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Originally posted by BOI49er:
Originally posted by genus49:
I will say this about the possible Aiyuk trade.

We all better hope if he's traded that it's for a day 2 pick at minimum.

If we trade Aiyuk for a day 3 pick just to clear that money I will expect this team to blow up very soon and the folks hoping that Kyle/John are gone will get their way sooner rather than later.

Because that will tell me Jed/Paraag are making football decisions now and bad ones. I can't see Kyle and/or John wanting to stick around once the owner and money guy push their weight around where you're selling off your best WR1 in decades for way below value just to clear $.

I think that might be a little harsh. The situation has changed, because there's been an injury. It's always been debatable whether we paid too much for Aiyuk with this contract in the first place. Now post injury and with the unknowns, there is no way we'd give him this contract. Much of this year is Likely to be lost, and the performance for both this year and the next appears to be anybody's guess. That being said, how can we expect another team to assume this contract. And now you're asking another team to do just that and additionally throw in a high draft pick or more as well. Color me skeptical.

Now we are due to make a large payment by April 1st, so we want a trade to go through before that. Time's about up. I am Not suggesting it, but just to understand the worst case options, can someone tell me what happens if we don't make that payment. Is that essentially cutting him, or can there be an injury settlement, and what would our obligations be in that event? Would it be more attractive to Aiyuk to take a settlement, and then find his own deal, and therefore not cooperate with any adjustments to facilitate a trade we're trying to make?

Maybe...and if the trade happens like I said, I pray we find a way to overcome it and not have what I fear happen.

Thing is if other teams are looking to trade for him I'm sure it's with the expectation that he will come back healthy. Sure there is risk to HOW he plays once healthy but if they're looking to trade for him it's not because they expect him to suck. Throwing away our best WR1 in 20+ years for garbage just because he got hurt IMO would be a major football mistake.

The only way it makes sense to me is if the relationship is so soured and they think he won't be his old self at least til 2026 and then they may face another tough negotiation with him shortly after then I get it. I just hope the move isn't made simply because we're trying to shave off money. We've trimmed off enough fat IMO.

Plus call me crazy but you can always eat some of that money now and basically buy a better draft pick later and maybe just maybe you get a motivated Aiyuk back ready to prove people wrong.
The 49ers paid top market for peak Aiyuk. They received rusty, out of condition Aiyuk. That turned into badly injured, 50/50 he'll even return to rusty, out of condition Aiyuk.
Peak Aiyuk in the future again is a dream.
Only the innermost team knows if the guy is even hungry enough to return to that level, mentally, let alone able physically.
He seems like a good dude, a great teammate. But he's just a piece.
Another very expensive piece, from a run that doesn't seem to carry any future weight anymore.
Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:
In the diggs tweet it addresses that its not apples to apples comparison and at the end of the day its not outlandish or far fetched to say that Wk1 is a possibility. It also didn't mention forcing him to rush back again as a reminder.

He tore two more major structural tendons than Diggs did. There's no way Aiuyk will be ready week 1 IMO
Originally posted by Sask49erFan:
Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:
In the diggs tweet it addresses that its not apples to apples comparison and at the end of the day its not outlandish or far fetched to say that Wk1 is a possibility. It also didn't mention forcing him to rush back again as a reminder.

He tore two more major structural tendons than Diggs did. There's no way Aiuyk will be ready week 1 IMO

Yeah I imagine he may start on the PUP to give him enough time but never know. Everyone heals at different speeds. One thing he has on Diggs is he's younger so hopefully should be able to heal better.
Originally posted by 5Jan2003:
The 49ers paid top market for peak Aiyuk. They received rusty, out of condition Aiyuk. That turned into badly injured, 50/50 he'll even return to rusty, out of condition Aiyuk.
Peak Aiyuk in the future again is a dream.
Only the innermost team knows if the guy is even hungry enough to return to that level, mentally, let alone able physically.
He seems like a good dude, a great teammate. But he's just a piece.
Another very expensive piece, from a run that doesn't seem to carry any future weight anymore.

