DE Nick Bosa "Smaller Bear" NO POLITICS

Originally posted by SFrush:

Originally posted by jakedogg:
$54 million cap hit next year. What's the dead money if he quits or gets cut? This subject wouldn't be coming up if he wasn't so injured. Those big contracts-it's buyer beware.

They free up 32 million if it's a post June 1 designation.

He will be on the 49ers next year.

Originally posted by glorydayz:

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:

Originally posted by ritz126:

Originally posted by glorydayz:

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by Cosmo:
If we can continue winning without Bosa, why is he consuming so much cap space?

Because we need him to beat the top offenses in the league.

We beat the top offense (Rams) without him.

Bosa played that game

lol classic

Well I'll be dam, didn't notice him at all in that game.

Bummer because he looked awesome

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:

Originally posted by glorydayz:

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:

Originally posted by ritz126:

Originally posted by glorydayz:

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by Cosmo:
If we can continue winning without Bosa, why is he consuming so much cap space?

Because we need him to beat the top offenses in the league.

We beat the top offense (Rams) without him.

Bosa played that game

lol classic

Well I'll be dam, didn't notice him at all in that game.

Bummer because he looked awesome

Lots of stat watching instead of game watching. Bosa looked like he was shot out of a cannon.

Also people need to get over it- they aren't dropping Bosa. I can see an extension for a no longer top of the market contract with some built in injury insurance and rip cords that lowers the cap hit for 2027 before I see them outright releasing him. They should also draft a true 3 down DE in 2027 with a day 1 or 2 pick, but I hope Bosa is on the team.

Originally posted by LifelongNiner:
Lots of stat watching instead of game watching. Bosa looked like he was shot out of a cannon.

Also people need to get over it- they aren't dropping Bosa. I can see an extension for a no longer top of the market contract with some built in injury insurance and rip cords that lowers the cap hit for 2027 before I see them outright releasing him. They should also draft a true 3 down DE in 2027 with a day 1 or 2 pick, but I hope Bosa is on the team.

Good call. Very effective when on the field and right now we aren't desperate to have him there.

Keep healing and when the important games arrive - let him loose.

* Played 99 games.
* Missed 35 games (36 on MNF - which he won't play).
* Missed 26% of games.
* All Pro caliber edge defenders average missing 5% - 10% of their playing time.
* He is significantly higher.

Every year it's "he's great when healthy." Yet he's not healthy. His calf hurts and he misses game after game. Is he good when he plays? Sure. Can you count on him in every game and the whole season or even the playoffs? No way.

* $54.9 M salary cap hit next year.

If hes healthy, have him play next week and let the Bye week recover any setbacks.

Originally posted by Hysterikal:

Originally posted by SFrush:

Originally posted by jakedogg:
$54 million cap hit next year. What's the dead money if he quits or gets cut? This subject wouldn't be coming up if he wasn't so injured. Those big contracts-it's buyer beware.

They free up 32 million if it's a post June 1 designation.

He will be on the 49ers next year.

He's been hurt a lot since signing that last deal and the production has not matched. Odds are they ask him to restructure and he says no because bosas don't leave money on the table. I say it's 50/50 he's still on the team next year.

Originally posted by jcs:

Originally posted by Hysterikal:

Originally posted by SFrush:

Originally posted by jakedogg:
$54 million cap hit next year. What's the dead money if he quits or gets cut? This subject wouldn't be coming up if he wasn't so injured. Those big contracts-it's buyer beware.

They free up 32 million if it's a post June 1 designation.

He will be on the 49ers next year.

He's been hurt a lot since signing that last deal and the production has not matched. Odds are they ask him to restructure and he says no because bosas don't leave money on the table. I say it's 50/50 he's still on the team next year.

Yeah there will have to be some Major Injury insurance in a restructured deal. I don't know if Bosa will accept it since he could probably get a much better deal elsewhere. It might just be the time to part ways if we cannot get a good contract that doesn't handicap this franchise if Bosa has another major injury.

Originally posted by LifelongNiner:
Lots of stat watching instead of game watching. Bosa looked like he was shot out of a cannon.

