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Originally posted by dj43:
Originally posted by JTsBiggestFan:
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:
The longest-tenured coach in 49ers history? Bill Walsh with 10 years.

Kyle you've got 10 more years to beat that record. I'd start off by making the playoffs by the end of the decade.

Win a SB, climb to 3rd on the list of all time 49ers HC's. Earn degree of difficulty points for taking over a bombed out roster.

I'd love for Kyle to be our #2 all time head coach, even over Seifert.

Now we all love George and he will always be a 49er legend (he coached on all 5 SB champion teams), but if Kyle gets 2 for our beloved team that would be enough to get him there considering the vastly different circumstances behind their hirings.

Maintaining a consistent winning record in today's NFL where parity/mediocrity is valued over long-term success, is very difficult. Love him or hate him, Tom Brady notwithstanding, Bill Belichick's record demands he be considered among the top two or three coaches ever for being able put together such a consistent winning history.

If Kyle, with Lynch's help, can come anywhere close to that conversation in the next 6-8 years, he will deserve a statue.

Agreed. Hoodie, for all the controversies, the winning record and 8 SB appearances in the salary cap era is unprecedented. I mean, the guy went 10-6 with Matt Cassel at QB.
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Originally posted by dj43:
Originally posted by JTsBiggestFan:
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:
The longest-tenured coach in 49ers history? Bill Walsh with 10 years.

Kyle you've got 10 more years to beat that record. I'd start off by making the playoffs by the end of the decade.

Win a SB, climb to 3rd on the list of all time 49ers HC's. Earn degree of difficulty points for taking over a bombed out roster.

I'd love for Kyle to be our #2 all time head coach, even over Seifert.

Now we all love George and he will always be a 49er legend (he coached on all 5 SB champion teams), but if Kyle gets 2 for our beloved team that would be enough to get him there considering the vastly different circumstances behind their hirings.

Maintaining a consistent winning record in today's NFL where parity/mediocrity is valued over long-term success, is very difficult. Love him or hate him, Tom Brady notwithstanding, Bill Belichick's record demands he be considered among the top two or three coaches ever for being able put together such a consistent winning history.

If Kyle, with Lynch's help, can come anywhere close to that conversation in the next 6-8 years, he will deserve a statue.

I respect the winning record Bellicheat has with Tom, but in terms of innovation, I think Bellicheat's contribution to Football is his capanomic approach to talent evaluation. He's a good defensive coach and a good offensive coach. It takes a special coach that doesn't have a lot of offensive experience to coach the offense when his OC dies and not skip a beat on offense. Got to hand it to him for that, but what makes him fall below legendary status of Lombardie and Walsh is all the controversies he's been in while being coach. Just my opinion, but if you cheat to win, I think that devalues whatever wins a coach has.

As for Kyle, I think he truly is an innovative offensive coach. I don't know if he'll usher in new kinds of offensive philosophies like Walsh, Landry and Lombardi did, but amoung all the coaches now coaching in the NFL, I think he has the highest potential to change the game at the level of a Walsh or Lombardi.
Damn right!

Originally posted by NYniner85:
Damn right!


I like their podcast, it's really good
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Originally posted by Giedi:
Originally posted by dj43:
Originally posted by JTsBiggestFan:
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:
The longest-tenured coach in 49ers history? Bill Walsh with 10 years.

Kyle you've got 10 more years to beat that record. I'd start off by making the playoffs by the end of the decade.

Win a SB, climb to 3rd on the list of all time 49ers HC's. Earn degree of difficulty points for taking over a bombed out roster.

I'd love for Kyle to be our #2 all time head coach, even over Seifert.

Now we all love George and he will always be a 49er legend (he coached on all 5 SB champion teams), but if Kyle gets 2 for our beloved team that would be enough to get him there considering the vastly different circumstances behind their hirings.

Maintaining a consistent winning record in today's NFL where parity/mediocrity is valued over long-term success, is very difficult. Love him or hate him, Tom Brady notwithstanding, Bill Belichick's record demands he be considered among the top two or three coaches ever for being able put together such a consistent winning history.

If Kyle, with Lynch's help, can come anywhere close to that conversation in the next 6-8 years, he will deserve a statue.

