49ers Head Coach Kyle Shanahan Thread

The concern was whether he could get the qb. I don't think anyone doubted that with it we'd be fine.

It's no accident that this placed stopped being so sour once we landed Jimmy.

Originally posted by niners94:
Great coaching with a great QB will win most games. Got to have both.

and the logic was that Shanny was a bad coach and was all his fault. despite evidence pointing to him otherwise resulting in tremendous success on a good team like the Falcons. it's like a simple math problem that some fans couldn't seem to grasp.

Take a HC that lead the #1 offense in the league, and take away everything and add a depleted expansion team with no QB, at least on the level of matt ryan in his first year with San Fran; results were always gonna be poor until somebody like JG came in, guys.

Originally posted by defenderDX:

Originally posted by cciowa:

Originally posted by defenderDX:
there were never any legit concerns about Shanahan. Fans with common sense knew the situation he entered was different than Atlanta and would take time. We all knew what Shanahan's offense was capable of.

that is your opinion. please get off your high horse. just because some of us had what we considered to be legit concerns

that's not an opinion. that's a fact. why do you ignore his track record and history? Shanahan lead the #1 ranked offense in the NFL a year before San Francisco. He joines San Francisco. Offense is almost last. That's his offenses fault? like it's common sense. didn't have Matt Ryan for his system. please explain these 'legit' concerns to me. Because the only legit concerns at one point was the QB position, and a severe lack of talent. NOT Shanahan.

The only reason for some people's "legitimate concerns" was their inability to see what was fairly evident to anyone who was paying attention. The offensive schemes were working, they just weren't being executed. That was pretty obvious. Hoyer wasn't getting it done, Beathard did a little better but doesn't have the skill set that Garoppollo does. What we have seen the past three weeks is a coach/QB match-up that has the potential to carry this franchise for the next 6 years. I am sure there will still be bumps along the road but I can't say that I am in any way displeased with the way this season has worked out. Seems to me that it has evolved just about as well as it could have under the circumstances but it has clearly been put into overdrive by the acquisition of Jimmy G. which no one here probably anticipated.

The team will have had a whole season to acclimate themselves to the new schemes under game conditions. Coaches will have had an opportunity to fully assess a roster that had been severely depleted by years of bad drafts and determine where they need to upgrade. They will have been able to lay the foundation that will hopefully carry this franchise back to relevance while playing out a season where most people had exactly zero expectations for them. Winning a couple of more games might have been nice early in the season but that wouldn't really have changed anything in regard to what this season was about, which was learning and preparing to hit the ground running next year. What they have accomplished in the last few games with Garoppollo under center is much more important to how the team moves forward then getting a few more wins under Hoyer would have been because EVERYBODY knew that Hoyer wasn't going to be the guy. Now it looks like they have the guy so the wins actually mean something, which I don't think would have been the case earlier in the year. Go Niners!!

Originally posted by defenderDX:

Originally posted by cciowa:

Originally posted by defenderDX:
there were never any legit concerns about Shanahan. Fans with common sense knew the situation he entered was different than Atlanta and would take time. We all knew what Shanahan's offense was capable of.

that is your opinion. please get off your high horse. just because some of us had what we considered to be legit concerns

that's not an opinion. that's a fact. why do you ignore his track record and history? Shanahan lead the #1 ranked offense in the NFL a year before San Francisco. He joines San Francisco. Offense is almost last. That's his offenses fault? like it's common sense. didn't have Matt Ryan for his system. please explain these 'legit' concerns to me. Because the only legit concerns at one point was the QB position, and a severe lack of talent. NOT Shanahan.

We got us a great coach, and to top it off, this new QB guy picks up Kyle's offense in *one month* vs Matty Ice - who took a whole year. Then apparently regressed when Kyle left for the HC job here.

One of CC's concerns was Kyle's run game (at least it was also my concern) considering they couldn't run out the clock in the super bowl and New England stuffed all their runs. That became apparent again in the Titan's game where Kyle's run offense was pedestrian. I think the run game needs a Joe Williams kind of back, and more Trent/Staley type of offensive linemen. More Quick/Agile than Strong and Big (not saying Trent is small) but what I'm saying is that if we had some interior O-linemen that had a quicker get-off-and-go and more quickness to really get a good position on the D line when zone blocking for the run, that would be fantastic. Right now the current interior O Linemen are more suited to power blocking than zone blocking. Hyde is more suited to straight ahead runs than lateral outside zone runs. It's almost like Kyle can't call half the run plays he has because he doesn't have the personnel to run it well.

All the run problems, of course, are masked by the play of our Future Franchise QB, but it's not gone away. It's still there.

Originally posted by D0PEMAN:

Originally posted by Young2Rice:

Three wins in a row. Thats what I call improvement.