Run is dead bro. Time start training for the next marathon. But I think BA should be part of that team.
[ Edited by lamontb on Mar 26, 2025 at 11:35 AM ]
Originally posted by Sask49erFan:
He tore two more major structural tendons than Diggs did. There's no way Aiuyk will be ready week 1 IMO

this is why i think we are in play for Keenan Allen or Amari Cooper. some vet WR. we did sign robinson hopefully he's more of a conley type replacement.
Originally posted by genus49:
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Originally posted by Youngone:
Originally posted by genus49:
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Whether Aiyuk comes back at the start of the season or a few weeks later, it won't matter that much. Aiyuk is a good receiver but not a gamer changer. They overpaid when they gave in and signed him last season.

Define game changer for me please.

Define gamer changer too while you're at it

For me a game changer is a receiver that can make big plays and score a lot of TDs. Someone who can get open deep with speed. Aiyuk is a good receiver but I don't put hm in the same group with some of the better receivers. That's why I think they overpaid. He averages about 1000 yards per season based on if he plays 17 games and 5 TDs. Not bad but not great. I don't see the 49ers season being that much different with or without him. They'll just throw more to Jennings, Kittle and Pearsall. Plus CMC should be back.

Thanks for giving your definition. Ironically I feel like your own definition means you're off in your point that he's not a game changer.

I would imagine you wouldn't argue against Justin Jefferson being a game changing WR right?



That's comparing their first 4 seasons in the league. They both came in on the same draft. It does remove Aiyuk's last season to give a fair comparison.

Now obviously even in 2 less games JJ leads in every receiving category. But the two things you mention - big play ability and TDs are very close.

Aiyuk averages 14.6 YPR and has 5 less TDs while being fed the ball WAY less. Even with the 2 extra games the targets are miles apart.

BA with 399 targets
JJ with 576 targets

I also don't think it's a coincidence that Aiyuk had his best YPR seasons with Brock as QB. Jimmy would rarely take the bigger plays vs short stuff that was open. Aiyuk has been routinely open down the field without the ball going his way. Not to mention plenty of times where he'd be missed down the field. Just a small reminder



Now if you said your definition of game changer is the type of guy who has to routinely draw double coverage to stop then I'd give you that one but those players are incredibly rare.

Cuz as it stands(his injury being a key unknown) he's had as much of an impact making big time plays and scoring TDs IF given the opportunity. If he went to an offense which feeds its WRs and gave him a QB who isn't afraid to throw down the field his whole career then his numbers would certainly be higher than they've been in our offense.

It's only my definiton and certainly others may feel different. Comparing stats isn't always a fair way to evaluate since not every team uses WRs the same way. They have different OCs and different QBs. All I go by is what I see and I don't see a lot of big plays with him. He's made some but to me he's a good receiver that can help a team when used the right way. Just not in the upper echelon.

If he wasn't coming off a serious injury and had a good season last year I doubt that the Niners would even field phone calls.
[ Edited by CatchMaster80 on Mar 26, 2025 at 1:27 PM ]
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
For me a game changer is a receiver that can make big plays and score a lot of TDs. Someone who can get open deep with speed. Aiyuk is a good receiver but I don't put hm in the same group with some of the better receivers. That's why I think they overpaid. He averages about 1000 yards per season based on if he plays 17 games and 5 TDs. Not bad but not great. I don't see the 49ers season being that much different with or without him. They'll just throw more to Jennings, Kittle and Pearsall. Plus CMC should be back.

The problem with your analysis is BA doesnt get targeted as much as the elite WRs in this league. He averages around 7 targets a game while the elites are getting 10+ a game. He's never even been the 49ers featured WR. Same argument applies to Kittle and thats why casual fans around the league see his stats and dont think he's the best tight end in the league.

