SF 49ERS @ SEA SEAHAWKS PREGAME THREAD - 2019 Season Week 17

Originally posted by ModestoNiner33:
Chris Borland could probably put the pads on and destroy feast mode lol. . Maybe they shotgive him a call.

Borland's early retirement still hurts. He was a stud.

Lynch should not be underestimated, as I firmly believe Seattle signed him simply as a redzone/short yardage threat within the role he had in Oakland. Both teams are injured, but the Clowney/Staley matchup is going to be the biggest matchup shift since the last game. Staley was putting on a complete game against Arron Donald, and Clowney is going to play through a game he might not finish. Therefore, I believe Seattle's D will be their biggest liability Sunday, and that the 12th man will boo their team into halftime. Russell is going to keep us on our toes, but I just feel like Bosa is going to have one of those All-Pro games. Wilson embarrassed Bosa, and Bosa never forgets.

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

Originally posted by Psinex:
The truth hurts, apparently. But don't take my word for it. Back in 2015, Tyrann Mathieu let everyone know what he and the Cardinals thought about Kaepernick:

Mathieu intercepted Colin Kaepernick on two occasions and returned one for a touchdown when the teams met Sept. 27. Afterward, Mathieu suggested he had his big day because the 49ers' offense and Kaepernick were predictable.

On a conference call Wednesday with reporters who cover the 49ers, Mathieu did not back down from his critique of Kaepernick. And he offered praise for new 49ers starting quarterback Blaine Gabbert.

"That's not to take anything away from Kaepernick, but it seems like Gabbert has a little bit better grip on what's going on," Mathieu said. "If he gets in a situation, he knows where the ball needs to go. He's a hell of a passer. I think he's underrated when you talk about how well he can throw the football.

"I think he gives them a better option going forward. It seems like the wide receivers are more involved. So it looks like they're doing all right."

Mathieu said he has not been able to figure out Gabbert to the point where the Cardinals' secondary will be able to bait him into the kind of throws he said they were able to coax from Kaepernick.

"No, I don't think so," Mathieu said. "(It) seems like he takes care of the football way better. If he gets into a situation where he feels pressure, he's not just going to give the defense an opportunity to make a play."

Kaepernick completed just nine of 19 passes for 67 yards with four interceptions in the Cardinals' 47-7 victory in Week 3. Kaepernick's passer rating was 16.7. Those woeful numbers were not a coincidence, Mathieu said.

"We just knew Kaepernick's tendencies," he said. "We knew what he liked to do. We knew which way he wanted to roll out. We knew what side of the field he liked to read to.

"You don't pick up those same things with Gabbert. He's better in the pocket. He has a better feel for coverages. It seems like he can get to the line and see a coverage and then go to a different play. Or, see a coverage and not throw the ball. You can see Gabbert's maturity and the different things he does well that Kaepernick doesn't do well."

Tyrann Mathieu on Kaepernick

Really this just makes Matthieu look stupid, especially when Kap took his job back the second he dropped his injury clause, outplayed Blaine badly, and took the Cards to OT and damn near beat them all by himself in 2016.

Remember what Blaine did against the Cards in 2016? Mathieu is not a scout, and it shows. His analysis of Blaine is pretty laughable.

If Mathieu thought the world-beating Gabbert was a better QB alternative for the Niners than Kaepernick, what does that say about Kaepernick at the time? That's the point here.

I need some goddamn 49ers regular season action.

Originally posted by Psinex:

If Mathieu thought the world-beating Gabbert was a better QB alternative for the Niners than Kaepernick, what does that say about Kaepernick at the time? That's the point here.

People just refuse to accept that Kap was absolutely garbage once the league figured him out. Nothing more than a flash in the pan

Originally posted by LayTheWoodall:

Originally posted by Psinex:

If Mathieu thought the world-beating Gabbert was a better QB alternative for the Niners than Kaepernick, what does that say about Kaepernick at the time? That's the point here.

People just refuse to accept that Kap was absolutely garbage once the league figured him out. Nothing more than a flash in the pan

THIS.

You just don't hear it enough. Kap was horrible by the time he left. I will never forget Kurt Warner talking about how he offered to work with kap and his classroom work. AND......kap wasn't interested. He just wanted to work out. That says all you need to know about the guy and why he still doesn't have a job. It's not because of his social justice stance. It's because he sucks.

Go, Niners, go!

Lehhss Goooo Niners!! Last regular season game of the decade. Let's end this decade with a W and start the next decade with a SB win!!

Some food for thought...

