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Originally posted by tommyncal:
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Originally posted by Koldo:
Originally posted by genus49:
All the fire Kyle guys should watch this.


That's a guy who spent less than 10 games with the 49ers. This isn't Kittle, Juice or long time 49ers. And he's someone who played under Bill Belichick and won several SBs.

But sure the guys here know better.

Yeah, yeah, we know, EVERYBODY loves Kyle.

But no amount of love is going to make him win a Super Bowl, unless major changes are made.

Oh yah what's your plan for changes?

Also, what team that wins the SB doesn't make changes every year? Geez , . Like the Eagles bringing in Barkley or the Chiefs drafting Mahomes ? All changes.

Offseason hasn't even started yet and they act like changes aren't gonna be made!!! I got a feeling 49er fans are gonna be surprised who they pick up come March.
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Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:
Originally posted by jcs:
Jeff Stoutland is out in Philly...OLine coach since 2013. Common Kyle

That would be amazing. But I doubt it happens. Kyle likes Foerster.

What I want to know is why they let him go, or did he quit?
Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:
Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:
Originally posted by jcs:
Jeff Stoutland is out in Philly...OLine coach since 2013. Common Kyle

That would be amazing. But I doubt it happens. Kyle likes Foerster.

What I want to know is why they let him go, or did he quit?

Eagles News: It sounds like Nick Sirianni disrespected Jeff Stoutland | Bleeding Green Nation https://share.google/bovwGhsSGY9CdLivO
Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:
Eagles News: It sounds like Nick Sirianni disrespected Jeff Stoutland | Bleeding Green Nation https://share.google/bovwGhsSGY9CdLivO

Also seems like he's a bit high maintenence and was often opposed to the offense operating from under center.

Originally posted by Young2Owens:
Originally posted by 9moon:
Originally posted by genus49:
All the fire Kyle guys should watch this.


That's a guy who spent less than 10 games with the 49ers. This isn't Kittle, Juice or long time 49ers. And he's someone who played under Bill Belichick and won several SBs.

But sure the guys here know better.

Ain't matter if Shanny a good HC... that's not the point.. Just like Andy and Tony, they couldn't win one in Philly and TB.. It is what it is.. It's FATE, and Shanny won't win one here..

The question is, how long would it take before everyone sees that..

Fate…lol…do you also believe in the tooth fairy?

This idea that there's some mystical barrier unless Shanahan goes and coaches some other franchise that's currently preventing him from winning SBs is hilarious. Fresh starts for HCs only matter when relationships with key guys - the owner, GM, the QB - go sour. That hasn't happened here with Kyle. If anything he gave it some new energy this year. His owner just praised the hell out if him, his QB is 26 and only going into his 4th offseason as the unquestioned starter, and the vast majority of his players past and present heap praise upon him. Even if you are on the side that wants to replace Lynch as GM there's nothing to suggest he and Kyle aren't still communicating very well with each other. There's nothing aside from past trends for HCs where strife had become much more apparent to point to that says he's gotta go coach some other team to come out on top.
[ Edited by captveg on Feb 5, 2026 at 5:18 PM ]
Originally posted by genus49:
Originally posted by 49erKing:
Originally posted by FanInFlorida:
Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:
Originally posted by Silky:
Hmmm that's a good point. Never thought of that. Makes what the Pats did over 20 years all the more impressive

It is impressive, but there's also a flip side. It is harder for other organizations to build a team that can compensate for not having the GOAT coach and QB as the foundation of their success.

We've seen teams go on runs in the salary cap era that are longer/more sustained than in previous times (not counting the wooden rings and leather helmet days). For example, the Pats' streak of 8 straight championship game appearances and the Chiefs' 7.

Totally agree. If you have the best GM/HC/QB combo in the NFL, you'll have an advantage over the other 31 teams. If you also hit on a draft or two on defense, then you'll be dominant for an extended period of time. It's difficult for the other teams to catch up solely using the draft, so they would have to spend big in free agency to close the gap. If you limit how much they can spend, the top team will remain there for a long time (until another team hits on their QB and their draft).

If there was a salary cap in 94, we probably wouldn't have won the SB and the Cowboys probably would've won 3 straight. Not having a salary cap allows the teams behind the top dawg to close the gap.

There was a cap in 94. It was the first year it was implemented and we won the SB babiee.

Quick let's pretend 49ers didn't get hit for cheating the salary cap lol. Just because it started in 94 doesn't mean it played a factor at all in 94.

