Really? Vegas picks us for 4.5 Ws... | Page 20

pasodoc9er · 2017-05-02T16:08:33-07:00

I am not a betting man but how do I get my money down on this turkey? First question is why? Next is, did they by chance see the draft...and read reports that 9 of those 10 are expected to make the team? Follow up is did they miss the firing of tomsul? How about Chip? Did they happen to notice our HC was the top OC in the league? Did they note our struggling QB has "moved on" ? True we do have a journeyman QB as well as a journeyman backup. But Hoyer has played for Kyle before. Is THAT what the 4 1/2 Ws is about? Is the D that gave up the most yrds last yr, still the same? Did they note that we now have AA, Buck and Solomon all on the same DL? By chance did they pick up on Foster being drafted by us late in rd 1? And we signed a tall potential starting press corner in Witherspoon? Have they noted that by start of season literally 50% or more of the team will have turned over? Did they note we have NOBODY on IR or injured as opposed to ending the season with 17 guys on IR...our average for the last 3 yrs? Are they aware that our strength on D has been the DBs, and that we just improved them? Are they aware the team that tomsul somehow limped to the finish line with 5 Ws, couldn't hold a candle to the talent on this team? If this is all based on QB, then they have made a huge miscalculation. With Kyle, it isn't the Qb, it is his coaching of the QB and his playcalling that makes the difference. I don't expect Hoyer to be great, but i sure expect him to carry out Kyle's plays. And that in and of itself is worth a handful of Ws. IF this 4.5 Ws is in part based on no #1 WR, ok, fair point. No FR QB, no #1 WR. But what they somehow missed is that in one FA/Draft, is that the literally dozens of holes that were there ...have now been patched? Maybe it is just too much of a leap to see that 2-14 team as anything else than what we were last yr. But not even close inspection will show them we aren't even close to that smelly pile of garbage that finished with 14 Ls. Did Vegas happen to notice that finallly, Jed has taken himself out of the picture, and turned this over to the pros? Did they catch the twin 6 yr contracts of both GM And HC? This team looks no more like that tomsul 5 W team than it looks like a giant maggot. This team with no TC looks faster , bigger, better, meaner than any team we have fielded in 4 yrs. And it sure doesn't look like that 2 W team of Chip's. I can only assume bets will be so outlandishly against 4.5 Ws that the Ws will have to be jacked up. If not, bet away.

Sep 4, 2017 at 4:51 PM

#286

LasVegasWally
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Year One of "The Rebuild"

IMO, first 6-8 games will be frustrating at times.

Then we'll start to gel.

We will be playing a number of very good teams who have drafted well for the last 5 years or more.

Teams that have built a culture and are well oiled machines w/some flaws.

IMO, 4 - 12

Nobody will hand us a blowout and we'll have some nail-biter losses.

We will be viewed as a MUCH better team than our record indicates.

The whole league will take notice what KS/JL have done and quality FA will want to play here.

we'll have a top 5 draft pick and we'll have built an experienced foundation.

Those are my expectations going into year 2 of the rebuild.

If we do better than

if not we'll survive.

Sep 4, 2017 at 5:55 PM

#287

teylo31
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Originally posted by LasVegasWally:
Year One of "The Rebuild"

IMO, first 6-8 games will be frustrating at times.

Then we'll start to gel.

We will be playing a number of very good teams who have drafted well for the last 5 years or more.

Teams that have built a culture and are well oiled machines w/some flaws.

IMO, 4 - 12

Nobody will hand us a blowout and we'll have some nail-biter losses.

We will be viewed as a MUCH better team than our record indicates.

The whole league will take notice what KS/JL have done and quality FA will want to play here.

we'll have a top 5 draft pick and we'll have built an experienced foundation.

Those are my expectations going into year 2 of the rebuild.

If we do better than if not we'll survive.

I'm pretty sure we will have 1 maybe a couple

Sep 4, 2017 at 6:19 PM

#288

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I was just looking at the schedule of games in October:

Sunday, Oct. 1 at Arizona 1:05 p.m
Sunday, Oct. 8 at Indianapolis 10 a.m.
Sunday, Oct. 15 at Washington 10 a.m.
Sunday, Oct. 22 vs. Dallas (home game) 1:05 p.m.
Sunday, Oct. 29 at Philadelphia 10 a.m.

Each of those could be winnable games (some long shots, though) if things fall into place sufficiently, but the schedule itself is kinda brutal. Four away games with three of those starting at 10:00 in the space of a month. Do you think that having a lot of youth on the team will help deal with the schedule or do you think that young players will struggle with the schedule?

[ Edited by 49erphan on Sep 4, 2017 at 7:45 PM ]

Sep 4, 2017 at 6:21 PM

#289

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Originally posted by teylo31:
I'm pretty sure we will have 1 maybe a couple

Just to be clear, I assume you mean we'll be on the short end of a couple of blowouts. It could well be 4 or more, given the quality of competition, and the fact that our pass defense is likely to be very weak. Any team we play with a good passing attack will not be a fun experience.

Sep 4, 2017 at 6:24 PM

#290

49erThrowback
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Originally posted by 49erphan:
I was just looking at the schedule of games in October:

Sunday, Oct. 1 at Arizona 1:05 p.m
Sunday, Oct. 8 at Indianapolis 10 a.m.
Sunday, Oct. 15 at Washington 10 a.m.
Sunday, Oct. 22 vs. Dallas (home game) 1:05 p.m.
Sunday, Oct. 29 at Philadelphia 10 a.m.