For the Niners, the GB, NO, and Vikings games are irrelevant. If they win, they're #1 and if they lose, they're #5.

For the Seahawks, the GB and NO games matter, and they'll be completed before kickoff. By the time the Niners-Seahawks game kicks off, the rest of the NFC will be determined. If the big favorites GB and NO both win, which they're favored by 10+ each, then SEA will essentially be playing for the right to host the Vikings on wild card weekend vs going to PHI/DAL. That isn't really a major difference, at least Vegas would have SEA favored in either game. Then it's road games from then on.

But if either NO or GB loses, then SEA would be playing for a bye and home field in the divisional round.

The point is that SEA's motivation for this game could be very different depending on the earlier outcomes.

Originally posted by 9NERNATE:

Originally posted by mutant-man49:

Originally posted by SteveYoung8:

Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:

Looks like he could still go a few snaps!! G.O.A.T.!

If any ex player could come back and still make an impact it would be TO.

I'd take Willis over TO

Willis' feet are shot.

Originally posted by Psinex:

If Mathieu thought the world-beating Gabbert was a better QB alternative for the Niners than Kaepernick, what does that say about Kaepernick at the time? That's the point here.

I'll be the first say Kap fell apart in 2015, but I've seen good QBs in better situations go through rough times, so it's no surprise at all to me that Kap struggled those 8 games.

To me the point here is Mathieus comments mean nothing. Who cares what somebody says when they're wrong? Some people think the earth is flat, what does that say about the earth? Nothing, because they're wrong.

We will win.

Originally posted by NinerBuff:

Some food for thought...

For the Niners, the GB, NO, and Vikings games are irrelevant. If they win, they're #1 and if they lose, they're #5.

For the Seahawks, the GB and NO games matter, and they'll be completed before kickoff. By the time the Niners-Seahawks game kicks off, the rest of the NFC will be determined. If the big favorites GB and NO both win, which they're favored by 10+ each, then SEA will essentially be playing for the right to host the Vikings on wild card weekend vs going to PHI/DAL. That isn't really a major difference, at least Vegas would have SEA favored in either game. Then it's road games from then on.

But if either NO or GB loses, then SEA would be playing for a bye and home field in the divisional round.

The point is that SEA's motivation for this game could be very different depending on the earlier outcomes.

And I'm assuming the Vikings will be resting their starters as they're locked into the #6 spot.

Originally posted by maximusdecimus:

Originally posted by LayTheWoodall:

Originally posted by Psinex:

If Mathieu thought the world-beating Gabbert was a better QB alternative for the Niners than Kaepernick, what does that say about Kaepernick at the time? That's the point here.

People just refuse to accept that Kap was absolutely garbage once the league figured him out. Nothing more than a flash in the pan

THIS.

You just don't hear it enough. Kap was horrible by the time he left. I will never forget Kurt Warner talking about how he offered to work with kap and his classroom work. AND......kap wasn't interested. He just wanted to work out. That says all you need to know about the guy and why he still doesn't have a job. It's not because of his social justice stance. It's because he sucks.

If you suck and have been figured out, you go the way of QBs like Weeden, Cassel, Joe Webb, etc.

You don't put up 250 total ypg, 16/4 in 11 starts, avg 7 ypc, and a 90 rating on a CFL roster. If that's garbage, then half the league is garbage.

Originally posted by maximusdecimus:

Originally posted by LayTheWoodall:

Originally posted by Psinex:

If Mathieu thought the world-beating Gabbert was a better QB alternative for the Niners than Kaepernick, what does that say about Kaepernick at the time? That's the point here.

People just refuse to accept that Kap was absolutely garbage once the league figured him out. Nothing more than a flash in the pan

THIS.

You just don't hear it enough. Kap was horrible by the time he left. I will never forget Kurt Warner talking about how he offered to work with kap and his classroom work. AND......kap wasn't interested. He just wanted to work out. That says all you need to know about the guy and why he still doesn't have a job. It's not because of his social justice stance. It's because he sucks.

It has nothing to do with the Seahawks game but that should be corrected. Kap had 16 TDs and 4 Interceptions. Look where that ratio belongs in today's NFL. He had a 400 yard game in Miami und a 500 yard game in new Orleans. He lost both. That team was horrible. The best receiver were Kerley and Torrey with 3 TDs, Drop McDonald had his best season with 5. The names of Kaepernicks Weapons were Chris Harper, Rod Streater, Burbridge, Quinton Patton and DeAndre Smelter. None of them is the NFL right now. There weren't many QBs who could have done better. Kap was the best sacked QB and had the s**ttiest Oline in pro football.