Reality is we won the SB with the bulk of the players we had before that year - brought in Deion, some others and then couldn't keep him to keep things going. You think we'd let Sanders walk if the cap wasn't a thing then?

I think people either forgot or weren't aware. We got busted for all kinds of under the table deals. People who love Eddie's drive (and I certainly did) forgot how that drive began to kill us. After 94, we tried to just buy championships instead of shrewd drafting. The JJ Stokes trade (gave away the pick that ended up being Ray Lewis), drafting if Jim Druckenmiller, buying aging vets for thay 97 run, letting Ricky Watters walk, etc.

Not to mention the front office trying to show they knew more than Walsh. It was a crazy time that set the table for the dark days once Eddie lost control of the franchise.
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Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:
Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:
Originally posted by jcs:
Jeff Stoutland is out in Philly...OLine coach since 2013. Common Kyle

That would be amazing. But I doubt it happens. Kyle likes Foerster.

What I want to know is why they let him go, or did he quit?

Articles say the OC wants his own staff.
Originally posted by Monsterniner:
Originally posted by LifelongNiner:
In the moment its horrible. But once yiu get outside of that, fans would trade that for their current reality if they aren't winning Super Bowls. Do you think the Bills prefer the Jim Kelly era, Josh Allen era, or see them as one in the same? Would Vikings fans prefer the Vikings under Bud Grant or what is happening now? People prefer the ultimate win, but if you can't/aren't getting that, then the best possible outcome is preferred. We are 31 years without a title but all 31 aren't equal and to think otherwise is silly. I saw Grant Cohn say the Steelers, Bills, aalnd Vikings have a higher standard than the 49ers. I'm sure some fans believe that even though those teams have no or limited playoff success to speak of. But hey, they can puff out their chest and say the team fired their coach or the fanbase groaned loud enough for the coach to resign.

You realize that this is coping at its best right?

Posting online to fire a top 5 coach who is apparently-

1. Only an offensive coordinator at best.
2. Can't win ANY big games.
3. Can't draft.

-is coping.
Originally posted by LifelongNiner:
Originally posted by genus49:
Originally posted by 49erKing:
Originally posted by FanInFlorida:
Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:
Originally posted by Silky:
Hmmm that's a good point. Never thought of that. Makes what the Pats did over 20 years all the more impressive

It is impressive, but there's also a flip side. It is harder for other organizations to build a team that can compensate for not having the GOAT coach and QB as the foundation of their success.

We've seen teams go on runs in the salary cap era that are longer/more sustained than in previous times (not counting the wooden rings and leather helmet days). For example, the Pats' streak of 8 straight championship game appearances and the Chiefs' 7.

Totally agree. If you have the best GM/HC/QB combo in the NFL, you'll have an advantage over the other 31 teams. If you also hit on a draft or two on defense, then you'll be dominant for an extended period of time. It's difficult for the other teams to catch up solely using the draft, so they would have to spend big in free agency to close the gap. If you limit how much they can spend, the top team will remain there for a long time (until another team hits on their QB and their draft).

If there was a salary cap in 94, we probably wouldn't have won the SB and the Cowboys probably would've won 3 straight. Not having a salary cap allows the teams behind the top dawg to close the gap.

There was a cap in 94. It was the first year it was implemented and we won the SB babiee.

Quick let's pretend 49ers didn't get hit for cheating the salary cap lol. Just because it started in 94 doesn't mean it played a factor at all in 94.

Reality is we won the SB with the bulk of the players we had before that year - brought in Deion, some others and then couldn't keep him to keep things going. You think we'd let Sanders walk if the cap wasn't a thing then?

I think people either forgot or weren't aware. We got busted for all kinds of under the table deals. People who love Eddie's drive (and I certainly did) forgot how that drive began to kill us. After 94, we tried to just buy championships instead of shrewd drafting. The JJ Stokes trade (gave away the pick that ended up being Ray Lewis), drafting if Jim Druckenmiller, buying aging vets for thay 97 run, letting Ricky Watters walk, etc.

Not to mention the front office trying to show they knew more than Walsh. It was a crazy time that set the table for the dark days once Eddie lost control of the franchise.

They did something fishy with Brent Jones contract I believe and got penalized. The JJ Stokes and Drunkenmiller traded were horrific. I thought Stokes was gonna be good though. Druckenmiller made no sense at all
Originally posted by DrEll:
Originally posted by Crown:
Originally posted by DrEll:
Originally posted by Crown:
I am so afraid of the Andy Reid effect.

