49ers Head Coach Kyle Shanahan Thread

We've done it multiple times against mcdonald so I'm not sure why this is a mystery. Go back and look at the games we won.

Originally posted by HearstFan:
How and who is going to come up with the game plan to beat Seattle's defense? The 9ers and Rams have to be working on this constantly.

Ok, the Seahawks defense isn't just exceptional personnel. Their personnel look exceptional because the scheme is so incredibly sound at stopping each opponent's offense. But overall, their defensive philosophy seems to be to smother an offense with a medium and high shell of disciplined and tight coverage at those depths, which gives the DL time to get pressure. Exploit the OL's protection rules to create free rushers (similar to Brian Flores).

What they are totally willing to give up is the underneath routes - even the crossers - with the discipline of the shell to rally to the tackle and keep it short gains. The other area they leave vulnerable is the outside deep, which is still harder to attack when a deep shell can react to the outside.

I think part of this plan is to wait for the offensive to get impatient with the suffocating play and constant struggle to convert 3rd downs - and then an offense presses and either get's incompletions or turnovers in the medium and deep routes.

1. Do you try to come up with a run plan that can get them out of the shell coverage of their LBs and DBs?
2. I think Evans and Stribling (with the expectation of Pearsall's speed across the middle) were intended to attach the deep outside.

ANY IDEAS?

I merged this into the Shanahan thread for now if you're in a rush to discuss Seattle 2 weeks before we play them.

Originally posted by HearstFan:
How and who is going to come up with the game plan to beat Seattle's defense? The 9ers and Rams have to be working on this constantly.

Ok, the Seahawks defense isn't just exceptional personnel. Their personnel look exceptional because the scheme is so incredibly sound at stopping each opponent's offense. But overall, their defensive philosophy seems to be to smother an offense with a medium and high shell of disciplined and tight coverage at those depths, which gives the DL time to get pressure. Exploit the OL's protection rules to create free rushers (similar to Brian Flores).

What they are totally willing to give up is the underneath routes - even the crossers - with the discipline of the shell to rally to the tackle and keep it short gains. The other area they leave vulnerable is the outside deep, which is still harder to attack when a deep shell can react to the outside.

I think part of this plan is to wait for the offensive to get impatient with the suffocating play and constant struggle to convert 3rd downs - and then an offense presses and either get's incompletions or turnovers in the medium and deep routes.

1. Do you try to come up with a run plan that can get them out of the shell coverage of their LBs and DBs?
2. I think Evans and Stribling (with the expectation of Pearsall's speed across the middle) were intended to attach the deep outside.

ANY IDEAS?

the quaking in our boots is overdone they aren't that good i don't think they are much better than rams, pats, texans, even our own D tbh. they don't have a warner or bosa for example, they wish they did. we are gonna have warner who is punching everything out vs a rook back or drew lock or sam, good luck

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by HearstFan:
How and who is going to come up with the game plan to beat Seattle's defense? The 9ers and Rams have to be working on this constantly.

Ok, the Seahawks defense isn't just exceptional personnel. Their personnel look exceptional because the scheme is so incredibly sound at stopping each opponent's offense. But overall, their defensive philosophy seems to be to smother an offense with a medium and high shell of disciplined and tight coverage at those depths, which gives the DL time to get pressure. Exploit the OL's protection rules to create free rushers (similar to Brian Flores).

What they are totally willing to give up is the underneath routes - even the crossers - with the discipline of the shell to rally to the tackle and keep it short gains. The other area they leave vulnerable is the outside deep, which is still harder to attack when a deep shell can react to the outside.

I think part of this plan is to wait for the offensive to get impatient with the suffocating play and constant struggle to convert 3rd downs - and then an offense presses and either get's incompletions or turnovers in the medium and deep routes.

1. Do you try to come up with a run plan that can get them out of the shell coverage of their LBs and DBs?
2. I think Evans and Stribling (with the expectation of Pearsall's speed across the middle) were intended to attach the deep outside.

ANY IDEAS?

the quaking in our boots is overdone they aren't that good i don't think they are much better than rams, pats, texans, even our own D tbh. they don't have a warner or bosa for example, they wish they did. we are gonna have warner who is punching everything out vs a rook back or drew lock or sam, good luck

It's week 3 so we don't really know for sure but considering what they did last year and seeing how they've played so far it's not an overreaction to say they're the best defense in the league right now.

Now do I think we need a separate thread on how to attack them? No...especially since we have 2 other teams to deal with before we get to them.

It will be a challenge against them for sure when the time comes. Hopefully we go into that game without losing any further players who can help us break through their scheme. Having Mike is critical but the biggest thing will be simple - can the OL hold up against their front? If yes then we should be able to win. If they get killed again then Brock will have to play perfect football and our defense will need to have a heck of a game against their offense.

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by HearstFan:
How and who is going to come up with the game plan to beat Seattle's defense? The 9ers and Rams have to be working on this constantly.

Ok, the Seahawks defense isn't just exceptional personnel. Their personnel look exceptional because the scheme is so incredibly sound at stopping each opponent's offense. But overall, their defensive philosophy seems to be to smother an offense with a medium and high shell of disciplined and tight coverage at those depths, which gives the DL time to get pressure. Exploit the OL's protection rules to create free rushers (similar to Brian Flores).

