Waiver Wire Poor Man's Christmas - #2 Position

NCommand · 2017-09-03T06:40:29-07:00

Alright peeps, who you got and why? We've got the #2 order here and like John said, he never wants to be here again, but at the same time, sees this as a great opportunity to make the team better. Game time starts at 1pm PST today. So search the official waiver wire and tell me who you want and why. https://www.thephinsider.com/2017/9/2/16247500/nfl-waiver-wire-rules-2017-miami-dolphins https://www.si.com/nfl/2017/09/02/nfl-cuts-tj-ward-cj-cjspiller-matt-jones Here are eight names to keep an eye on as teams look to add cut players over the course of the next day: Examples: 1. T.J. Ward (free agent): The veteran Broncos safety was part of the team's 2014 free-agent spending spree and the venerable "No Fly Zone" on the back end of Denver's defense, which helped the team to a Super Bowl 50 championship. Ward, though, was sidelined by a hamstring injury during the preseason, and second-year safety Justin Simmons stepped in for him, evidently making Ward and his $4.5 million salary expendable in the eyes of the front office. Word that Denver was trying to trade Ward leaked earlier in the week, but with no deal in place the team moved to cut him Saturday. --- Bucs 2. Ahtyba Rubin (free agent): The 31-year-old defensive tackle started every game for the Seahawks each of the past two seasons, after seven years in Cleveland. Seattle's trade for Sheldon Richardson on Friday crowded out Rubin on the Seahawks' 53-man roster, but the veteran run-stuffer could be a valuable addition for a team looking to bolster its depth on the defensive line. 3. Matt Jones (waiver wire): The 2015 third-round draft pick entered last season as Washington's starting running back. But after a minor midseason injury he was surpassed by Rob Kelley and spent the second half of the season inactive. He even sat out Washington's offseason program as he slid to fifth on the depth chart. He's been prone to fumbles and is not a special-teams player, but his talent will certainly catch the eye of teams submitting waiver claims. 4. Brock Osweiler (free agent): When the Browns' starting QB job went to rookie DeShone Kizer, Cleveland made the decision to cut Osweiler and eat his $16 million salary. That's not as bad as it seems; Cleveland's trade for Osweiler was always about acquiring Houston's 2018 second-round pick. Picking up Osweiler, and his albatross of a contract, was simply the cost of the deal. In a fascinating twist, multiple outlets have reported Osweiler is likely to end up back with the Broncos, the only team where he's had any success as a starter. --- Broncos 5. C.J. Spiller (free agent): The Chiefs release of the veteran running back came as something of a cutdown deadline surprise, particularly after Spencer Ware suffered a season-ending knee injury this preseason. Kansas City GM Brett Veach told reporters that Spiller could still end up on the roster, so it's possible the Chiefs bring him back after Week 1 when veteran salaries are no longer guaranteed, or that they needed his spot temporarily for some kind of roster manipulation, because they only kept two backs on the roster as of now. Or, it's possible he ends up elsewhere; the 30-year-old Spiller has bounced around the last few seasons but reports out of Kansas City were that the former first-round pick looked good in camp. 6. Joe Vellano (waiver wire): The 28-year-old defensive lineman has spent most of his NFL career battling for a roster spot; we told his story earlier this summer. Vellano had been vying for a position among a very deep Falcons defensive line, but for another team with less depth in that position group his abilty to play multiple positions on the line and his experience playing in big games—including the Super Bowl and three conference championships—could be attractive. "You do as much you can in the preseason games to show that you belong somewhere in the league," Vellano said a few weeks ago. 7. Travis Rudolph (waiver wire): The rookie receiver captured the hearts of America last fall when, during a visit to a middle school with a group of Florida State football players, he separated from the pack and ate lunch with a student with autism who was eating alone. That has no bearing on his ability to make an NFL roster, but, Rudolph also turned plenty of heads this preseason with some nifty catches. He was a surprising cut by the Giants, but they had a crowded group at the position. 8. Andy Lee (free agent): The 35-year-old punter, for whom the Panthers gave up a 2018 fourth-round pick just one year ago, lost out on Carolina's punting job this year. Lee, a three-time first team All-Pro, missed the second half of last season with a hamstring injury, and the Panthers chose this year to stick with his younger, cheaper replacement, Michael Palardy. A team in need of a reliable veteran at the position could take a look at bringing in Lee.

