Things You've Been Wrong About So Far This Year | Page 3

PopeyeJonesing · 2017-10-12T09:55:04-07:00

Everyone seems to always like to crow after the fact about the opinions and evaluations they got right, but all the things we're wrong about tend to slip down the memory hole. This thread is a correction on that. Now nearly 1/3rd of the way through the season, what have you so far been proven wrong about? I'll go first with six of them: (1) I thought KS/Lynch overspent on an aging and average receiver in Garcon because they were placing too much emphasis on familiarity with Kyle and his system. I now think I'm wrong. So far Garcon is grading out as a top 5 WR in the NFL according to PFF, and like Anquan, he's one of those rare WRs for whom I think getting older doesn't affect their game as much (his game just isn't based on athletic ability as much as most WRs). I was very, very wrong on my evaluation of his signing, I think. (2) I didn't expect Buckner to take a leap like he has. I thought he would remain a good but streaky player who played too high and was very inconsistent with his hand use and limited in his moves. I was very wrong on this one too. He has built incredibly well on last year and is a much improved version of what we've already seen. (3) I thought Arik Armstead was going to be sneaky decent this year, kinda like Ray McDonald was in Fangio's system. Instead, he has totally disappeared. I think that's mostly scheme fit but he has been much worse than I thought he would be. (4) I didn't think Robinson and Johnson would be THIS bad. I thought Robinson was overrated and Johnson was maybe a bit underrated, and that they'd both be average to slightly below average. Instead, they've both stunk. (5) I thought Jerome would be one of those backups who would stick on the team forever, and maybe even with the ceiling of developing into a decent starter three or fours years from now. Instead, he was cut by week 5 and not even brought back to the practice squad. (6) If before this season you told me that I'd think Tartt might be both the best and most versatile player in the 9ers secondary at this point in the year, I would have laughed in your face. He's still far from being a complete and consistent player, but he has taken a Buckner-sized leap in my evaluation of him (which is just less evident because he started so far below Buckner). I was wrong on this one too.

Oct 12, 2017 at 11:16 AM

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I thought Robinson would be much better in man-coverage and thought Dumervil might become a serious threat again on the edge. He's got 3.5 sacks and leads the team and is on pace for double digit, but it's been feast or famine with him. He's either getting to the QB or not getting pressure at all.

Oct 12, 2017 at 11:19 AM

#32

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Originally posted by itlynstalyn:

Originally posted by kidash98:

Originally posted by PrisonOfGlass:
I thought we'd be a 5-6 win team this year. Womp womp.

This. I had us winning at least six games.

Still possible, but right now, I doubt it.

I had us at 6 too in the PYMWYMI thread, but it doesn't even look like they'll get there.

I said we were a 5 win team, talent wise but might steal a couple extra wins. I think I was about right as far as 5 win talent. We've been close enough and found ways to lose games and if we're 4-12 at the end of the year it'd show it was right about at that place.

Oct 12, 2017 at 11:22 AM

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-Didn't think Hoyer would be this inconsistent with his knowledge of this offense...he looks damn good on some throws but others leave you thinking how could he miss that

-Thought Robinson was really going to solidify himself as the team's top CB...so far, he's up and down (more down) and not just with his coverage - his tackling needs work

-Though they're not off to a bad start, I thought the DL would make more of an impact...maybe they will as they're mostly pretty young and as they play together more

-Thought Harold would give them more...so far, kind of a ghost out there

-Thought the team would have 1 or 2 wins by now

Oct 12, 2017 at 11:25 AM

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Originally posted by jonnydel:

Originally posted by itlynstalyn:

Originally posted by kidash98:

Originally posted by PrisonOfGlass:
I thought we'd be a 5-6 win team this year. Womp womp.

This. I had us winning at least six games.

Still possible, but right now, I doubt it.

I had us at 6 too in the PYMWYMI thread, but it doesn't even look like they'll get there.
I said we were a 5 win team, talent wise but might steal a couple extra wins. I think I was about right as far as 5 win talent. We've been close enough and found ways to lose games and if we're 4-12 at the end of the year it'd show it was right about at that place.