I feel like we're experiencing two seasons in one. Pre-Jimmy seems like so long ago lol

At one point, there was legit concern we might go 0-16

wheres that guy who said mcdaniels is a better hc and we shoulda drafted kizer? Lol

Originally posted by cciowa:

Originally posted by defenderDX:
there were never any legit concerns about Shanahan. Fans with common sense knew the situation he entered was different than Atlanta and would take time. We all knew what Shanahan's offense was capable of.

that is your opinion. please get off your high horse. just because some of us had what we considered to be legit concerns

Easy, there. Don't fall off.

Originally posted by socalniner:

Originally posted by D0PEMAN:

Originally posted by Young2Rice:

Three wins in a row. Thats what I call improvement.

I feel like we're experiencing two seasons in one. Pre-Jimmy seems like so long ago lol

At one point, there was legit concern we might go 0-16

Same here man. That would be so sad.

Originally posted by defenderDX:

Originally posted by cciowa:

Originally posted by defenderDX:

haha

lol

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good job of you for exuding patience and exhibiting a common sense of understanding the situation that Shanahan came into. Good fan.

simple. wrong.

It's amazing what a QB can do to a team that apparently has a 'crappy offense'. it's almost as if the lack of a decent QB was the reason, not the HC or play-calling. Lol. It's amazing how fans couldn't see the difference in situations between Shanny and McVay in that Rams game. And we scored almost 40 points even still. It's like pessimistic fans are incapable of 0 foresight and perspective.

it's amazing to think that when Shanahan has a good QB, like in Atlanta, his offense thrives.

but when he doesn't have a competent QB, his offense is trash.

lol, some fans.

there are still major concerns with this team and just because jimmy has arrived and has made alot of things better., does not mean we are over some hump. the legit concerns some have are still there..i understand it makes you feel good and giddy and you must have alot of time on your hands to rehash posts which at the time were legit concerns fans had.

there were never any legit concerns about Shanahan. Fans with common sense knew the situation he entered was different than Atlanta and would take time. We all knew what Shanahan's offense was capable of.

Legit concerns? When some people who shall remain nameless would spend 20 pages spewing the same lines over and over about how our coach/gm didn't fix all our problems in one year. As well as saying because they didn't we chose the wrong guys and every loss only served to prove the point. Now that the arrow is up, those who said, "it'll take competent players first" are now being proven right.

Don't get butt hurt when we say, I told you so....you know who you are

Feels like its been forever since we saw kyle throw the football down in frustration after a crappy brian hoyer throw to the sideline

Originally posted by jonnydel:

Originally posted by defenderDX:

Originally posted by cciowa:

Originally posted by defenderDX:
haha

lol

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good job of you for exuding patience and exhibiting a common sense of understanding the situation that Shanahan came into. Good fan.

simple. wrong.

It's amazing what a QB can do to a team that apparently has a 'crappy offense'. it's almost as if the lack of a decent QB was the reason, not the HC or play-calling. Lol. It's amazing how fans couldn't see the difference in situations between Shanny and McVay in that Rams game. And we scored almost 40 points even still. It's like pessimistic fans are incapable of 0 foresight and perspective.

it's amazing to think that when Shanahan has a good QB, like in Atlanta, his offense thrives.

but when he doesn't have a competent QB, his offense is trash.

lol, some fans.

there are still major concerns with this team and just because jimmy has arrived and has made alot of things better., does not mean we are over some hump. the legit concerns some have are still there..i understand it makes you feel good and giddy and you must have alot of time on your hands to rehash posts which at the time were legit concerns fans had.

there were never any legit concerns about Shanahan. Fans with common sense knew the situation he entered was different than Atlanta and would take time. We all knew what Shanahan's offense was capable of.

Legit concerns? When some people who shall remain nameless would spend 20 pages spewing the same lines over and over about how our coach/gm didn't fix all our problems in one year. As well as saying because they didn't we chose the wrong guys and every loss only served to prove the point. Now that the arrow is up, those who said, "it'll take competent players first" are now being proven right.

Don't get butt hurt when we say, I told you so....you know who you are

exactly. thank you.

"we were told"

Lovin me some Garoppolo. Man, he's got the quick mind to see the field, process it properly, and do the smart thing. And what a quick learner of a very complex offense.

But let's give Kyle Shanahan credit too.

First off, Belichick didn't toss Jimmy to the Niners, other than the fact we are an NFC team. He tossed him to Kyle. Without Kyle, we don't have Jimmy. Cleveland doesn't have him.

Secondly, Kyle and his team are the ones coaching him up so well in so short a time.

Thirdly, Kyle schemes people open better than anyone. Jimmy has had open targets.

Fourthly, Kyle knows what type of receiver it takes to get separation, can get serviceable ones on the cheap, and coaches them up. They are all new to the team.

And lastly, Kyle sets up defenses better than anyone. When we need a late game winning drive, he gets the defense looking for what he's already shown them, while he gets a guy running free.

And all of this is going to lock Garoppolo right here for a very long time.

Lovin me some Kyle too.

I love you coach!

That black jacket he had on during the TEN game was sicc. Looked kind of like an old school Starter jacket.

Originally posted by thl408:

That black jacket he had on during the TEN game was sicc. Looked kind of like an old school Starter jacket.

You didn't like Nolan's suit?