Sep 3, 2017 at 6:51 AM

braap49er
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TJ Ward is agreeing to go to the Buccs and Osweiler is going back to Denver

Sep 3, 2017 at 6:55 AM

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Originally posted by braap49er:
TJ Ward is agreeing to go to the Buccs and Osweiler is going back to Denver

Just examples...many more out there.

I think CB Pierre Desir would be an upgrade over Keith Reaser, we don't have a backup 3T so 3T Ahtyba Rubin would make a lot of sense there unless we bring back Marks and S Will Blackmon over Adrian Colbert.

We certainly need a real WILL or MIKE behind Bowman or Foster. Maybe an OL? TE better than Celek? Big-bodied ZWR?

[ Edited by NCommand on Sep 3, 2017 at 6:59 AM ]

Sep 3, 2017 at 6:55 AM

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Sep 3, 2017 at 6:58 AM

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Originally posted by Young2Rice:

Lock down for what?

Sep 3, 2017 at 7:04 AM

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Here's a list from Larry Krueger:

Check out @sportslarryknbrs Tweet: https://twitter.com/sportslarryknbr/status/904219981386096640?s=09

Sep 3, 2017 at 7:13 AM

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What time do waivers process

Sep 3, 2017 at 7:17 AM

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Claims in within 24 hours after release. Then processes, then awarded team notifies league of corresponding cut, then announced if not already leaked.

[ Edited by PopeyeJonesing on Sep 3, 2017 at 7:19 AM ]

Sep 3, 2017 at 7:20 AM

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I really didn't see Marks enough to be sure of his abilities these days, but I am sure the coaches did. I would not be surprised if they brought him back.

Sep 3, 2017 at 7:27 AM

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Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by Young2Rice:

Lock down for what?

For making guys think. If it isn't all laid out nice and easy....well, you know, NC.

That said, this is the absolute hardest thing to do, and is way harder than making the final cuts. And you have to improve on someone(s) who have already been thru the whittling business. True, we get second pick, but this is hard because then, the list we so painstakingly put together , has to be redone once again. Our pick from the cuts list was Laken....except that happened a day early(or 2) and would have been taking place right now. Basically, i think htat except in exceptional cases, there is going to be very litttle or few guys taken here. Everybody already went thru cuts, and if you wanted somebody bad enough, you offered a late rd pick for them. And i believe that has already happened. I could be wrong, but i think it unlikely there is any major movement here. Anybody here on this list has his warts and fleas, and everybody knows it. The guys we really wanted, we already got.

And from the list, all 10 of shalyn' s draft picks made the 53 or got onto the IR list. In addition, we got FIVE (5) UDFAs to stick...meaning that Shalyn likes their picks and that is about it. At best they would like to have kept kerley for one, but they wanted their own picks more.

And as an aside, we got 27 new guys on the team from last yr, making us 55% 1st time 9er players. Honestly, i thought the cuts list would be a big deal, but as it turned out, most teams , if they had a need, inquired about the player and traded for him, usually a 6th or 7th. That way they were assured of getting the guy they wanted.

[ Edited by pasodoc9er on Sep 3, 2017 at 7:30 AM ]

Sep 3, 2017 at 8:04 AM

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Originally posted by Bluesbro:
I really didn't see Marks enough to be sure of his abilities these days, but I am sure the coaches did. I would not be surprised if they brought him back.

Same...one of those wink-wink moves.

Sep 3, 2017 at 8:04 AM

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Originally posted by pasodoc9er:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by Young2Rice:

Lock down for what?

For making guys think. If it isn't all laid out nice and easy....well, you know, NC.

Too many words!

Sep 3, 2017 at 8:09 AM

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Per MM:

After 10am PST, the 10-player Practice Squad can be completed.

Teams have until 9am PST to put in their waiver claims.

[ Edited by NCommand on Sep 3, 2017 at 8:14 AM ]

Sep 3, 2017 at 8:11 AM

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Time to go shopping for upgrades.

I'll take Matt Jones RB over Blair (IR)
LaTroy Lewis LB over lynch
Michael Schofield OG over Gilliam
Scooby Wright LB over Coyle
Pierre Desir CB over Reaser

Sep 3, 2017 at 8:13 AM

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Originally posted by jobiwon:
Time to go shopping for upgrades.

I'll take Matt Jones RB over Blair (IR)
LaTroy Lewis LB over lynch
Michael Schofield OG over Gilliam
Scooby Wright LB over Coyle
Pierre Desir CB over Reaser

Someone is doing his h/w!