I respect the winning record Bellicheat has with Tom, but in terms of innovation, I think Bellicheat's contribution to Football is his capanomic approach to talent evaluation. He's a good defensive coach and a good offensive coach. It takes a special coach that doesn't have a lot of offensive experience to coach the offense when his OC dies and not skip a beat on offense. Got to hand it to him for that, but what makes him fall below legendary status of Lombardie and Walsh is all the controversies he's been in while being coach. Just my opinion, but if you cheat to win, I think that devalues whatever wins a coach has.

As for Kyle, I think he truly is an innovative offensive coach. I don't know if he'll usher in new kinds of offensive philosophies like Walsh, Landry and Lombardi did, but amoung all the coaches now coaching in the NFL, I think he has the highest potential to change the game at the level of a Walsh or Lombardi.

I think his depth of offensive knowledge and willingness to innovate will stand him well there for a good number of years.

Where he will determine his long-term success is his ability to put a strong, consistent defensive team on the field. That ability was the overlooked genius of Bill Walsh. He didn't just "get lucky" with George Siefert and the rest of that D staff. He understood what it takes in order for the offense to have a ball to play with.

This is where John Lynch comes into play. If all the stories are true, and I have no reason to doubt them, Kyle picked Lynch as his GM over other guys. Did Kyle realize that defense was his weakness and therefore needed a strong defensive mind like Lynch to balance the equation? We don't know the answer but it could very well have played into it.
[ Edited by dj43 on Aug 8, 2018 at 2:17 PM ]
Originally posted by DonnieDarko:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Damn right!


I like their podcast, it's really good

Same here, good stuff
Originally posted by NYniner85:

We had honey badgers with Harbaugh, now we have sharks with Kyle

[ Edited by qnnhan7 on Aug 9, 2018 at 10:42 AM ]
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Originally posted by NYniner85:
Nice quote from Kyle: ""If you bring in the right people, the culture takes care of itself. And so our whole deal was, we want people who work hard, overachievers, whether they're talented or not, because they're grinding and they're always trying to earn something."
Glad he didn't say 'a winning culture'
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Originally posted by dj43:
I think his depth of offensive knowledge and willingness to innovate will stand him well there for a good number of years.

Where he will determine his long-term success is his ability to put a strong, consistent defensive team on the field. That ability was the overlooked genius of Bill Walsh. He didn't just "get lucky" with George Siefert and the rest of that D staff. He understood what it takes in order for the offense to have a ball to play with.

This is where John Lynch comes into play. If all the stories are true, and I have no reason to doubt them, Kyle picked Lynch as his GM over other guys. Did Kyle realize that defense was his weakness and therefore needed a strong defensive mind like Lynch to balance the equation? We don't know the answer but it could very well have played into it.

I have no doubt Kyle picked John for his defensive acumen. I just tried to search for an old Bill Walsh interview on his criteria of the best kind of DC for the modern NFL passing era and he said a coach with defensive back experience. A former DB as a defensive coordinator knows how important a pass rush is, and that's one of the major reasons he would hire a former DB as DC. Can't find it, it was an old SF Chron column in the early 90's.
Going thru lots of the film on JimmyG , the one thing that stood out besides the JG highlites were the playcall highlites. Man do Kyle's plays ever get guys open or what? A guy like Kap would never have thrived here because he couldn't make reads to save his life. He couldn't. Some do, some don't. But kylee also requires his QB getting the ball gone, and man does Jimmy ever have that capability. Basically all the feckless , useless, effort spent the last 20 yrs has been wasted and is now long gone. This is the new era and JG and KYle, or better JG/Kyle is here. This wouldn't have worked with the stodgy old Harbaw, this is an O for a special, the best QB to set foot on the field in a long , long time . But make no mistake. JG is paired with the best OC he could possibly ever have... kyle . One was made for the other. Together, they are way more than the sum of the parts. Kyle's plays, not to mention his play calling, are just non-pareil . There is no equal. Well, ok BB. But before that it was BW. And that is what it looks like we are getting back to. BW type plays and play calling.
Kyle Shanahan is going to scheme Jimmie Ward, Joshua Garnett and Arik Armstead healthy. COTY
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All them injuries just validates that kyle runs a powder puff training camp with not much hitting and bunch of dudes dancing around to music. I expected that was going happen.
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