Brandon Aiyuk is a Quitter! Pick #25, 2020 NFL Draft

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
What are the differences from the so called pulled offer to the one he agreed to ?

I'm not sure… they've never been reported…but you can clearly see Aiyuk's agent disputing the report that the offer was the same. You can also see Breer described the contract he signed as not all that different from the one offered three weeks earlier.

If I had to guess, I'd assume the differences were in the guarantees - the most important part of any contract.

If that were true, then it would have been reported like other gtd issues that prolonged holdouts

no offer is off the table until a new offer is created. That's just business

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
If that were true, then it would have been reported like other gtd issues that prolonged holdouts

no offer is off the table until a new offer is created. That's just business

Nobody reported on the guarantees at any point in his negotiation. It was always the AAV and the years. The outer framework of the deal. You can see this play out nearly every time news of an extension breaks with pretty much every player: the overarching terms of the deal are reported, and then we wait for the guarantees and actual structure.

The finer details of negotiations rarely leak, and this was true in Aiyuk's case. We saw him respond negatively in June '24 to the leaked news that the team was offering 26m a year.

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by 49ers808:
Having a say in the money stuff includes whether or not to even give said player money. It isn't Paraag who decides who should get a contract. Lynch talks about it all the time about how there's a cap (money) and how they are constantly and collectively making decisions for the present and future. The details of that contract or money; yes, that's Paraag.

Correct, and Kyle had his way in this context through Aiyuk's deal. Following Aiyuk's deal there was a philosophical shift, reportedly.

It's an undeniable reality that the person who controls the checkbook has a large part in shaping the roster. That's what makes the 49ers structure unusual… that person doesn't work under the GM and report to the GM. They report to the owner. It is a parallel position to the GM in our structure.

Okay. But the person that I responded too said that Kyle and Lynch doesn't have any say in the money stuff; in no reality is that true.

Originally posted by 49ers808:

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by 49ers808:
Having a say in the money stuff includes whether or not to even give said player money. It isn't Paraag who decides who should get a contract. Lynch talks about it all the time about how there's a cap (money) and how they are constantly and collectively making decisions for the present and future. The details of that contract or money; yes, that's Paraag.

Correct, and Kyle had his way in this context through Aiyuk's deal. Following Aiyuk's deal there was a philosophical shift, reportedly.

It's an undeniable reality that the person who controls the checkbook has a large part in shaping the roster. That's what makes the 49ers structure unusual… that person doesn't work under the GM and report to the GM. They report to the owner. It is a parallel position to the GM in our structure.

Okay. But the person that I responded too said that Kyle and Lynch doesn't have any say in the money stuff; in no reality is that true.

I said the money side of things isn't their department, which I was talking in terms of specifics of contract details. They obviously have a say in terms of what players we try to sign/re-sign. It doesn't sound like they had a say (or at least not the final one) when it came to the decision to void Aiyuk's guarantees.

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
If that were true, then it would have been reported like other gtd issues that prolonged holdouts

no offer is off the table until a new offer is created. That's just business

Nobody reported on the guarantees at any point in his negotiation. It was always the AAV and the years. The outer framework of the deal. You can see this play out nearly every time news of an extension breaks with pretty much every player: the overarching terms of the deal are reported, and then we wait for the guarantees and actual structure.

The finer details of negotiations rarely leak, and this was true in Aiyuk's case. We saw him respond negatively in June '24 to the leaked news that the team was offering 26m a year.

So why would you even mention gtd was your assumption? Gtd issues don't get hidden from the media if it were a gtd stipulation issue

You seem hung on the word pulled. He agreed to the same offer that was still waiting for him.

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
So why would you even mention gtd was your assumption? Gtd issues don't get hidden from the media if it were a gtd stipulation issue

You seem hung on the word pulled. He agreed to the same offer that was still waiting for him.

https://www.si.com/nfl/takeaways-brandon-aiyuk-49ers-negotiations

'That said, this thing did get pretty ugly over the past month or so. On Aug. 12, the Niners put two final offers on the table for Aiyuk and his camp. What Aiyuk took wasn't far off from one of them. The proposals materialized after San Francisco gave the star receiver a chance to seek a financial agreement with another team to help facilitate a trade, and the Niners started listening.'