I guess thats the downside of a loaded team that had Deebo, BA, Kittle, and CMC all competing for targets. Not to mention Juan Jennings.
Originally posted by genus49:
Originally posted by Sask49erFan:
Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:
In the diggs tweet it addresses that its not apples to apples comparison and at the end of the day its not outlandish or far fetched to say that Wk1 is a possibility. It also didn't mention forcing him to rush back again as a reminder.

He tore two more major structural tendons than Diggs did. There's no way Aiuyk will be ready week 1 IMO

Yeah I imagine he may start on the PUP to give him enough time but never know. Everyone heals at different speeds. One thing he has on Diggs is he's younger so hopefully should be able to heal better.

Its 2025, medicine has advanced and like genus mentioned hes younger and should heal better and faster. It's not far fetched to say that Wk1 is a possibility.
Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:
Its 2025, medicine has advanced and like genus mentioned hes younger and should heal better and faster. It's not far fetched to say that Wk1 is a possibility.

yes, we can rebuild him was the $6 million man. BA is the $120m man
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:
Its 2025, medicine has advanced and like genus mentioned hes younger and should heal better and faster. It's not far fetched to say that Wk1 is a possibility.

yes, we can rebuild him was the $6 million man. BA is the $120m man

Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:

If no deal before April 1st then why trade him at all? Would be pretty stupid to pay him that bonus and then deal him. Then again we are at the top of dead cap hit so par for the course I guess lol
Just don't trade him, let him come back and be WR1
Originally posted by genus49:
Originally posted by BOI49er:
Originally posted by genus49:
I will say this about the possible Aiyuk trade.

We all better hope if he's traded that it's for a day 2 pick at minimum.

If we trade Aiyuk for a day 3 pick just to clear that money I will expect this team to blow up very soon and the folks hoping that Kyle/John are gone will get their way sooner rather than later.

Because that will tell me Jed/Paraag are making football decisions now and bad ones. I can't see Kyle and/or John wanting to stick around once the owner and money guy push their weight around where you're selling off your best WR1 in decades for way below value just to clear $.

I think that might be a little harsh. The situation has changed, because there's been an injury. It's always been debatable whether we paid too much for Aiyuk with this contract in the first place. Now post injury and with the unknowns, there is no way we'd give him this contract. Much of this year is Likely to be lost, and the performance for both this year and the next appears to be anybody's guess. That being said, how can we expect another team to assume this contract. And now you're asking another team to do just that and additionally throw in a high draft pick or more as well. Color me skeptical.

Now we are due to make a large payment by April 1st, so we want a trade to go through before that. Time's about up. I am Not suggesting it, but just to understand the worst case options, can someone tell me what happens if we don't make that payment. Is that essentially cutting him, or can there be an injury settlement, and what would our obligations be in that event? Would it be more attractive to Aiyuk to take a settlement, and then find his own deal, and therefore not cooperate with any adjustments to facilitate a trade we're trying to make?

Maybe...and if the trade happens like I said, I pray we find a way to overcome it and not have what I fear happen.

Thing is if other teams are looking to trade for him I'm sure it's with the expectation that he will come back healthy. Sure there is risk to HOW he plays once healthy but if they're looking to trade for him it's not because they expect him to suck. Throwing away our best WR1 in 20 years for garbage just because he got hurt IMO would be a major football mistake.

The only way it makes sense to me is if the relationship is so soured and they think he won't be his old self at least til 2026 and then they may face another tough negotiation with him shortly after then I get it. I just hope the move isn't made simply because we're trying to shave off money. We've trimmed off enough fat IMO.

Plus call me crazy but you can always eat some of that money now and basically buy a better draft pick later and maybe just maybe you get a motivated Aiyuk back ready to prove people wrong.

If you are the 49ers I think you should listen to the offers that are out there and if you get an offer you like, take it. I don't think the 49ers should be rushing to rid the contract necessarily. Aiyuk is a good player and his value is at its lowest right now. What we don't know is the extent to which the 49ers have been given orders to cut its spending.
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