Brandon Aiyuk is a Quitter! Pick #25, 2020 NFL Draft

Originally posted by miked1978:
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Originally posted by 49ers808:
lol soooooo what exactly are you disagreeing with again? You leaving out my tidbit about if the 49ers like the compensation. As I said, Hassan Reddick is proving MY point, a player having ZERO say. Imma go with the not the brightest comment

I don't know how to explain it any further. All i'm saying is Aiyuk does have a say bc he simply doesnt have to sign an extension with the team that trades for him. Thus no team is going to give us fair value. Thus Aiyuk does have some say in this.

It was reported yesterday Pit was willing to give up a 2nd round pick and offer him 26 million but Aiyuk wouldn't agree to that number. Do you think the Steelers pull that trigger knowing he won't agree?

You just don't get it. You think Aiyuk has some say because he simply doesn't have to sign an extension. And that means what? You think the 49ers can't trade him because of that? I'm saying if they like the compensation, they sure as F can, regardless of how Aiyuk feels or wants. What happens after that is the new team and Aiyuks problem, hence the Reddick reference. If you can't comprehend that then I don't know what to tell you.

Like I originally said, and you disagreed with, if and where a trade happens is 100% up to the 49ers. They are not obligated to trade him or succumb to ANY of his demands, including an extension, point blank period.

At this point Lynch needs to sit down with BA and let him know " Our negotiation deadline has passed, you have two options. 1 sign the offer we've made or 2 play under your 5th year option, you have 1 hour to make a decision". There is absolutely no need to continue letting BA dictate the situation, especially after the steelers made him an offer for less than he wanted and he now knows that he's just not worth 30 per.

Originally posted by frankieuc68:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Originally posted by frankieuc68:

Originally posted by Cisco0623:
Sounds more and more like BA is a dumbass.

"No lies detected here." Lol.

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
There obviously wasn't near as much interest in Aiyuk as he thought there would be. Nobody thinks he's worth a first round pick. Think about that. He's still young and was a 2nd team pro bowler last year. Still teams don't think he's worth a 1st round pick if they have to pay him $30 million.

Wait, Browns, NE. Wash and Pitt were the early players when he was made available. Didn't NE was willing to pay him handsomely according to reports? It was Aiyuk who didn't entertain the idea of going to the Browns or NE. You can also say most teams have their own WR core in place or they don't have the assets/cap space to make a trade. At this point, teams already have an idea the roster make up for this season.

We don't know how real any of those offers were. They were all "according to sources" which is meaningless.

Well, you just said "teams don't think he's worth a 1st round. " so where did you get that? According to sources too right? My point was, there was a few teams interested when you said there wasn't any much interest. 4 teams out of 32 when they knew BA named Wash/Pitt are the only teams he's willing to play for. But honestly, it doesn't really matter how many teams if it's 4,6 or 8 teams since he only picked only those 2 teams. But it's getting annoying already.

Just a wild guess but if anyone was offering a 1st rounder the Niners would have jumped on it like a pit bull. Especially if NE offered a 1st rounder considering that could easily be the first overall pick.

Originally posted by Oscar8325:
At this point Lynch needs to sit down with BA and let him know " Our negotiation deadline has passed, you have two options. 1 sign the offer we've made or 2 play under your 5th year option, you have 1 hour to make a decision". There is absolutely no need to continue letting BA dictate the situation, especially after the steelers made him an offer for less than he wanted and he now knows that he's just not worth 30 per.

They still have a locker room to maintain. Being the hard ass works sometimes but you don't want to alienate your players either.

Originally posted by walker807:

Originally posted by Oscar8325:
At this point Lynch needs to sit down with BA and let him know " Our negotiation deadline has passed, you have two options. 1 sign the offer we've made or 2 play under your 5th year option, you have 1 hour to make a decision". There is absolutely no need to continue letting BA dictate the situation, especially after the steelers made him an offer for less than he wanted and he now knows that he's just not worth 30 per.

They still have a locker room to maintain. Being the hard ass works sometimes but you don't want to alienate your players either.

I don't think they are, the reported offer of 26-28 is more than fair and they have waited long enough, week 1 is only a couple weeks away.