Agreed. I also think Kyle's a little more overmatched trying to be the OC as well as HC than he anticipated he'd be and that's affecting things to an extent. I'm torn between full-on tank and being annoyed they can't seem to get out of their own way. Knowing this team, they'll win just enough games at the end of the season to prevent us from getting a top QB in the draft.

Oct 12, 2017 at 11:52 AM

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- Was thinking 6-10, and had Ws marked down against the Rams and Colts. I'm okay with 4-12 though.
- Dontae Johnson would be playing better.
- Solly would be more impactful than he is as a pass rusher.
- ALynch would be good considering weight loss, and pending free agency.

Oct 12, 2017 at 11:57 AM

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I thought hoyer would be better than he has been. Not good, really. But better than he's been. After 5 games he's only had about 3 decent halves of football.

Oct 12, 2017 at 12:03 PM

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Originally posted by StOnEy333:
I thought hoyer would be better than he has been. Not good, really. But better than he's been. After 5 games he's only had about 3 decent halves of football.

I think he will get much better as the season goes on. None of these receivers and QB's on offense have ever played with each other. Prior to the year, I was willing to give it till week 8 for them to start looking like they are on the same page on a more consistent basis. If not, and players are still making bonehead mistakes, then it's time to identify and discipline in terms of playing time.

Right now, we have too many heroes on the team.

[ Edited by Joecool on Oct 12, 2017 at 12:03 PM ]

Oct 12, 2017 at 12:08 PM

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I also thought Solomon would have more of an impact.

Oct 12, 2017 at 12:08 PM

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I thought Hoyer would be serviceable with his prior knowledge off the offense but he has been erratic at the least.

I Thought Robinson would show flashes of being a solid corner but he also has been erratic.

I thought Armstead and Lynch were going to pressure the QB alot more than they have. Its disappointing. I think Armstead will be traded in the offseason to get some draft capital for a pass rusher. Lynch is done imo.

I also didnt expect for the WR to drop so many balls.

Oct 12, 2017 at 12:11 PM

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Pegged our first win vs. Colts.

Oct 12, 2017 at 12:23 PM

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As a true fan we were undefeated before the season started!!! Lol
-Marquise Goodwin a fantasy football sleeper
-Hyde Beast'n it. Not completely his fault...OLine problems, but he has been missing assignments.
-Hoyer would be above average
-DLine will eat opposing teams OLine and smother their run run game
-We would score a little more than FG

Oct 12, 2017 at 12:30 PM

#42

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I predicted 5 or 6 win season, it's still possible but not likely after going winless on the "easy part of the schedule" , thought we'd have at least 1 win by now, but didn't think we'd keep the games we're losing in as close as theyve been.

I thought Rashard Robinson would be the only bright spot from the CB position,

I was just about ready to give up on Jaquaski Tartt after 2016 and didn't expect much from him this year, but he's become one of our best players on defense. Him & Ward make an excellent combo

Also I didn't have much faith in Brain Hoyer to begin with but I thought maybe he'd be somewhat average in Shanahan's offense,certainly didn't think he'd be one of the worst QBs in the league

[ Edited by Aj_hwd954 on Oct 12, 2017 at 12:39 PM ]

Oct 12, 2017 at 12:55 PM

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Originally posted by Young2Rice:
Pegged our first win vs. Colts.

I've been saying that since week 1.

Oct 12, 2017 at 12:56 PM

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Originally posted by Aj_hwd954:
I predicted 5 or 6 win season, it's still possible but not likely after going winless on the "easy part of the schedule" , thought we'd have at least 1 win by now, but didn't think we'd keep the games we're losing in as close as theyve been.

I thought Rashard Robinson would be the only bright spot from the CB position,

I was just about ready to give up on Jaquaski Tartt after 2016 and didn't expect much from him this year, but he's become one of our best players on defense. Him & Ward make an excellent combo

Also I didn't have much faith in Brain Hoyer to begin with but I thought maybe he'd be somewhat average in Shanahan's offense,certainly didn't think he'd be one of the worst QBs in the league .

Tartt is an awesome one. I couldn't even find a home for him and he has really stepped up despite learning 3 roles in this defense. I did not see that coming.

Oct 12, 2017 at 12:57 PM

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Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by Young2Rice:
Pegged our first win vs. Colts.

I've been saying that since week 1.

It will be the Giants game.