All of those could be winnable games (some long shots, though) if things fall into place sufficiently, but the schedule itself is kinda brutal. Four away games with three of those starting at 10:00 in the space of a month. Do you think that having a lot of youth on the team will help deal with the schedule or do you think that young players will struggle with the schedule?

Arizona has the second best head coach in the league right now, and will be looking to take no prisoners after last year's underachievement. Indy is a toss-up, depending on whether Luck is on the field. Washington, Dallas, and Philly will murder us; we're just not in their class.

Sep 4, 2017 at 6:27 PM

#291

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Originally posted by 49erphan:
I was just looking at the schedule of games in October:

Sunday, Oct. 1 at Arizona 1:05 p.m
Sunday, Oct. 8 at Indianapolis 10 a.m.
Sunday, Oct. 15 at Washington 10 a.m.
Sunday, Oct. 22 vs. Dallas (home game) 1:05 p.m.
Sunday, Oct. 29 at Philadelphia 10 a.m.

All of those could be winnable games (some long shots, though) if things fall into place sufficiently, but the schedule itself is kinda brutal. Four away games with three of those starting at 10:00 in the space of a month. Do you think that having a lot of youth on the team will help deal with the schedule or do you think that young players will struggle with the schedule?

Sep 4, 2017 at 6:45 PM

#292

teylo31
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Originally posted by 49erThrowback:
Originally posted by teylo31:
I'm pretty sure we will have 1 maybe a couple

Just to be clear, I assume you mean we'll be on the short end of a couple of blowouts. It could well be 4 or more, given the quality of competition, and the fact that our pass defense is likely to be very weak. Any team we play with a good passing attack will not be a fun experience.

Yes

Sep 4, 2017 at 6:56 PM

#293

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I have us winning vs Rams, @Skins, @Bears, and Jaguars. If we're lucky we sneak in a win or two against Panthers and Cards at home. You'll never know. It'll all depend on injury situation.

Sep 4, 2017 at 8:47 PM

#294

Lurker
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Good bulletin board material. Something for them to use as motivation.

Sep 4, 2017 at 10:05 PM

#295

LVJay
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Originally posted by ronniefreakinlott42:

Originally posted by 49erphan:
I was just looking at the schedule of games in October:

Sunday, Oct. 1 at Arizona 1:05 p.m
Sunday, Oct. 8 at Indianapolis 10 a.m.
Sunday, Oct. 15 at Washington 10 a.m.
Sunday, Oct. 22 vs. Dallas (home game) 1:05 p.m.
Sunday, Oct. 29 at Philadelphia 10 a.m.

All of those could be winnable games (some long shots, though) if things fall into place sufficiently, but the schedule itself is kinda brutal. Four away games with three of those starting at 10:00 in the space of a month. Do you think that having a lot of youth on the team will help deal with the schedule or do you think that young players will struggle with the schedule?

Colts game is very winnable if Luck is out. Cowboys come here so why not

...

As for Tards, they're one Palmer away from being mediocre (they got a good D however)

Philly and Deadskins might use us to wipe their ass doe

Sep 4, 2017 at 11:02 PM

#296

SmokeCrabtrees
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Originally posted by LVJay:
Originally posted by ronniefreakinlott42:
Originally posted by 49erphan:
I was just looking at the schedule of games in October:

Sunday, Oct. 1 at Arizona 1:05 p.m
Sunday, Oct. 8 at Indianapolis 10 a.m.
Sunday, Oct. 15 at Washington 10 a.m.
Sunday, Oct. 22 vs. Dallas (home game) 1:05 p.m.
Sunday, Oct. 29 at Philadelphia 10 a.m.

All of those could be winnable games (some long shots, though) if things fall into place sufficiently, but the schedule itself is kinda brutal. Four away games with three of those starting at 10:00 in the space of a month. Do you think that having a lot of youth on the team will help deal with the schedule or do you think that young players will struggle with the schedule?

Colts game is very winnable if Luck is out. Cowboys come here so why not ...

As for Tards, they're one Palmer away from being mediocre (they got a good D however)

Philly and Deadskins might use us to wipe their ass doe

I truly believe if we split first two games and win the 3rd at home vs the rams we have a shot to steal the division.

Time will tell.

Ill be at the lambs game on TNF.

Sep 5, 2017 at 12:43 AM

#297

English
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Originally posted by Young2Rice:
This is the worst team in the league.

Adding some ok free agents and one draft isn't changing that too much.

We don't really have much starting material at many positions.

Browns Bills and Jets all want to say hi.

Sep 5, 2017 at 2:07 AM

#298

communist
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You should temper your expectations.
I think that our defense will be very competitive through the entire game.
However, Shanahan's offense needed a whole year to be efficient with Ryan and Jones, respectively. Keep that in mind.

Sep 5, 2017 at 5:48 PM

#299

smithgdwg
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Originally posted by father49er:
I have us winning vs Rams, @Skins, @Bears, and Jaguars. If we're lucky we sneak in a win or two against Panthers and Cards at home. You'll never know. It'll all depend on injury situation.

If its like the previous 2 years, we will beat the Panthers then get blown out by Seattle which will causes a drastic free-fall.

Probably ending up with around 4 wins.

Sep 5, 2017 at 5:58 PM

#300

Young2Rice
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Originally posted by English:
Originally posted by Young2Rice:
This is the worst team in the league.

Adding some ok free agents and one draft isn't changing that too much.

We don't really have much starting material at many positions.

Browns Bills and Jets all want to say hi.

Its arguable. And that in itself stinks.