Originally posted by niners9:I wouldn't be surprised if KC cuts Alex smith after this season and DEN picks him up for 2018
That's very likely...$20 million dollar cap hit in 2018 or $3.8 million in dead money lol he gone
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Aug 17, 2017 at 10:15 AM
- NYniner85
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That's very likely...$20 million dollar cap hit in 2018 or $3.8 million in dead money lol he gone
Aug 17, 2017 at 10:15 AM
- thl408
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Originally posted by NYniner85:Hoyer said that it was nice to play against DEN in the scrimmage because they can practice more of the playbook since only DEN can see the plays (its not a preseason game). The offense is definitely limited in its playcalling for preseason games.
Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
the whole vanilla thing is just an excuse. The 1st drive for the D was horrendous. That being said, they did have a potential INT dropped that would have stopped that drive. I don't put a ton of stock into preseason but I also don't put any stock into the vanilla excuse as to why a team looks like s**t
It's actually not an excuse and kyle was even talking about it last night on sirus lol.
You're not going out there and showing anything schematically for everyone to have film on you....hence everything is dumb down and vanilla.
There is zero correlation to preseaon wins and stats to what happens in the regular season...it's mainly for getting your younger players live snaps and helping to finish out the 53 man roster.
edit: nm you guys are talking about defense.
[ Edited by thl408 on Aug 17, 2017 at 10:23 AM ]
Aug 17, 2017 at 10:17 AM
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Originally posted by mayo49:
Originally posted by mutant-man49:
Any other news on Foster's shoulder??
AC shoulder joint strain. Same shoulder different injury from his surgery.
http://www.49erswebzone.com/news/goto.php?id=108056
Damn. Shoulder strains suck. Wonder how long we will keep him out for.
Aug 17, 2017 at 10:20 AM
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Originally posted by Joecool:
Originally posted by mayo49:
Originally posted by mutant-man49:
Any other news on Foster's shoulder??
AC shoulder joint strain. Same shoulder different injury from his surgery.
http://www.49erswebzone.com/news/goto.php?id=108056
Damn. Shoulder strains suck. Wonder how long we will keep him out for.
When I separated my ac joint in rugby I kept playing the rest of the season. My guess is that if this was the season he would be in there. They get a chance to rest it a bit in the preseason so they do. He will be in there for game 1.
Aug 17, 2017 at 10:20 AM
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Originally posted by NYniner85:Originally posted by Hoovtrain:the whole vanilla thing is just an excuse. The 1st drive for the D was horrendous. That being said, they did have a potential INT dropped that would have stopped that drive. I don't put a ton of stock into preseason but I also don't put any stock into the vanilla excuse as to why a team looks like s**t
It's actually not an excuse and kyle was even talking about it last night on sirus lol.
You're not going out there and showing anything schematically for everyone to have film on you....hence everything is dumb down and vanilla.
There is zero correlation to preseaon wins and stats to what happens in the regular season...it's mainly for getting your younger players live snaps and helping to finish out the 53 man roster.
No I get that they dumb things down...I just get tired of the excuse "well the D looked bad because they are running a vanilla scheme" Been hearing (and saying it) that for I don't know how long and then when it carries over into the regular season what's the excuse then?
[ Edited by Hoovtrain on Aug 17, 2017 at 10:21 AM ]
Aug 17, 2017 at 10:22 AM
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Originally posted by spraked:
Originally posted by Joecool:
Originally posted by mayo49:
Originally posted by mutant-man49:
Any other news on Foster's shoulder??
AC shoulder joint strain. Same shoulder different injury from his surgery.
http://www.49erswebzone.com/news/goto.php?id=108056
Damn. Shoulder strains suck. Wonder how long we will keep him out for.
When I separated my ac joint in rugby I kept playing the rest of the season. My guess is that if this was the season he would be in there. They get a chance to rest it a bit in the preseason so they do. He will be in there for game 1.
I say don't play any starter in preseason. f**k that s**t. No injuries.
Aug 17, 2017 at 10:22 AM
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Originally posted by Hoovtrain:Originally posted by NYniner85:Originally posted by Hoovtrain:the whole vanilla thing is just an excuse. The 1st drive for the D was horrendous. That being said, they did have a potential INT dropped that would have stopped that drive. I don't put a ton of stock into preseason but I also don't put any stock into the vanilla excuse as to why a team looks like s**t
It's actually not an excuse and kyle was even talking about it last night on sirus lol.
You're not going out there and showing anything schematically for everyone to have film on you....hence everything is dumb down and vanilla.
There is zero correlation to preseaon wins and stats to what happens in the regular season...it's mainly for getting your younger players live snaps and helping to finish out the 53 man roster.