Originally posted by 49ers808:

Originally posted by miked1978:
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Originally posted by 49ers808:
lol soooooo what exactly are you disagreeing with again? You leaving out my tidbit about if the 49ers like the compensation. As I said, Hassan Reddick is proving MY point, a player having ZERO say. Imma go with the not the brightest comment

I don't know how to explain it any further. All i'm saying is Aiyuk does have a say bc he simply doesnt have to sign an extension with the team that trades for him. Thus no team is going to give us fair value. Thus Aiyuk does have some say in this.

It was reported yesterday Pit was willing to give up a 2nd round pick and offer him 26 million but Aiyuk wouldn't agree to that number. Do you think the Steelers pull that trigger knowing he won't agree?

You just don't get it. You think Aiyuk has some say because he simply doesn't have to sign an extension. And that means what? You think the 49ers can't trade him because of that? I'm saying if they like the compensation, they sure as F can, regardless of how Aiyuk feels or wants. What happens after that is the new team and Aiyuks problem, hence the Reddick reference. If you can't comprehend that then I don't know what to tell you.

Like I originally said, and you disagreed with, if and where a trade happens is 100% up to the 49ers. They are not obligated to trade him or succumb to ANY of his demands, including an extension, point blank period.

Just answer this question:

Why would a team give up a 2nd round pick (plus more according to some who think he has a ton of value) if they can't sign him to an extension? Just answer that and i'll leave you alone.

Originally posted by miked1978:
Just answer this question:

Why would a team give up a 2nd round pick (plus more according to some who think he has a ton of value) if they can't sign him to an extension? Just answer that and i'll leave you alone.

I mean there is no trade there if he's not signing an extension.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by miked1978:
Just answer this question:

Why would a team give up a 2nd round pick (plus more according to some who think he has a ton of value) if they can't sign him to an extension? Just answer that and i'll leave you alone.

I mean there is no trade there if he's not signing an extension.

A first would get a trade, the extension would be all on the Steelers and not our problem anymore

Originally posted by 49ers808:

Originally posted by miked1978:
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Originally posted by 49ers808:
lol soooooo what exactly are you disagreeing with again? You leaving out my tidbit about if the 49ers like the compensation. As I said, Hassan Reddick is proving MY point, a player having ZERO say. Imma go with the not the brightest comment

I don't know how to explain it any further. All i'm saying is Aiyuk does have a say bc he simply doesnt have to sign an extension with the team that trades for him. Thus no team is going to give us fair value. Thus Aiyuk does have some say in this.

It was reported yesterday Pit was willing to give up a 2nd round pick and offer him 26 million but Aiyuk wouldn't agree to that number. Do you think the Steelers pull that trigger knowing he won't agree?

You just don't get it. You think Aiyuk has some say because he simply doesn't have to sign an extension. And that means what? You think the 49ers can't trade him because of that? I'm saying if they like the compensation, they sure as F can, regardless of how Aiyuk feels or wants. What happens after that is the new team and Aiyuks problem, hence the Reddick reference. If you can't comprehend that then I don't know what to tell you.

Like I originally said, and you disagreed with, if and where a trade happens is 100% up to the 49ers. They are not obligated to trade him or succumb to ANY of his demands, including an extension, point blank period.

The 49ers won't get any acceptable compensation for Aiyuk unless he agrees to sign an extension with said team.

Obviously they can trade him anywhere they want for say a 6th round pick and he can't choose the destination. But that's the level of comp you would get for a 1 year rental. I am sure there are 31 teams that will trade like a 4th-5th rounder for Aiyuk for 1 year. But why would the 49ers do that? They won't.

He does have leverage in this situation and he is using it to force the 49ers to increase their offer (which they already have) or trade him to a spot that he will sign.

49ers can make him play on the 5th year but he can also take the "nuclear option" and just hold out into the season. He will lose a lot of money in this scenario in both the short (2024) and long term (next contract) but if he's set on his principles then it is a card he holds.

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
A first would get a trade, the extension would be all on the Steelers and not our problem anymore

You really think a team is going to give up a 1st round pick without getting an extension done before the trade is executed? You really think that?

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Originally posted by Leathaface:

Originally posted by 49ers808:

Originally posted by miked1978:
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Originally posted by 49ers808:
lol soooooo what exactly are you disagreeing with again? You leaving out my tidbit about if the 49ers like the compensation. As I said, Hassan Reddick is proving MY point, a player having ZERO say. Imma go with the not the brightest comment

I don't know how to explain it any further. All i'm saying is Aiyuk does have a say bc he simply doesnt have to sign an extension with the team that trades for him. Thus no team is going to give us fair value. Thus Aiyuk does have some say in this.

