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Originally posted by maltz88:
Originally posted by genus49:
Did he have him figured out in their first 3 games? 2 of which we won and the 3rd lost after Nick Bosa got injured and our defense couldn't get any stops while we were playing with a banged up offense?

MacDonald is a terrific coach and he has a great defense in Seattle which will be a grind to go up against but let's stop crowning these teams until we see how everyone looks this season. We have a lot of changes on our team. I'm confident Kyle isn't sitting back just to roll out the same game plan against them this season.

I think SF, SEA, and LAR are all pretty much a toss up in this division.

But on this point specifically, wouldn't a trend showing the outcomes of games having shifted from splitting, or even losing the first few games, to then consistently winning support an argument of "figuring it out?" Not sure using the first 3 games actually counters the figuring them out argument.

They've won 2 in a row. I don't see that as consistently winning, especially considering how banged up we were by those final two games.
Originally posted by 49ersRing:
They've won 2 in a row. I don't see that as consistently winning, especially considering how banged up we were by those final two games.

My only point was in regard to referencing the 1st 3 games in a series refuting another team "figuring the other" out. More of a logic, or statistics point.

I don't personally believe Seattle has SF figured out, and don't put any one of SF, SEA, or LAR over the other.
Originally posted by maltz88:
Originally posted by 49ersRing:
They've won 2 in a row. I don't see that as consistently winning, especially considering how banged up we were by those final two games.

My only point was in regard to referencing the 1st 3 games in a series refuting another team "figuring the other" out. More of a logic, or statistics point.

I don't personally believe Seattle has SF figured out, and don't put any one of SF, SEA, or LAR over the other.

Fair enough.
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Originally posted by genus49:
Originally posted by BoldRedandGold:
Really doesn't seem to matter. MacDonald has him brock and cmc figured out. They have the talent to lock the offense down completely without any actual quickness to match up with the Seahawks young core... Ie nobody is open ever for brock to throw to.

Did he have him figured out in their first 3 games? 2 of which we won and the 3rd lost after Nick Bosa got injured and our defense couldn't get any stops while we were playing with a banged up offense?

MacDonald is a terrific coach and he has a great defense in Seattle which will be a grind to go up against but let's stop crowning these teams until we see how everyone looks this season. We have a lot of changes on our team. I'm confident Kyle isn't sitting back just to roll out the same game plan against them this season.

It's hard not to crown teams when they've already got the crown. Can't pretend just bc it's a new year, recent SB wins don't count all of a sudden…
^^^ Ghost of Denny Green up in here
Originally posted by Afrikan:
Cowing is tiny...

At least with our other speedsters, there is still the threat of the run.

Cowing is small but not someone who necessarily tips off run vs pass. You just run to the other side of where he's lined up. Not to mention he himself can help on run plays like end arounds and other gadget plays.

Desean Jackson had a very successful career and wasn't much bigger than him. Extra inch height and maybe 5 more lbs(don't know what Cowing is at right now)

Tank Dell looked like a pretty good WR for Houston before his horrible injury and he's even smaller than Cowing in terms of weight.
Originally posted by DrEll:
Originally posted by genus49:
Originally posted by BoldRedandGold:
Really doesn't seem to matter. MacDonald has him brock and cmc figured out. They have the talent to lock the offense down completely without any actual quickness to match up with the Seahawks young core... Ie nobody is open ever for brock to throw to.

Did he have him figured out in their first 3 games? 2 of which we won and the 3rd lost after Nick Bosa got injured and our defense couldn't get any stops while we were playing with a banged up offense?

MacDonald is a terrific coach and he has a great defense in Seattle which will be a grind to go up against but let's stop crowning these teams until we see how everyone looks this season. We have a lot of changes on our team. I'm confident Kyle isn't sitting back just to roll out the same game plan against them this season.

It's hard not to crown teams when they've already got the crown. Can't pretend just bc it's a new year, recent SB wins don't count all of a sudden…

So why aren't you crowning I mean they already have 8 crowns! Somehow a SB win from 5 years ago vs 50+ years ago impacts this season? If you stop your agenda for a second and read slowly I'm sure you'd realize I'm talking about teams heading into this season. A season where nobody has a single win or a loss yet, let alone a SB win.
Originally posted by maltz88:
Originally posted by 49ersRing:
They've won 2 in a row. I don't see that as consistently winning, especially considering how banged up we were by those final two games.

My only point was in regard to referencing the 1st 3 games in a series refuting another team "figuring the other" out. More of a logic, or statistics point.

I don't personally believe Seattle has SF figured out, and don't put any one of SF, SEA, or LAR over the other.

Which was why I said what I did. Clearly Mike Macdonald had a terrific game plan against us in those last 2 games but we also didn't make it very hard for them either. Weak IOL. No real threat at the receiver position and a running game that was struggling to get chunk plays all year long.

Purdy's numbers look ugly in those 2 games but I felt like he battled his ass off in them. Just kept trying to find ways to get something going and there wasn't a lot of help in those games.

But if we look back to that week 1 game not sure how much we can really take from that one either. We had our share of injuries but Seattle also lost some guys within that game including Emanworri and obviously they were somewhat new to their scheme.

We can argue who had it worse in that game from ingame injuries but I would argue it was us given all the WR injuries in camp as we went into that game without Bourne, obviously no Aiyuk. Jennings missed most of training camp and ended up going out in that game in the 4th quarter I believe.

We had Pearsall, MVS, Russell Gage as our top 3 WRs. No Kittle. Oh and Purdy playing on a busted toe. As a matter of fact when you compare Purdy in that game prior to his injury to after. It was a tale of two halves basically. He barely missed before the injury. After the injury came the turnovers and some misses. Still all that and we got it done in the end.

Not exactly a heavy offensive output but when you have 2 interceptions thrown and 2 missed FGs...I wouldn't say it was a Macdonald figured them out situation.

It will be very interesting how they match up this year though. I'm certain Shanahan's priority this offseason will be to counter what Seattle has been doing on defense. The Rams pose their own risk but one thing Kyle has shown is his ability to find ways to get through their defense. Cuz even going back to their #1 D in 2020 in what was our big injury down year we managed to sweep them and move the ball on them(even with Nick Mullens and no Kittle or Aiyuk)
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