No I get that they dumb things down...I just get tired of the excuse "well the D looked bad because they are running a vanilla scheme" Been hearing (and saying it) that for I don't know how long and then when it carries over into the regular season what's the excuse then?
One thing for sure is that we are definitely not starting the same guys that started against KC against Carolina
Aug 17, 2017 at 10:35 AM
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Originally posted by Joecool:
Damn. Shoulder strains suck. Wonder how long we will keep him out for.
Reuben Foster update... pic.twitter.com/LfqEsaPYB5
— Matt Maiocco (@MaioccoNBCS) August 17, 2017
Aug 17, 2017 at 10:36 AM
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Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:Originally posted by Hoovtrain:Originally posted by NYniner85:Originally posted by Hoovtrain:the whole vanilla thing is just an excuse. The 1st drive for the D was horrendous. That being said, they did have a potential INT dropped that would have stopped that drive. I don't put a ton of stock into preseason but I also don't put any stock into the vanilla excuse as to why a team looks like s**t
It's actually not an excuse and kyle was even talking about it last night on sirus lol.
You're not going out there and showing anything schematically for everyone to have film on you....hence everything is dumb down and vanilla.
There is zero correlation to preseaon wins and stats to what happens in the regular season...it's mainly for getting your younger players live snaps and helping to finish out the 53 man roster.
No I get that they dumb things down...I just get tired of the excuse "well the D looked bad because they are running a vanilla scheme" Been hearing (and saying it) that for I don't know how long and then when it carries over into the regular season what's the excuse then?
One thing for sure is that we are definitely not starting the same guys that started against KC against Carolina
Agreed.
Aug 17, 2017 at 10:37 AM
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Originally posted by spraked:Did it heal with rest or surgery?
When I separated my ac joint in rugby I kept playing the rest of the season. My guess is that if this was the season he would be in there. They get a chance to rest it a bit in the preseason so they do. He will be in there for game 1.
Aug 17, 2017 at 10:38 AM
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Originally posted by spraked:
Originally posted by Joecool:
Originally posted by mayo49:
Originally posted by mutant-man49:
Any other news on Foster's shoulder??
AC shoulder joint strain. Same shoulder different injury from his surgery.
http://www.49erswebzone.com/news/goto.php?id=108056
Damn. Shoulder strains suck. Wonder how long we will keep him out for.
When I separated my ac joint in rugby I kept playing the rest of the season. My guess is that if this was the season he would be in there. They get a chance to rest it a bit in the preseason so they do. He will be in there for game 1.
Yeah, they'll just tape him up. He'll be good to go.
Aug 17, 2017 at 10:40 AM
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Originally posted by thl408:
Originally posted by spraked:Did it heal with rest or surgery?
When I separated my ac joint in rugby I kept playing the rest of the season. My guess is that if this was the season he would be in there. They get a chance to rest it a bit in the preseason so they do. He will be in there for game 1.
Depends on if it's a 1-degree, 2-degree, 3-degree, ... up to 6-degree AC separation. I had a 3-degree separation. Essentially, how many of the shoulder ligaments were torn. 4+ becomes a 'surgery required' situation. 3 is dicey, and 2 or 1 is a pain management situation and PT.
Aug 17, 2017 at 10:40 AM
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Originally posted by Jcool:
Originally posted by Joecool:
Damn. Shoulder strains suck. Wonder how long we will keep him out for.
Reuben Foster update... pic.twitter.com/LfqEsaPYB5
— Matt Maiocco (@MaioccoNBCS) August 17, 2017
Doesn't look like he is favoring it like Armstead did when he got hurt. Fingers crossed that is a good sign.
Aug 17, 2017 at 10:42 AM
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Originally posted by Hoovtrain:No I get that they dumb things down...I just get tired of the excuse "well the D looked bad because they are running a vanilla scheme" Been hearing (and saying it) that for I don't know how long and then when it carries over into the regular season what's the excuse then?
Welp how about we wait until the season starts? Until then that's exactly what it is a dumbed down vanilla scheme...I don't think anyone expects SF to magically go from the worst D in the NFL to top 5 in one off season either
Aug 17, 2017 at 10:45 AM
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Originally posted by NinerBuff:
Originally posted by thl408:
Originally posted by spraked:Did it heal with rest or surgery?
When I separated my ac joint in rugby I kept playing the rest of the season. My guess is that if this was the season he would be in there. They get a chance to rest it a bit in the preseason so they do. He will be in there for game 1.
Depends on if it's a 1-degree, 2-degree, 3-degree, ... up to 6-degree AC separation. I had a 3-degree separation. Essentially, how many of the shoulder ligaments were torn. 4+ becomes a 'surgery required' situation. 3 is dicey, and 2 or 1 is a pain management situation and PT.
They are holding him out of practice and just got Shane Skov, to me that's not a good sign. Looks like next years draft will be defense again.