starting QB anymore and wanted attention, there's a mountain of evidence to the contrary. The most basic of which is he started after his protest and had interest from another team after he was benched in 2015.

Either way, I agree he wasn't a very good quarterback, which was exacerbated by the collapse of the team around him and dumpster fire tier organizational moves.

Originally posted by Jakemall:

Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:
I really wish people understood the nuances of the Kaepernick situation better.

It wasn't a matter of "he protested and pissed the owners off so he was blackballed." It was a matter of "he inevitably comes with a massive outside-sports media circus and for who is now a borderline-level starter, it's just not worth signing him." Now, if someone wants to make an argument about how that isn't fair, sure. But that's not the same simple reality as "he was blackballed."

I still remember tons and tons of fans in 2014-2015 laughing at the 49ers about how Kaepernick had been "figured out" and "would never be good again" and then in 2016 those same fans were like "wait wait he's actually amazing!"

If Kaepernick had been as good as Brady, he could've spit on the flag before every game and nobody would've cared. He would've kept playing football.

But of course you instantly get dismissed as a racist just for explaining this.

I agree with this for the most part...except the part where fans though he was good in 2016. He was trash.

I'd also like to point out, he was given an opportunity to stay with the 9ers...then was given an opportunity to play for the Broncos. He elected not to over $$$. It wasn't until after that, that he started seeing resistance to signing with a new team.

The game day rosters were trash through out the season....Jeremy Kerley was our best WR....Chip Kelly was trash. But even with all that AGAIN Kap threw for 16tds and only 4ints in a little more than a half of a season of games. If he played the whole season who knows how better his #s would have looked regardless of a bad roster.

And AGAIN the majority of his TDs came in the first half when our games were still close.. Chip Kelly was just horrible in the second half of games... making adjustments. Have yall forgotten our 3rd/4th and inches situations, and Chip would STILL come out in Gun formation?

The way he played that season, if he were on a better team with a competent coach.. they would have had a winning season. Kap has always been good at protecting the ball, while having the arm to move the sticks. He was also finally showing touch on his passes to his RBs out of the backfield. Or running forward with his legs for key 1st downs. Was he some Perfect type of QB? No. But you don't need to be in this league. Most QBs are not the majority of the time. You just need to make more positive plays than mistakes over the course of a game.

Stick to the thread title. No more Kaepernick in here.

If you want to talk about him, go here: https://www.49erswebzone.com/forum/nfl/198690-colin-kaepernick-old-news-new/#post1