Also people need to get over it- they aren't dropping Bosa. I can see an extension for a no longer top of the market contract with some built in injury insurance and rip cords that lowers the cap hit for 2027 before I see them outright releasing him. They should also draft a true 3 down DE in 2027 with a day 1 or 2 pick, but I hope Bosa is on the team.

^^THIS.

Bosa has torn 2 ACL's since being in the NFL, and unfortunately they both happened early in the season that caused him to miss a lot of games. Outside of that, he's been pretty damn healthy.

Oh, and as long as he's on the field, he's a Top 3 pass rusher and DPOY caliber player of the year, and he's not 30.

They are not gonna let Bosa walk because he had calf tightness for a couple weeks following an ACL injury. If he is healthy through a playoff run this year and plays well, he will be back. Will he get a max contract given his history? Debatable and probably not, but fans are not realizing that you don't just let a player of his caliber walk without a damn good plan on how you're gonna replace him, especially when you have a QB/HC combo that make your Super Bowl window every year.

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
* Played 99 games.
* Missed 35 games (36 on MNF - which he won't play).
* Missed 26% of games.
* All Pro caliber edge defenders average missing 5% - 10% of their playing time.
* He is significantly higher.

Every year it's "he's great when healthy." Yet he's not healthy. His calf hurts and he misses game after game. Is he good when he plays? Sure. Can you count on him in every game and the whole season or even the playoffs? No way.

* $54.9 M salary cap hit next year.

28 of those games were because of torn ACL's that happened to happen early in the season. Outside of that, he's been pretty healthy.

I guess it comes down to whether you believe the ACL's are flukey (which, coming from someone whose blown out his knee before, IMO they are for the most part), or if you believe there is something genetically weak about his ACL's.

Originally posted by LifelongNiner:
Lots of stat watching instead of game watching. Bosa looked like he was shot out of a cannon.

Also people need to get over it- they aren't dropping Bosa. I can see an extension for a no longer top of the market contract with some built in injury insurance and rip cords that lowers the cap hit for 2027 before I see them outright releasing him. They should also draft a true 3 down DE in 2027 with a day 1 or 2 pick, but I hope Bosa is on the team.

He can't be the #1 option anymore. He misses too many games.

Want him on the team next year… hell yes.
depend on him as the number 1… hell no, only a stupid GM would expect him to magically be healthy all year. History don't lie…. Part time employees.. even great ones are paid according to the time they actually put in. Maybe it's a very lucrative incentive based deal contingent on actual games played… he will not go for that though. Hope we make a mutually beneficial deal to keep him.

Originally posted by SB49er4life:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
* Played 99 games.
* Missed 35 games (36 on MNF - which he won't play).
* Missed 26% of games.
* All Pro caliber edge defenders average missing 5% - 10% of their playing time.
* He is significantly higher.

Every year it's "he's great when healthy." Yet he's not healthy. His calf hurts and he misses game after game. Is he good when he plays? Sure. Can you count on him in every game and the whole season or even the playoffs? No way.

* $54.9 M salary cap hit next year.

28 of those games were because of torn ACL's that happened to happen early in the season. Outside of that, he's been pretty healthy.

I guess it comes down to whether you believe the ACL's are flukey (which, coming from someone whose blown out his knee before, IMO they are for the most part), or if you believe there is something genetically weak about his ACL's.

I don't mean to be rude but what difference does that make? He is either available or not. The type of injury is completely irrelevant.

Originally posted by FL9r:
I don't mean to be rude but what difference does that make? He is either available or not. The type of injury is completely irrelevant.

Agreed.

There is no way to ignore the fact that he is made of glass. Availability is better than ability. The organization probably holds their breathe everytime he takes the field.

Bosa either takes a pay cut (49ers should still draft his replacement ASAP) or he's gone.

He doesn't deserve a raise.

Originally posted by 49ers9797:

Originally posted by FL9r:
I don't mean to be rude but what difference does that make? He is either available or not. The type of injury is completely irrelevant.

Agreed.

There is no way to ignore the fact that he is made of glass. Availability is better than ability. The organization probably holds their breathe everytime he takes the field.

Bosa either takes a pay cut (49ers should still draft his replacement ASAP) or he's gone.

He doesn't deserve a raise.

Same with Joey. Not sure why anyone wants him.