'• San Francisco was at $26 million per year in May, but didn't move off that spot before camp kicked off in July. Then, when camp commenced, and Aiyuk decided to hold-in, the sides had to start over. On Aug. 12, the Niners made the two proposals—one for $120 million over four years, and another for $87 million over three years. Aiyuk rejected both, and they came off the table. Then, last week, when the sides reopened talks, the Niners' offers went back on the table, and Aiyuk took the four-year, $120 million deal.'

----(Notice, no mention of the guarantees)----


You see how it was reported that the offers were pulled correct? You also see the report/leak that the contract was the same (outside of the overarching framework - aav/years) and sat there for weeks is *disputed* both in reporting and by Aiyuk's agent.

Again, this information is disputed, and ultimately you can believe what you want to believe. On one hand you have a highly questionably timed leak from the team that was pushed out when most everyone else was happy the hold-in was over, and on the other you have Aiyuk's agent's response which is corroborated by reporting and is in line with other publicly known information.

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
So why would you even mention gtd was your assumption? Gtd issues don't get hidden from the media if it were a gtd stipulation issue

You seem hung on the word pulled. He agreed to the same offer that was still waiting for him.

https://www.si.com/nfl/takeaways-brandon-aiyuk-49ers-negotiations

'That said, this thing did get pretty ugly over the past month or so. On Aug. 12, the Niners put two final offers on the table for Aiyuk and his camp. What Aiyuk took wasn't far off from one of them. The proposals materialized after San Francisco gave the star receiver a chance to seek a financial agreement with another team to help facilitate a trade, and the Niners started listening.'

'• San Francisco was at $26 million per year in May, but didn't move off that spot before camp kicked off in July. Then, when camp commenced, and Aiyuk decided to hold-in, the sides had to start over. On Aug. 12, the Niners made the two proposals—one for $120 million over four years, and another for $87 million over three years. Aiyuk rejected both, and they came off the table. Then, last week, when the sides reopened talks, the Niners' offers went back on the table, and Aiyuk took the four-year, $120 million deal.'

----(Notice, no mention of the guarantees)----

That's factually inaccurate but the check still cashes. 😉 https://t.co/J7ZEeekbil

— Ryan Williams (@RyanWilliamsA1) August 29, 2024

You see how it was reported that the offers were pulled correct? You also see the report/leak that the contract was the same (outside of the overarching framework - aav/years) and sat there for weeks is *disputed* both in reporting and by Aiyuk's agent.

Again, this information is disputed, and ultimately you can believe what you want to believe. On one hand you have a highly questionably timed leak from the team that was pushed out when most everyone else was happy the hold-in was over, and on the other you have Aiyuk's agent's response which is corroborated by reporting and is in line with other publicly known information.

You keep bringing up gtd, not sure why.

as for the rest, he still took the same money offer did he not ?

"Okay" the 49ers "pulled their offer" but he signed the same deal 3 weeks later after denying multiple offers willing to pay him more. What exactly is "Reopen Talks"? The last second Aiyuk decided to sign?

Originally posted by Since07:
"Okay" the 49ers "pulled their offer" but he signed the same deal 3 weeks later after denying multiple offers willing to pay him more. What exactly is "Reopen Talks"? The last second Aiyuk decided to sign?

"Pulled" It's just negotiation tactics/jargon

the offer will always be active until the money amount changes or traded

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
"Pulled" It's just negotiation tactics/jargon

the offer will always be active until the money amount changes or traded

Feel bad for anyone who believes this. Just not remotely close to true across all different types of business, especially in situations where leverage is fluid.

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
"Pulled" It's just negotiation tactics/jargon

the offer will always be active until the money amount changes or traded

Feel bad for anyone who believes this. Just not remotely close to true across all different types of business, especially in situations where leverage is fluid.

I keep asking and you keep showing the pulled article.

Well that doesn't dispute that the offer was different

any type of negotiation where the final offer isn't taken at first but taken later, is still the same last offer

Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:

Brandon Aiyuk is now complaining that he hasn't been paid in 500 days 😅 https://t.co/YOJ8jGeDoL pic.twitter.com/Csc8ZcuX3S

— OurSF49ers (@OurSf49ers) July 29, 2026

Going to be a much more expensive lesson if he doesn't figure it out soon and get his s**t together.

Just file the freaking paperwork!!! WTF?!? Unless he really doesn't want to play but needs this attention??? Will he file when people stop talking about him??? I don't know but this is bizarre. This can't all be about ego.