What they are totally willing to give up is the underneath routes - even the crossers - with the discipline of the shell to rally to the tackle and keep it short gains. The other area they leave vulnerable is the outside deep, which is still harder to attack when a deep shell can react to the outside.

I think part of this plan is to wait for the offensive to get impatient with the suffocating play and constant struggle to convert 3rd downs - and then an offense presses and either get's incompletions or turnovers in the medium and deep routes.

1. Do you try to come up with a run plan that can get them out of the shell coverage of their LBs and DBs?
2. I think Evans and Stribling (with the expectation of Pearsall's speed across the middle) were intended to attach the deep outside.

ANY IDEAS?

the quaking in our boots is overdone they aren't that good i don't think they are much better than rams, pats, texans, even our own D tbh. they don't have a warner or bosa for example, they wish they did. we are gonna have warner who is punching everything out vs a rook back or drew lock or sam, good luck

It's week 3 so we don't really know for sure but considering what they did last year and seeing how they've played so far it's not an overreaction to say they're the best defense in the league right now.

Now do I think we need a separate thread on how to attack them? No...especially since we have 2 other teams to deal with before we get to them.

It will be a challenge against them for sure when the time comes. Hopefully we go into that game without losing any further players who can help us break through their scheme. Having Mike is critical but the biggest thing will be simple - can the OL hold up against their front? If yes then we should be able to win. If they get killed again then Brock will have to play perfect football and our defense will need to have a heck of a game against their offense.

i'm just tired of ppl in all threads bloviating over mcdonald and ben 3 pts johnson
each year is different im not impressed with maye throwing them the ball and beating the cards either, now what SF did to stafford week 1 was impressive; you can book it now kyle will move it up on down on mcdonald unless the whole team is injured

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
i'm just tired of ppl in all threads bloviating over mcdonald and ben 3 pts johnson
each year is different im not impressed with maye throwing them the ball and beating the cards either, now what SF did to stafford week 1 was impressive; you can book it now kyle will move it up on down on mcdonald unless the whole team is injured

I will not book it, lol.

Hopefully our defense can stop the run and contain JSN. I trust our offense more than theirs in a close low-mid scoring game.

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
i'm just tired of ppl in all threads bloviating over mcdonald and ben 3 pts johnson
each year is different im not impressed with maye throwing them the ball and beating the cards either, now what SF did to stafford week 1 was impressive; you can book it now kyle will move it up on down on mcdonald unless the whole team is injured

We will see soon enough. I hope you're right. I just can't buy all in on week 1 given the travel situation and Garrett being injured and no Donald.

But like I said I hope you're 100% right.

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
i'm just tired of ppl in all threads bloviating over mcdonald and ben 3 pts johnson
each year is different im not impressed with maye throwing them the ball and beating the cards either, now what SF did to stafford week 1 was impressive; you can book it now kyle will move it up on down on mcdonald unless the whole team is injured

Of course we should be impressed. Did more in less time frame with a team in rebuild mode.

Originally posted by DrEll:
Of course we should be impressed. Did more in less time frame with a team in rebuild mode.

Dude looks like a serial killer, lol.

Originally posted by DrEll:
Of course we should be impressed. Did more in less time frame with a team in rebuild mode.

Beating the beat up 9ers and awful afc represnatative isnt particularly impressive.

Originally posted by DrEll:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
i'm just tired of ppl in all threads bloviating over mcdonald and ben 3 pts johnson
each year is different im not impressed with maye throwing them the ball and beating the cards either, now what SF did to stafford week 1 was impressive; you can book it now kyle will move it up on down on mcdonald unless the whole team is injured

Of course we should be impressed. Did more in less time frame with a team in rebuild mode.

Oh look the guy who did nothing but talk s**t on Shanahan is impressed by another NFC west coach. Better be careful McVay may see you fluffing Mcdonald

Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Oh look the guy who did nothing but talk s**t on Shanahan is impressed by another NFC west coach. Better be careful McVay may see you fluffing Mcdonald

Did you see LaFleur vs the Chargers? Kyle is the 4th worst coach on division

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Oh look the guy who did nothing but talk s**t on Shanahan is impressed by another NFC west coach. Better be careful McVay may see you fluffing Mcdonald

Did you see LaFleur vs the Chargers? Kyle is the 4th worst coach on division

LaFleur is doing more with less so yeah he doesn't need an avengers squads to win like Shanahan.

Originally posted by Hysterikal:

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Oh look the guy who did nothing but talk s**t on Shanahan is impressed by another NFC west coach. Better be careful McVay may see you fluffing Mcdonald

Did you see LaFleur vs the Chargers? Kyle is the 4th worst coach on division

LaFleur is doing more with less so yeah he doesn't need an avengers squads to win like Shanahan.

If he wins the Super Bowl then there is an argument to be made…

If anyone can gameplan an offense specifically to bring out the faults in the Seattle Shehaggots defense, it's KS. Rest easy.