It was reported yesterday Pit was willing to give up a 2nd round pick and offer him 26 million but Aiyuk wouldn't agree to that number. Do you think the Steelers pull that trigger knowing he won't agree?

You just don't get it. You think Aiyuk has some say because he simply doesn't have to sign an extension. And that means what? You think the 49ers can't trade him because of that? I'm saying if they like the compensation, they sure as F can, regardless of how Aiyuk feels or wants. What happens after that is the new team and Aiyuks problem, hence the Reddick reference. If you can't comprehend that then I don't know what to tell you.

Like I originally said, and you disagreed with, if and where a trade happens is 100% up to the 49ers. They are not obligated to trade him or succumb to ANY of his demands, including an extension, point blank period.

The 49ers won't get any acceptable compensation for Aiyuk unless he agrees to sign an extension with said team.

Obviously they can trade him anywhere they want for say a 6th round pick and he can't choose the destination. But that's the level of comp you would get for a 1 year rental. I am sure there are 31 teams that will trade like a 4th-5th rounder for Aiyuk for 1 year. But why would the 49ers do that? They won't.

He does have leverage in this situation and he is using it to force the 49ers to increase their offer (which they already have) or trade him to a spot that he will sign.

49ers can make him play on the 5th year but he can also take the "nuclear option" and just hold out into the season. He will lose a lot of money in this scenario in both the short (2024) and long term (next contract) but if he's set on his principles then it is a card he holds.

Thank you

Originally posted by miked1978:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
A first would get a trade, the extension would be all on the Steelers and not our problem anymore

You really think a team is going to give up a 1st round pick without getting an extension done before the trade is executed? You really think that?

any team that will give us a 1st would be a FOOH !!!! YUCK maybe that good and we may deserve a 1st rounder, but why would any teams give up their 1st rounder on a guy who wants to be traded.. he ain't a SUPERSTAR .. he aint !!

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
A first would get a trade, the extension would be all on the Steelers and not our problem anymore

He's talking about being traded to a team he's not willing to sign an extension with

Originally posted by Leathaface:

Originally posted by 49ers808:

Originally posted by miked1978:
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Originally posted by 49ers808:
lol soooooo what exactly are you disagreeing with again? You leaving out my tidbit about if the 49ers like the compensation. As I said, Hassan Reddick is proving MY point, a player having ZERO say. Imma go with the not the brightest comment

I don't know how to explain it any further. All i'm saying is Aiyuk does have a say bc he simply doesnt have to sign an extension with the team that trades for him. Thus no team is going to give us fair value. Thus Aiyuk does have some say in this.

It was reported yesterday Pit was willing to give up a 2nd round pick and offer him 26 million but Aiyuk wouldn't agree to that number. Do you think the Steelers pull that trigger knowing he won't agree?

You just don't get it. You think Aiyuk has some say because he simply doesn't have to sign an extension. And that means what? You think the 49ers can't trade him because of that? I'm saying if they like the compensation, they sure as F can, regardless of how Aiyuk feels or wants. What happens after that is the new team and Aiyuks problem, hence the Reddick reference. If you can't comprehend that then I don't know what to tell you.

Like I originally said, and you disagreed with, if and where a trade happens is 100% up to the 49ers. They are not obligated to trade him or succumb to ANY of his demands, including an extension, point blank period.

The 49ers won't get any acceptable compensation for Aiyuk unless he agrees to sign an extension with said team.

Obviously they can trade him anywhere they want for say a 6th round pick and he can't choose the destination. But that's the level of comp you would get for a 1 year rental. I am sure there are 31 teams that will trade like a 4th-5th rounder for Aiyuk for 1 year. But why would the 49ers do that? They won't.

He does have leverage in this situation and he is using it to force the 49ers to increase their offer (which they already have) or trade him to a spot that he will sign.

49ers can make him play on the 5th year but he can also take the "nuclear option" and just hold out into the season. He will lose a lot of money in this scenario in both the short (2024) and long term (next contract) but if he's set on his principles then it is a card he holds.

If they give Aiyuk a one year deal and let him walk next offseason they'd get a 3rd round compensatory anyways so there's no point entertaining anything but 1st or 2nd round picks at this point.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
A first would get a trade, the extension would be all on the Steelers and not our problem anymore

He's talking about being traded to a team he's not willing to sign an extension with

Any team, if a team slips and includes a first in their offer without wanting an extension.. he could be gone quickly