KS goes to another team and goes on a trophy streak.

Whereas I'm excited about the possible trophy streak we could go on after Kyle leaves ala Philly.

You have never once produced a name that would take the niners on such a streak.

Sure I did.

Sean Payton
Mike McDonald
Ben Johnson

Been saying them for years…

I don't buy the Ben Johnson hype at all.
He will have great offenses but do not trust his game management at all.

Payton has lost his damn mind.

Mike could be a great. might win the big one this year. (How many years ago did you mention him? or was that just this year? )
[ Edited by Crown on Feb 5, 2026 at 7:27 PM ]
Originally posted by lamontb:
Originally posted by LifelongNiner:
Originally posted by genus49:
Originally posted by 49erKing:
Originally posted by FanInFlorida:
Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:
Originally posted by Silky:
Hmmm that's a good point. Never thought of that. Makes what the Pats did over 20 years all the more impressive

It is impressive, but there's also a flip side. It is harder for other organizations to build a team that can compensate for not having the GOAT coach and QB as the foundation of their success.

We've seen teams go on runs in the salary cap era that are longer/more sustained than in previous times (not counting the wooden rings and leather helmet days). For example, the Pats' streak of 8 straight championship game appearances and the Chiefs' 7.

Totally agree. If you have the best GM/HC/QB combo in the NFL, you'll have an advantage over the other 31 teams. If you also hit on a draft or two on defense, then you'll be dominant for an extended period of time. It's difficult for the other teams to catch up solely using the draft, so they would have to spend big in free agency to close the gap. If you limit how much they can spend, the top team will remain there for a long time (until another team hits on their QB and their draft).

If there was a salary cap in 94, we probably wouldn't have won the SB and the Cowboys probably would've won 3 straight. Not having a salary cap allows the teams behind the top dawg to close the gap.

There was a cap in 94. It was the first year it was implemented and we won the SB babiee.

Quick let's pretend 49ers didn't get hit for cheating the salary cap lol. Just because it started in 94 doesn't mean it played a factor at all in 94.

Reality is we won the SB with the bulk of the players we had before that year - brought in Deion, some others and then couldn't keep him to keep things going. You think we'd let Sanders walk if the cap wasn't a thing then?

I think people either forgot or weren't aware. We got busted for all kinds of under the table deals. People who love Eddie's drive (and I certainly did) forgot how that drive began to kill us. After 94, we tried to just buy championships instead of shrewd drafting. The JJ Stokes trade (gave away the pick that ended up being Ray Lewis), drafting if Jim Druckenmiller, buying aging vets for thay 97 run, letting Ricky Watters walk, etc.

Not to mention the front office trying to show they knew more than Walsh. It was a crazy time that set the table for the dark days once Eddie lost control of the franchise.

They did something fishy with Brent Jones contract I believe and got penalized. The JJ Stokes and Drunkenmiller traded were horrific. I thought Stokes was gonna be good though. Druckenmiller made no sense at all

Stokes at least was a contributing player for a handful of years. Not worth a 1st round pick at all, but he didn't simply disappear like Druckenmiller. Never forget that it took Steve Young one practice to observe Druckenmiller and simply know the guy was never gonna make it in the NFL. That should just not happen with 1st round picks.
[ Edited by captveg on Feb 5, 2026 at 8:37 PM ]
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:
Eagles News: It sounds like Nick Sirianni disrespected Jeff Stoutland | Bleeding Green Nation https://share.google/bovwGhsSGY9CdLivO

Also seems like he's a bit high maintenence and was often opposed to the offense operating from under center.


I'd still give him a shot if he was interested. That being said I don't think Kyle will make the move due to as some of you guys already mentioned, Kyle and Foerster being buddies and they like one another.
Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:

It's not a "best coaching job" award, usually. It's more of a "best new coach turning a team around in their first season with the team" award.

Vrabel may break this streak, but the last time the coach of the year won the Super Bowl was Belichick in 2003. If this award truly went to the best coaching job that shouldn't be the case.
[ Edited by captveg on Feb 5, 2026 at 9:13 PM ]
Originally posted by captveg:
Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:

It's not a "best coaching job" award, usually. It's more of a "best new coach turning a team around in their first season with the team" award.

Vrabel may break this streak, but the last time the coach of the year won the Super Bowl was Belichick in 2003.


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